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Gromcat_rivals

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He is not more qualified than Cal was, not even freaking close. That is a joke.

Again, Beard had one good tournament run, that's it.

Is an elite 8 a good run? Is making it to an overtime away from a title a good run? Is doing these things at Texas Tech just a woopsies?

And a side for Gonzo, you’ve already said you like him for the Kansas job. Stop liking post that claim he’s had “ 1 good run” lol.
 

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One more comment on these Beard and BCG comps —

BCG has never once as a coach taken a team past the Sweet 16. That’s as far as he’s gotten and he’s done it once.

Beard has taken his team further than BCG ever did in 2 of the last 3 tournaments. With a National Runner-Up on his resume.

They’re not the same.

BUT THEYRE WHITE AND THEY COACHED IN TEXAS!!!
 

STL_Cat

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Is an elite 8 a good run? Is making it to an overtime away from a title a good run? Is doing these things at Texas Tech just a woopsies?

And a side for Gonzo, you’ve already said you like him for the Kansas job. Stop liking post that claim he’s had “ 1 good run” lol.
The Cal first guys always say an Elite Eight is a good run. It’s hard to know anymore.
 

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The Cal first guys always say an Elite Eight is a good run. It’s hard to know anymore.

I already know lol. One day an elite 8 is a standard goal, the next day Beards elite 8 at Texas Tech isn’t even worth mentioning.

One day Cal losing 16 games at Kentucky is who cares he’s great, the next day Beard losing 7 to an overtime title game is whatever.

One day longtime posters claim they do not want Beard at Kansas, the next day they’re liking post saying he’s only had 1 good season.

Rafters. It’s why we come here.
 

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If Cal quit today, we could do worse than Beard.



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A lot of college basketball writers love Chris Beard, and rightfully so, I think he's a tremendous coach.




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I don’t know, sounds to me like Gonzo has a man crush.
 

BigBlueChronic

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Dude don’t be so impossible to have a conversation with. You said he won the championship with Pitino’s runner up team. That’s nonsense because Pitino’s runner up team had Anthony Epps and more importantly, Ron Mercer. I wouldn’t argue with you if you said Tubby won with Pitino’s players. That’s true. But he did NOT win it with Pitino’s runner up team. It was a much different team.
It was literally Pitino's runner-up team. The top 8 or 9 players were all Pitino guys. No matter how you need to spin to for yourself, it all comes out to being Pitino’s runner-up team. And if Tubby is the best comparative to Chris Beard's possibke tenure here, again, I'll pass.
 

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It was literally Pitino's runner-up team. The top 8 or 9 players were all Pitino guys. No matter how you need to spin to for yourself, it all comes out to being Pitino’s runner-up team. And if Tubby is the best comparative to Chris Beard's possibke tenure here, again, I'll pass.

Umm, it’s not.

Chris Beard has been to an elite 8 and national title game (overtime) at TT.

If he can do that at Tech what the hell could he do with UK?

Tubby had never coached past a sweet 16 before UK.
 

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It was literally Pitino's runner-up team. The top 8 or 9 players were all Pitino guys. No matter how you need to spin to for yourself, it all comes out to being Pitino’s runner-up team. And if Tubby is the best comparative to Chris Beard's possibke tenure here, again, I'll pass.
It was a group of guys that were on the runner up team. It was not the runner up team. The runner up team had Ron Mercer. I think maybe I mentioned that earlier.
 

HagginHall1999

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Is an elite 8 a good run? Is making it to an overtime away from a title a good run? Is doing these things at Texas Tech just a woopsies?

And a side for Gonzo, you’ve already said you like him for the Kansas job. Stop liking post that claim he’s had “ 1 good run” lol.

Sure EE is good. So my bad, he had 2 good runs.

When did I say they are woopsies? Again, I just want to see what he can do at Texas before I anoint him "the next old guard BA."

You seem to think that because he was good at one school he will be better at another. It doesn't always work out that way.

