Marcus Carr commits to Texas

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Beard at UK would not be deadly. 😂 We lose double digit games just like he’s done 4 out of the past 5 years and only has one final four under his belt as well. I just can’t comprehend the thought process of guys on here thinking he’s even a good coach. He’s decent at best.

He’s lost 14, 10, 7, 13 and 11 losses in the past 5 years, he’s lucky to have a job, period.
I agree and I imagine he wouldn’t take to kindly being asked if that was UK standard after multiple double digit loss seasons
 
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Yardeth

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I guess Devin Askew already recruited over before season even
Cals final four at Umass was actually stripped to scandal. Beard hasn’t had any scandals that I’m aware of. And I’m not even talking about 30 years ago, so I don’t know why you went to Umass. Kind of shows you need to do some incredible brain twisting to bolster Cal.

Cal just finished 9-16 and has lost his edge at UK. He’s not competing that well in conference and has been beaten by most rivals more than holding serve.

Beard in that same time frame hasn’t missed any tournaments, was an overtime away from a title, and did all of this at a doormat program. Cal is at the top program. It matters.

For you to believe Calipari has been better than Beard of late shows total confirmation bias on your part. For Beard to do that at TT and Cal to do what he’s done of late at UK is nothing short of wtf.
Thanks fir posting Mrs. Beard
 
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Are you not a UK fan? Or just a Cal hater?? You always sound so miserable.

Im a UK fan and Cal supporter, but definitely a UK fan first. I also don’t subscribe to the talking points by the Cal first fans that if you don’t enjoy the ride of 9-16, blowouts to Duke, losses to Kansas and Tennessee, then You’re a miserable person.

I’m looking forward to see if Cal is the guy for the future but always open to the idea he’s not. And if he’s not, Bears is one of the first calls that should be made at this point.
 

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When did I compare him to Billy G?

TTU was 18-13, and .500 in conference play, before Covid shut down their season. They absolutely needed to do work to make the tournament. Regardless, it was still a bad season for them. Then he fails to meet expectations again last year.

Hes had one great year, maybe he'll do it again this year, but we need to actually see it.

There isn’t one projection that didn’t have TT in the tournament that I can find. He was not going to miss the tournament and has been better than Cal of late. Considering the program differences, it proves he’s legit and that’s exactly why Texas hired him.

Again if some of you can’t get this it’s not my fault.
 
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Idk Beard is great at getting lesser recruited players to come together and play above their heads. Getting elite talent to play like a team and mesh is a different beast. I mean it sounds easier but time has proven it's not always that simple.
We will have to see. He got his highest-rated recruit last year in Burnett and he didn't even finish out the year with Beard and quit. Beard is going after the bigger talent now, but can he handle them and manage their egos? He has a top 5 team this year so anything less than the FF maybe E8 would be a flop. I just don't think he is the guy under the bright lights. I think he is like Shaka and better in that underdog role at a place like he just left in TT. But we will see.

I know that crowd they had at TT a few years back was amazing, hostile and we went in there and handled them.
 
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3 guys that play the same position and carr.
I would take our transfers over theirs.
Oscar, grady, wheeler, Fredrick
Apparently our coaching staff agrees. Didn't go after a single player they got besides Carr and If we had waited on him we would have him.
I love our guys. I'm just saying that is an impressive haul. I'm not even a Beard fan like some on here. Disu is 6ft9 and deadly from 3 and Mitchel and Allen are 2 of the best Forwards in the country. I just like those 3 a lot not so much with Carr, but still pretty impressive. Just giving props where they are due. I wish we played Texas at Rupp since it got Covided last year. Hell, At KU no chance and wouldn't matter if they sucked the refs will never let us out of there with a W.
 
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I love our guys. I'm just saying that is an impressive haul. I'm not even a Beard fan like some on here. Disu is 6ft9 and deadly from 3 and Mitchel and Allen are 2 of the best Forwards in the country. I just like those 3 a lot not so much with Carr, but still pretty impressive. Just giving props where they are due. I wish we played Texas at Rupp since it got Covided last year. Hell, At KU no chance and wouldn't matter if they sucked the refs will never let us out of there with a W.

And that’s enough for me and I agree. He’s done very well, and clearly a cut above most younger coaches. The things he’s done at TT are pretty wild, and he’s definitely earned his rep that’s why Texas hired him.
 
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The Texas job is Beard's audition for the UK job.

No excuses there. Unlimited resources. Local elite talent where he already has ties.

Go be a final four contender every year.
 
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And that’s enough for me and I agree. He’s done very well, and clearly a cut above most younger coaches. The things he’s done at TT are pretty wild, and he’s definitely earned his rep that’s why Texas hired him.
Texas also hired Smart for his 1 FF appearance, then he didn't do **** at Texas. We'll see what happens.
 

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Beard has been a failure lol.

Now I definitely don’t take you seriously.

