Lively Decision next week!

track42

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Those downplaying this one are naive. This is a Duke-UK war in what will be the post-Coach K world.

We need this one, and badly. Duke has owned us on the recruiting trail for the last 5 or 6 years. We need to send a message that those days are coming to an end.
Exactly.Now that K is gone Cal needs to show he can't be on top again.
 

macaca

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Branham is pretty solid and all the latest updates are leaning Duke. Supposedly some of Duke’s current commits have been told he’s coming to Duke. Bona will be a nice consolation prize and while not as talented of a NBA prospect he has a better motor and will probably put up similar stats in college
 

PbAbdo

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Those downplaying this one are naive. This is a Duke-UK war in what will be the post-Coach K world.

We need this one, and badly. Duke has owned us on the recruiting trail for the last 5 or 6 years. We need to send a message that those days are coming to an end.
Lol, we literally just took the consensus #1 recruit and another top 5 player in the last 2 weeks. I think we'll be okay. 😂
 

Bluesnky

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Branham is pretty solid and all the latest updates are leaning Duke. Supposedly some of Duke’s current commits have been told he’s coming to Duke. Bona will be a nice consolation prize and while not as talented of a NBA prospect he has a better motor and will probably put up similar stats in college
Supposedly according to what?
 

Cohn Jalipari

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There’s talk on the 24/7 duke paid board that Jon and duke staff laid out a blue print for DL and he loved it.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Had we not had this great recruiting period, yes.. this would be a must get. But I think we can afford to lose this one, when it's pretty clear it's Coach K who is scrambling, worried about our momentum.

We'd get Bona it seems (along with Wallace) and I think there's some good silver lining in Bona: We still lock up the class early, He's a talented big and he fits a need, He's a recruit in the range of 15-20 so he *could* be a two-year player, and he should be a 2nd-tier player on a team of studs.. the last part is something I worry about with Lively, in that its a high profile recruit, and some of these guys might want touches. I think you saw that a bit with Cam/Zion/RJ. I think it's possible you can have TOO much talent.

With Bona, I think you can sell him better on being a m3rd or 4th option, where as Lively, will likely want a bigger roll. Not saying I want Bona over him. But I do think Bona could wind up fitting just as well.
 

tmuck

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Jack Pilgrim said he would put it at 60-40 Duke right now, but if he did pick Duke, Bona to UK would happen sometime next week. Basically said he's waiting to see what Lively does.
 

Bluesnky

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If we miss on Lively I wonder if we try to jump in on Yohan Traore. A top 10 guy who blew up this summer and has taken no visits.

I don’t know much about the guy so I’m not sure why his recruitment has been so quiet.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Matt Jones already going full weasel mode and hedging his bets on Duke, but also conceded that he doesn't know - just like everyone else.
 
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Cohn Jalipari

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Coach K to play him at all five positions simultaneously just like LeBron and also sold him on that time he helped Kobe learn to shoot threes after Kobe was already in the league for 12 years.
It’s amazing the lies duke tells bigs. All Cal has to do is show them a list of duke bigs who were promised to be a “point forward” and their NBA careers at this moment.

Jahlil Okafor (who?)
Marcus Bolden (lol)
Wendell Carter Jr (“I was supposed to be the main guy”)
Marcus Bagley
Vernon Carey Jr
 
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CoachKlein

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At this current moment ... I don’t think anyone definitively knows.

From what I can tell: Kentucky followers are starting to hedge and lean Duke, while Duke followers are cautiously waiting to know for certain, as well; essentially, I think most people are leaning a different direction because no one knows for certain.

A lot of optimism for UK the last couple of weeks, so all of this could be a stunt to build more suspense—who really knows?

Either way, we’ll have another five-star prospect next week.

Set your expectations low: you’ll either get what you expected, or be pleasantly surprised.

Go Cats!
 
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Bluesnky

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60-40 is recruiting guru language for "I have no clue what this kid will do but I want to appear like I'm competent."
Well you know sometimes the family really wants one school while the player wants another and you’ve just got to wait to see who wins out. I’m an insider.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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It’s amazing the lies duke tells bigs. All Cal has to do is show them a list of duke bigs who were promised to be a “point forward” and their NBA careers at this moment.

Jahlil Okafor (who?)
Marcus Bolden (lol)
Wendell Carter Jr (“I was supposed to be the main guy”)
Marcus Bolden
Vernon Carey Jr
I think at least three of those guys ended up in NBA Witness Protection Program because no one has heard a word from them.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Don’t get me wrong, I love what I see in the highlights I’ve watched of Sharpe but how in the hell is Lively not the number one recruit? That kid can pass, shoot and rebound. The one weakness I see is I guess his lack of strength but that will come around at some point.
Only UK fans would get the #1 recruit in the country and wonder why an uncommitted recruit is not ranked higher....strange
 

Shawn (uk7spd)

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@Cowtown Cat what does that post from sisk say on HOB?
It says 48.5% Kentucky, 48.5% Duke, and 13% Penn St.

 

PbAbdo

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Ah...so we're moving the discussion goal posts now that your initial argument went nowhere? Interesting, Leadbelly.
What goalposts were moved? Your first implied the significance of winning these recruiting wars with Duke as the utmost importance. You said I haven't been paying attention the last 6 years... I asked who has won anything the last 6 years with these type of players? Wouldn't that prove or disprove their importance and the importance of this recruiting war, at least to a degree?

Why are you afraid to answer about the last 6 years? Or can you just not?

Why the need for fallacies when you can't answer the questions?
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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What goalposts were moved? Your first implied the significance of winning these recruiting wars with Duke as the utmost importance. You said I haven't been paying attention the last 6 years... I asked who has won anything the last 6 years with these type of players? Wouldn't that prove or disprove their importance and the importance of this recruiting war, at least to a degree?

Why are you afraid to answer about the last 6 years? Or can you just not?

Why the need for fallacies when you can't answer the questions?
So Coach K and Calipari have similar success rates with elite recruits?

We've had this discussion before, and you didn't do well in that one either, but I do like it when you write about fallacies after midnight.
 

bucsrule8872

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I’m just glad it’s over Monday. If we get Lively, then we are golden.

If not, then it’s all in for Bona. He is not a bad consolation prize.

I think either way, Cal is done recruiting the ‘22 class this Fall.

G Wallace
G Clark
G Sharpe
F Livingston
F Lively or Bona

The class is done by November. Cal concentrates on his current team. Then come April, he knows who is coming back and starts evaluating transfers in the portal to finish out the roster.

I like his strategy. He”ll have at least five 5-stars plus 3-4 guys back, finish with 2-3 guys from the portal.