I just think you are way more concerned about being able to say "I told you so" than seeing how things play out.

If he is good at Texas and he ends up at UK or another big school and is the next old guard BA, so be it. I haven't said he will or won't, but I'm also not making outlandish claims about him that aren't tied to reality.
 
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BigBlueChronic

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Umm, it’s not.

Chris Beard has been to an elite 8 and national title game (overtime) at TT.

If he can do that at Tech what the hell could he do with UK?

Tubby had never coached past a sweet 16 before UK.
Um, yes it is.

Beard also has 4 double digit losing seasons in 5 years at tech. He is barely. 500 in the big 12. He routinely gets owned by KU and chokes in big games.

He would run UK into the ground. Just give him 2 or 3 seasons at Texas to prove me correct.

Tubby never should have been hired here either.
 

BigBlueChronic

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It was a group of guys that were on the runner up team. It was not the runner up team. The runner up team had Ron Mercer. I think maybe I mentioned that earlier.
It was the runner-up team. Again, not matter how you spin it, it was Pitino's runner-up team. That is Smith's claim to fame. And you all keep comparing him with Beard like it's a positive.
 

STL_Cat

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You seem to think that because he was good at one school he will be better at another. It doesn't always work out that way.
Well, that is pretty much the standard minus BCG.

Pitino, Tubby, and Cal have all been better at Kentucky than anywhere else. That’s one reason why people come here.
 
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I think it’s also important to note that the primary players for the EE and the NC game run were basically the same. I say that to say he may have caught lightning in a bottle with Culver, Moretti, etc. Like I said I think k he’s a good coach. It remains to be seen if he’s elite.
 

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Red flags.

Only poster I’ve ever used the ignore feature on. Haven’t regretted it.

I mean, if I was wrong as often as yourself, I’d probably use that feature too! Prevents further embarrassment for ya, I get it.
 

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He won 67% at TT. He went to a FF. I am sure he is a good coach. He isn't as qualified as Cal was when he was hired here.

Cal had over 400 wins and 2FF before he came to UK. He also had consistent success.

This just isn’t true.

Cals reputation was neutered after Umass.

Calipari has admitted to begging programs to offer him jobs and Claims Larry Brown had to do some serious pitching to Memphis to get them to agree. This has come from Calipari himself.

At Memphis he was on the hot seat after a while, then it cooled down later in the tenure. I was at the University of Memphis during Cals time there, you’re simply wrong. Memphis was ready to throw him out after his last NIT bid.

Cal made a smart move in forming some late relationships which changed his recruiting forever. This was not the case during most of his career. And he didn’t really qualify for the UK job until all of the good teams in the conference USA bailed out.

Cal has been a hot / cold guy for most of his record before UK, and mostly warm - cold. He’s missed lots and lots of tournaments and had trouble climbing the coaching latter.

I’m okay if someone thinks Cal was more qualified than Beard, but I think it’s definitely arguable. Cal had more baggage than any coach we’ve ever hired. Beard has proven he’s close to or an elite recruiter, he’s proven he can win big with little resources, and never had the mention of scandal. So you don’t have to agree, pick one or their other, or go all in Beard, but it is arguable that he’s as qualified for UK as Cal was in 2008.
 
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For sure, TTU isn't a basketball hot spot. But it's still in a power conference, in a highly populated state, with a top 100 ranking in endowment. It's not some mid-major school. Yet, some here are acting like TTU was completely holding him back. What he's done so far at TTU is pretty impressive, but it's not the same as what guys like Smart, Stevens and Marshall had to do to overcome the odds. I don't think any of those schools had it's own lazy river, either.


respectfully, you simply do not understand college basketball enough. TT is a horrible program to win at. Horrible.

It’s one of the worst p5 programs in the country for basketball. Big names have gone there to die, and most of their history is a black spot.

For him to accomplish an elite 8 and an overtime from a NATIONAL TITLE at Tech is incredible.

This is why Texas hired him and why every analyst you’d find completely disagrees with you.
 
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