I couldn’t care less if you take me seriously or not, fact still remains, you can back up what you’re saying with cold hard facts. To make a case for him to be even decent, it takes a lot of assumptions and opinions with no evidence. With his resume, he better be thanking the Lord he’s not standing in the unemployment line, where he honestly belongs.
 

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There isn’t one projection that didn’t have TT in the tournament that I can find. He was not going to miss the tournament and has been better than Cal of late. Considering the program differences, it proves he’s legit and that’s exactly why Texas hired him.

Again if some of you can’t get this it’s not my fault.

As of late huh? Such as the 2019-2020 season, where UK was 25-6 and TT was 18-13? UK winning head to head that year too. No not that one, right. Must be the 2016-2017 season where Beard lost double digit games too? No not that one.

So in all honesty, it boils down to 2018-2019 season where he went 31-7? Cal and UK went 30-7 that same year. Lol So it all comes down to Beard having absolutely nothing on Cal. Cal had one bad season this year, Beard has had this type of seasons his whole career.
 

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very sad and only two posters mentioned Cal; and not in an overly excited way Yet, in your mind... lol you are obsessed
It's you who needs to look in the mirror.Grown men don't hang off the jock of any coach.You had to jump in to protect your hero.
 

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It's you who needs to look in the mirror.Grown men don't hang off the jock of any coach.You had to jump in to protect your hero.
Lol. Get that sand out yet panties.

I just called it straight and you exploded. Lol. What a *****...
 
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Cals final four at Umass was actually stripped to scandal. Beard hasn’t had any scandals that I’m aware of. And I’m not even talking about 30 years ago, so I don’t know why you went to Umass. Kind of shows you need to do some incredible brain twisting to bolster Cal.

Cal just finished 9-16 and has lost his edge at UK. He’s not competing that well in conference and has been beaten by most rivals more than holding serve.

Beard in that same time frame hasn’t missed any tournaments, was an overtime away from a title, and did all of this at a doormat program. Cal is at the top program. It matters.

For you to believe Calipari has been better than Beard of late shows total confirmation bias on your part. For Beard to do that at TT and Cal to do what he’s done of late at UK is nothing short of wtf.
Scott Drew has been much better, and, at Baylor. Just curious as to why you are not trying to be the President of his fan club instead of Beards.
 

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Scott Drew has been much better, and, at Baylor. Just curious as to why you are not trying to be the President of his fan club instead of Beards.

Because he’s not really been better. It depends on what you’re looking at.

Drew has been at Baylor a long time and is known as a very dirty guy. Beard has not, and he’s one of the best up and comers. I don’t think people fully grasp how hard it is to do at TT what he did. Texas fully understood it.
 

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As of late huh? Such as the 2019-2020 season, where UK was 25-6 and TT was 18-13? UK winning head to head that year too. No not that one, right. Must be the 2016-2017 season where Beard lost double digit games too? No not that one.

So in all honesty, it boils down to 2018-2019 season where he went 31-7? Cal and UK went 30-7 that same year. Lol So it all comes down to Beard having absolutely nothing on Cal. Cal had one bad season this year, Beard has had this type of seasons his whole career.

No, it boils down to Cal being extremely under the mark at the best program in history, and Beard doing extremely well at a doormat program.

You’re clearly not seeing things well. I understand you’re sold on cals salesman routine. I like Cal, he was the right hire, but lately it’s looking like it might not be best for the future. If you can’t go there then don’t, but those that deal in reality will discuss it.
 

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The Texas job is Beard's audition for the UK job.

No excuses there. Unlimited resources. Local elite talent where he already has ties.

Go be a final four contender every year.

I don’t think he has to contend every year to be in a final four at Texas. Cal doesn’t do that at UK. We’re just trying to get back to the NCAA tournament.

Seems like you’re pretty high on Beard yourself. Is he good enough for you to hope he doesn’t land at Kansas, but not currently good enough for UK? This was your response in a thread about Self leaving Kansas.


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I hope he stays forever, or until someone else hires Chris Beard.
 
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I don’t think he has to contend every year to be in a final four at Texas. Cal doesn’t do that at UK. We’re just trying to get back to the NCAA tournament.

Seems like you’re pretty high on Beard yourself. Is he good enough for you to hope he doesn’t land at Kansas, but not currently good enough for UK? This was your response in a thread about Self leaving Kansas.


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I hope he stays forever, or until someone else hires Chris Beard.

Guess you did a lot of reading before you signed up to post.

I think he's a good coach. I don't want to see Kansas hire anyone good. I want them to hire during a coaching cycle where the top options are all unavailable.

He hasn't shown me enough to say he's ready for the Kentucky job. That doesn't mean he won't or can't.

But he has to be a contender at Texas or he just stays in that tier below. You have to be a sure thing here. He's not yet.
 

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Guess you did a lot of reading before you signed up to post.

I think he's a good coach. I don't want to see Kansas hire anyone good. I want them to hire during a coaching cycle where the top options are all unavailable.

