Mark Few

JesusCal91

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He'll never leave the WCC for a power conf. He's figured out he can job the polls by beating up cupcakes while the rest have to face ranked conf opponents. This allows Zags to frog hop the rankings and get over seeded which almost assures S16's and E8's.

What a stupid conspiracy. They won’t leave the wcc for a power conference because they don’t play football so no one will have them in. They’re not gonna join the big east when their closest road game is at creighton in Omaha Nebraska. Remember they’re a tiny private school with a small budget and have other sports to consider besides hoops
 

KingOfBBN

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Few is one of the best in the business.

I’m not sure how old you are, but Gonzaga was a joke until he got there.

He will have them in the hunt again next season also.

Few wasn’t even the head coach when Gonzaga got put on the map by Dan Monson. It was he who led them to the first Elite Eight in 1999. But then took the Minnesota job and his assistant Few took over. But it wasn’t Few that put them on the map.
 
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IMO he's not enough of a micro-manager. Team often undisciplined on offense, not taking the shots it should.

He just let it happen tonite.

He has had the Zags in the tourney every year he's been there.
 

Blueaz

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They were the only team to beat Duke this season at full strength. Let me remind you, Duke beat us by 34 and it could have been 50.
Kev... u know I love you, man... but if I hear one more poster bring up that beat down again in a condescending way ...I may go all kev69 on you. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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TortElvisII

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My interest is how the family got the name Few. It is unexplained on site I looked it up. I assume his ancestors either had a small family or clan in England around 1096.
 
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Plus it would help few recruiting immensely if they could join the mountain west or pac 12 I’m sure he wouldn’t turn it down if it was offered but it won’t be
 

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Few is exactly where he wants to be. He loves being a coach, but it doesn’t consume him. At Gonzaga, he’ll keep winning his conference, make nice second weekend runs in March, and MAYBE eventually win a title. If not, no worries. The fanbase loves him, the media loves him. Compared to most coaches, he has very little pressure. Compared to all other mid majors, he has high level name recognition for recruiting. He is in his perfect situation. Sure, he is greatly disappointed tonight, but he’ll be fly fishing soon.
 

barryn2000

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What a stupid conspiracy. They won’t leave the wcc for a power conference because they don’t play football so no one will have them in. They’re not gonna join the big east when their closest road game is at creighton in Omaha Nebraska. Remember they’re a tiny private school with a small budget and have other sports to consider besides hoops

Somebody's stupid [winking]

I wasn't talking about Zags leaving the WCC, was talking about Few leaving.
 
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JesusCal91

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Somebody's stupid [winking]

I wasn't talking about Zags leaving the WCC, was talking about Few leaving.

I see. I still don’t think he’s trying to game the system. He built the program from nothing and he’s happy there. It’s not really his problem that the rest of the conference hasn’t gotten better
 

Jkwo_rivals113955

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He's a good coach . Never know how good because he's gonna stay in that **** conference and win 26-30 games every year , and appear dominate , Would love to see him decide to challenge his own self and come east .
This is what I think.

It's hard to tell where someone is based on long-term mid major performance on the West coast, where he mostly plays a different set of teams than the powers. Could he be up at the top elite level, like Cal/Stevens? Possibly, but it seems unlikely. Or is he more of a Marshall/Mack level guy? Hard to say with certainty if he doesn't move elsewhere. He's clearly not a Shaka.


You can't really penalize him for a bunch of E8s from that school, but there is still another gear he hasn't reached there for whatever reason.
 
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TheDude73

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The slobbering by anyone over Few and Gonzaga just makes me laugh. Yeah, he's gotten them to an Elite 8 (lost) and a championship game (once), but aside from a bunch of round of 32 and S16s, that's all he's done since he's been there for what seems like 50 years (actually 20). Yet people talk about how awesome he is.

You know who's awesome? Calipari. Took UMASS from nothing to something within a few years. Took Memphis from nothing to something within a very few years. Pulled UK out of the BCG crapper and had us in the Elite 8 in his first year, and is on the brink of having us in the Final Four 5 times in 10 years. And he's done it in a Power 5 conference.

If Few is so damned awesome, why did it take him so long to get to the upper echelon of college hoops (took him 15 years to get to the Elite 8 or better)? He's a coach who averages maybe a Sweet 16 or even round of 32, with his biggest success coming the past 4 years.

So is he a good coach? Yes, he's decent. But he's far from awesome.
 

barryn2000

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The slobbering by anyone over Few and Gonzaga just makes me laugh. Yeah, he's gotten them to an Elite 8 (lost) and a championship game (once), but aside from a bunch of round of 32 and S16s, that's all he's done since he's been there for what seems like 50 years (actually 20). Yet people talk about how awesome he is.

You know who's awesome? Calipari. Took UMASS from nothing to something within a few years. Took Memphis from nothing to something within a very few years. Pulled UK out of the BCG crapper and had us in the Elite 8 in his first year, and is on the brink of having us in the Final Four 5 times in 10 years. And he's done it in a Power 5 conference.

If Few is so damned awesome, why did it take him so long to get to the upper echelon of college hoops (took him 15 years to get to the Elite 8 or better)? He's a coach who averages maybe a Sweet 16 or even round of 32, with his biggest success coming the past 4 years.

So is he a good coach? Yes, he's decent. But he's far from awesome.

And people want him if Cal leaves. No thank you, I want a coach that relishes playing a tough schedule and preparing the team for a tough run at a NC.
 
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The slobbering by anyone over Few and Gonzaga just makes me laugh. Yeah, he's gotten them to an Elite 8 (lost) and a championship game (once), but aside from a bunch of round of 32 and S16s, that's all he's done since he's been there for what seems like 50 years (actually 20). Yet people talk about how awesome he is.

You know who's awesome? Calipari. Took UMASS from nothing to something within a few years. Took Memphis from nothing to something within a very few years. Pulled UK out of the BCG crapper and had us in the Elite 8 in his first year, and is on the brink of having us in the Final Four 5 times in 10 years. And he's done it in a Power 5 conference.

If Few is so damned awesome, why did it take him so long to get to the upper echelon of college hoops (took him 15 years to get to the Elite 8 or better)? He's a coach who averages maybe a Sweet 16 or even round of 32, with his biggest success coming the past 4 years.

So is he a good coach? Yes, he's decent. But he's far from awesome.

Well you definitely smoke as much marijuana as the dude in that movie I’ll give you that
 

Xception

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Few turned a nobody into somebody but he’s also done that by virtue of beating a whole bunch of nobodies.
 

TheDude73

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And people want him if Cal leaves. No thank you, I want a coach that relishes playing a tough schedule and preparing the team for a tough run at a NC.
Agree. Not unless he goes somewhere tougher (conference-wise) and proves he can win, but even then, I have a hard time seeing our Cats without Calipari - the day he hangs it up will be a dark day for me, and I simply don't know of anyone that can take his place.
 
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TheDude73

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Few turned a nobody into somebody but he’s also done that by virtue of beating a whole bunch of nobodies.
Actually, he didn't - someone above said he took over for the guy (Monson?) that turned them into somebody. And for 15 years he was a first or second weekend at best coach (S16 was his ceiling until 2015).
 
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Agree. Not unless he goes somewhere tougher (conference-wise) and proves he can win, but even then, I have a hard time seeing our Cats without Calipari - the day he hangs it up will be a dark day for me, and I simply don't know of anyone that can take his place.

You’re talking about a top 5 job in sports and probably the best in college sports. When the time comes they’ll have the pick of whoever they want and there’s gonna be great coaches who are interested
 

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He's a product of a ****** conference if you ask me .. I would like to see him at a big time school just to see what he can really do ..
And yet no other coach of any other mid major team has been able to come close to accomplishing what he has accomplished. Why is that? Seriously, that wasn’t a rhetorical question; why has no other coach of a mid major program been able to replicate what Few has done if it’s so “easy”? Throughout his career he has turned on the head coaching gig at Indiana, Oregon and UCLA. He’s not going anywhere. But he does really need your validation so he will try harder to please you.
 

Xception

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Actually, he didn't - someone above said he took over for the guy (Monson?) that turned them into somebody. And for 15 years he was a first or second weekend at best coach (S16 was his ceiling until 2015).
Yea I forgot about the first guy, maybe because Few has been there so long. But he has continued to elevate Gonzaga from what they originally were.
 
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revcort

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He'll never leave the WCC for a power conf. He's figured out he can job the polls by beating up cupcakes while the rest have to face ranked conf opponents. This allows Zags to frog hop the rankings and get over seeded which almost assures S16's and E8's.
This is absolutely true. The national media always fall for it. I think this season was somewhat an exception to the rule, but this is the game Few plays, and he knows it works. The national media and the selection committee won't downplay Gonzaga's accomplishments because the "little guy" is hard to put down.

And to the guy saying people here are afraid of Gonzaga, that's not even close to right. I think what Few has done there is nothing short of amazing. He has made a powerhouse out of a pin cushion. He's made a perennial power out of a WCC team and the media and everyone else buys it every season.

Play some token P5 teams early on, when you've got juniors and seniors coming back and they're breaking in freshmen and sophomores, then go beat up your cupcakes racking up a pile of wins and everyone else is playing tough conference foes and taking some hard losses. You move up the rankings and ratings and others fall. You get a 1 seed and guarantee yourself an Elite 8 by beating 1 decent team since the beginning of December. It's genius. Why go anywhere?
 

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This is absolutely true. The national media always fall for it. I think this season was somewhat an exception to the rule, but this is the game Few plays, and he knows it works. The national media and the selection committee won't downplay Gonzaga's accomplishments because the "little guy" is hard to put down.

And to the guy saying people here are afraid of Gonzaga, that's not even close to right. I think what Few has done there is nothing short of amazing. He has made a powerhouse out of a pin cushion. He's made a perennial power out of a WCC team and the media and everyone else buys it every season.