He hasn't shown me enough to say he's ready for the Kentucky job. That doesn't mean he won't or can't.

But he has to be a contender at Texas or he just stays in that tier below. You have to be a sure thing here. He's not yet.

Nah, just happened to see that because I thought at one point you were pretty high on him. You actually posted more than that, so you were very high in him.

Nobody is good enough for Kansas but not good enough for Kentucky. That option literally doesn’t exist. If you think someone can coach at Kansas, UNC, or Duke, then they could certainly coach at UK.

He’s as close to a sure thing of a hire as some we’ve ever gone after. So that really doesn’t make sense. He’s much more qualified than Tubby, Hall, and arguably Cal.

Saying you don’t want Kansas to hire him is quite the endorsement, but I get what you’re saying to a point. Although, you were very clear. You wanted Beard off the table for the Kansas job. I think that’s pretty self explanatory.
 

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I couldn’t care less if you take me seriously or not, fact still remains, you can back up what you’re saying with cold hard facts. To make a case for him to be even decent, it takes a lot of assumptions and opinions with no evidence. With his resume, he better be thanking the Lord he’s not standing in the unemployment line, where he honestly belongs.
Seems like your smarter than the Texas AD
 

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Nah, just happened to see that because I thought at one point you were pretty high on him. You actually posted more than that, so you were very high in him.

Nobody is good enough for Kansas but not good enough for Kentucky. That option literally doesn’t exist. If you think someone can coach at Kansas, UNC, or Duke, then they could certainly coach at UK.

He’s as close to a sure thing of a hire as some we’ve ever gone after. So that really doesn’t make sense. He’s much more qualified than Tubby, Hall, and arguably Cal.

Saying you don’t want Kansas to hire him is quite the endorsement, but I get what you’re saying to a point. Although, you were very clear. You wanted Beard off the table for the Kansas job. I think that’s pretty self explanatory.

I don't think he's "proven" he's ready for the Kansas job either. I just don't want them to get the chance to find out. I want them to make a mess of the hire like Indiana has.

Like I said, I think he's a good coach. I wonder about his personality and style of play. Not everyone who can win games is a good fit here. It's the one job that's bigger than that.

And he's most assuredly not more proven and accomplished than Cal was. I'm too young to comment on the others. No idea what the atmosphere was like at the time.

I'm not saying he has to win a title. I actually like the idea of hiring a guy who hasn't and is still hungry. But you gotta show me you can build a program that is knocking on the door consistently. Beard has the perfect chance to do that.
 

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I couldn’t care less if you take me seriously or not, fact still remains, you can back up what you’re saying with cold hard facts. To make a case for him to be even decent, it takes a lot of assumptions and opinions with no evidence. With his resume, he better be thanking the Lord he’s not standing in the unemployment line, where he honestly belongs.
The guy landed a job that will pay him 35 million. Sorry, that's not a failure.
 

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I don't think he's "proven" he's ready for the Kansas job either. I just don't want them to get the chance to find out. I want them to make a mess of the hire like Indiana has.

Like I said, I think he's a good coach. I wonder about his personality and style of play. Not everyone who can win games is a good fit here. It's the one job that's bigger than that.

And he's most assuredly not more proven and accomplished than Cal was. I'm too young to comment on the others. No idea what the atmosphere was like at the time.

I'm not saying he has to win a title. I actually like the idea of hiring a guy who hasn't and is still hungry. But you gotta show me you can build a program that is knocking on the door consistently. Beard has the perfect chance to do that.

I guess I just don’t get the logic.

You cannot take Texas tech to an overtime away from a national title, and follow that up with an earshot to another final four, if you’re not proving you belong in the elite class. Then he’s offered Texas, so I mean, does he really need a national title, 2 title games, 4 elite eights and more to be considered good enough for UK? He was a winner at a loser program. He needs Calipari’s 20 year UK resume to be considered?

Cal had 2 stripped final fours and many NIT appearances before landing the UK job. It is very arguable that what he’s done at Tech is as good or better than Cal before he arrived. Cal was begging for jobs when he returned to college and looking for guy like Larry Brown to open doors for him. Beard is about where he can hand pick his programs.

Tubby had never advanced past the sweet 16 before the UK job. Wouldn’t you say a title game (overtime from a title) and an elite 8 is better than that? Why play word games with it, it’s clearly better and he’s clearly more qualified for this job.

I’m okay with seeing how Beard does at Texas, we can’t predict the future after all. But if you read through this thread, some of it is absolutely ridiculous. Beard would be a fantastic hire for UK today, and I think you also think that deep down. Whether or not it would work doesn’t mean it wouldnt be a fantastic hire in this moment. With all seriousness, you don’t even want to see him at Kansas. You’re pretty high on him.

Beard has done too much, is far too hungry, and recruiting to well to be a flash in the pan. The guy is the real deal. Anyone that really understands college basketball should easily see he’s a good bet to make.
 
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