Play some token P5 teams early on, when you've got juniors and seniors coming back and they're breaking in freshmen and sophomores, then go beat up your cupcakes racking up a pile of wins and everyone else is playing tough conference foes and taking some hard losses. You move up the rankings and ratings and others fall. You get a 1 seed and guarantee yourself an Elite 8 by beating 1 decent team since the beginning of December. It's genius. Why go anywhere?

So why doesn’t everyone at a small school do what he does if it’s so simple
 

barryn2000

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This is absolutely true. The national media always fall for it. I think this season was somewhat an exception to the rule, but this is the game Few plays, and he knows it works. The national media and the selection committee won't downplay Gonzaga's accomplishments because the "little guy" is hard to put down.

And to the guy saying people here are afraid of Gonzaga, that's not even close to right. I think what Few has done there is nothing short of amazing. He has made a powerhouse out of a pin cushion. He's made a perennial power out of a WCC team and the media and everyone else buys it every season.

Play some token P5 teams early on, when you've got juniors and seniors coming back and they're breaking in freshmen and sophomores, then go beat up your cupcakes racking up a pile of wins and everyone else is playing tough conference foes and taking some hard losses. You move up the rankings and ratings and others fall. You get a 1 seed and guarantee yourself an Elite 8 by beating 1 decent team since the beginning of December. It's genius. Why go anywhere?

Thank you, you explained it better than I did.

Pick any so-so team in a power conf and Few as coach and he'll struggle competing for star recruits, won't get pre-season ranking love and would face several conf perennial powerhouse's multiple times. He'd lose 5-10 every season and get his 3-7 seed every year with an occasional 1 or 2.

That might turn him into the next Cal but I don't see him giving up a great gig to be 3rd or 4th in his conf every year.
 

kl40504_rivals

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what is your opinion of Mark Few? I always thought he was one step away from a coaching job at a big time university. But he seems to not be able to coach effectively when it matters.
Really. Has won at all levels. Been to a final four. Several Elite eights. I guess you think if a coach can't win the NCAA title they can't coach. Name 10 coaches that have more success than him in college.
 

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And yet no other coach of any other mid major team has been able to come close to accomplishing what he has accomplished. Why is that? Seriously, that wasn’t a rhetorical question; why has no other coach of a mid major program been able to replicate what Few has done if it’s so “easy”? Throughout his career he has turned on the head coaching gig at Indiana, Oregon and UCLA. He’s not going anywhere. But he does really need your validation so he will try harder to please you.
I couldn't give 2 ***** myself.. But he'll never win a title where he's at.. Same ol same ol every year.. Get a top seed and squander it..
 

3kidsandme

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And yet no other coach of any other mid major team has been able to come close to accomplishing what he has accomplished. Why is that? Seriously, that wasn’t a rhetorical question; why has no other coach of a mid major program been able to replicate what Few has done if it’s so “easy”? Throughout his career he has turned on the head coaching gig at Indiana, Oregon and UCLA. He’s not going anywhere. But he does really need your validation so he will try harder to please you.
99 percent of midmajor coaches leave for better jobs. What Few has done is terrific but it gets old watching them get high seeds without playing a good schedule. You would think he could accidentally make 3 or 4 final 4s in 20 years with the talent he brings in and keeps multiple years.
 

TheDude73

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Few will probably be offered the UCLA job. He'll turn it down.
If Arizona dumps Miller due to the Adidas fiasco, that might be a job Few would seriously consider. If he's going to go big conference, a good way to do it is to take a job in the weakest of them all, the Pac 12, to break himself in and appear to prove all the doubters wrong (we'd still be saying "yeah, but you moved to the freaking Pac 12!).
 

TheDude73

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Really. Has won at all levels. Been to a final four. Several Elite eights. I guess you think if a coach can't win the NCAA title they can't coach. Name 10 coaches that have more success than him in college.
In 20 full seasons at Gonzaga, Few has been to two E8s and one FF (runner up) - all of those coming in the past 5 years. So either it took him 15 years to learn how to coach, or all the media hype of Gonzaga has recruits looking there more than they ever did before.

The top echelon of head coaches that have taken over a program have done so with the program on the ropes or way down historically, and nearly within a couple to three years had them right back in the thick of championship contention (took Calipari just his first year at UK to get us to an E8). Few inherited a program he already worked for that had just been to an Elite 8, then proceeded to keep them afloat with a string of NCAA-T appearances, complete with consistent first or second weekend bow outs. And many of those years he's still lost games to some of the pansies in the WCC, which if he were so freaking amazing, I'd expect him to be blasting the WCC out of their pants with strings of undefeated seasons.

It's good to see others here believe the same that I do - Gonzaga's recent 5 year success in tourney advancement has more to do with their sudden high seeding than it does their coach or their team. When they were seeded properly in the years prior, they faced the big boys more often, and of course got sent home on a regular basis. What's different the past 5 years? It's not like Few has just figured it out after 15 years of coaching. Is he getting better recruits thanks to the media attention? Likely. But the only other "change" has been the higher seeding and easy paths (2017 was one of the lowest seeded paths for any team in NCAA-T history).