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leodisflowers

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Actually Florida had more votes left to count post-election day than Georgia did. But Trump's margin of victory was pretty comfortable and the outstanding ballots were from areas that were more evenly mixed, so there was no drama to watch.

Not saying Florida's system didn't work well - it probably did. But the main reason nobody's scrutinizing Florida is because it just wasn't that close.

Interesting. I watched a pretty heavy variety of News networks and they were all saying how flawless Florida went and how clean everything was.
 

mwulf

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Count the votes when they come in don't wait until AFTER the election to start. This Pennsylvania delay could have been easily avoided and this would have been wrapped up Tuesday night even early. So in the next few months will we see a bunch of 3rd world Africans running around in MAGAwear
 

schuele

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Count the votes when they come in don't wait until AFTER the election to start. This Pennsylvania delay could have been easily avoided and this would have been wrapped up Tuesday night even early. So in the next few months will we see a bunch of 3rd world Africans running around in MAGAwear
Well by now they really do need replacements for all those SUPER BOWL CHAMPION BUFFALO BILLS T-shirts.
 

MOHUSKER

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Count the votes when they come in don't wait until AFTER the election to start. This Pennsylvania delay could have beenjj easily avoided and this would have been wrapped up Tuesday night even early. So in the next few months will we see a bunch of 3rd world Africans running around in MAGAwear

They wanted to start counting early, GOP efforts blocked this repeatedly. Here we are now...
 
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Trump needs to conceed, in the classiest way possible, and move on. He could not have choked worse if he tried...the election was his for the taking but America just got to sick of him acting like a teenage girl and picking fights with everyone. Trump let his supporters down, me included. I pray he doesn't act like the last loser and whine and moan for years, because the last loser could have done a lot to help the country move on and instead chose the most destructive path possible and helped rip America in half. Don't do that please.
 

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Interesting. I watched a pretty heavy variety of News networks and they were all saying how flawless Florida went and how clean everything was.
I'm not suggesting otherwise. But there were lots of states counting votes well after election day. In most cases, we just stopped watching.
 

steinek11

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Trump needs to conceed, in the classiest way possible, and move on. He could not have choked worse if he tried...the election was his for the taking but America just got to sick of him acting like a teenage girl and picking fights with everyone. Trump let his supporters down, me included. I pray he doesn't act like the last loser and whine and moan for years, because the last loser could have done a lot to help the country move on and instead chose the most destructive path possible and helped rip America in half. Don't do that please.
You are right. He might win a couple of battles in the court, but he is going to lose the war, and the uglier it gets and the longer it goes on, the worse it will be for the country and the party. If he thinks the Supreme Court will save him, he is misled. They are going to kick many of his cases back down to the states, as they should. We can find fraud in this election, but it will be too little and too late.

I was concerned about his messaging all along. The jackals in the media would only magnify the negative while giving no credit for the positive. I love the fight in him and I hope others will have his level of conviction, but I also recognize that his personality was just so over the top and toxic that he might not be able to overcome it, despite his great record. Some people make decisions purely on emotion. It's better to understand that and communicate in a way that does not alienate them. Joe says he will unite the country. He won't. He's clueless. But, people like to hear those reassuring words.

A leader can rant from time to time, but that cannot be their default mode. When you think of HIllary, what image pops up? For me it's a scowling face, condescending, and smug. Same with Liz. Always angry, always lecturing. I think she hates me! Boo, bad, do not recommend.
 

huskernation1973

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I didn't read past the first line. Are they saying that the media is biased for conservative causes? Cause that's some serious BS.
Just basically saying it has a slant based on headlines, how well items are sourced, sided reporting, etc. If you read down, it get's more specific as to why it is rated the way it is.

Here's the rating for MSNBC:

CNN: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

BBC: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/

Reuters: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reuters/
 

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Just basically saying it has a slant based on headlines, how well items are sourced, sided reporting, etc. If you read down, it get's more specific as to why it is rated the way it is.

Here's the rating for MSNBC:

CNN: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/

BBC: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/bbc/

Reuters: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reuters/

Oh I get it. I thought it was saying overall there is a conservative bias
 

huskernation1973

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You are right. He might win a couple of battles in the court, but he is going to lose the war, and the uglier it gets and the longer it goes on, the worse it will be for the country and the party. If he thinks the Supreme Court will save him, he is misled. They are going to kick many of his cases back down to the states, as they should. We can find fraud in this election, but it will be too little and too late.

I was concerned about his messaging all along. The jackals in the media would only magnify the negative while giving no credit for the positive. I love the fight in him and I hope others will have his level of conviction, but I also recognize that his personality was just so over the top and toxic that he might not be able to overcome it, despite his great record. Some people make decisions purely on emotion. It's better to understand that and communicate in a way that does not alienate them. Joe says he will unite the country. He won't. He's clueless. But, people like to hear those reassuring words.

A leader can rant from time to time, but that cannot be their default mode. When you think of HIllary, what image pops up? For me it's a scowling face, condescending, and smug. Same with Liz. Always angry, always lecturing. I think she hates me! Boo, bad, do not recommend.
I don't see how whining, retweeting conspiracies like that crazy uncle that no one wants to show up at holidays, and spewing lies and falsehoods is an example of fighting or having convictions.

As far as his record goes, he's been good at fixing things back to their original condition after having f***ed them up. He's the doctor that amputates the wrong limb, realizes his mistake, sews it back on, and then marvels at the sewing job he did afterwards.
 

steinek11

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I don't see how whining, retweeting conspiracies like that crazy uncle that no one wants to show up at holidays, and spewing lies and falsehoods is an example of fighting or having convictions.

As far as his record goes, he's been good at fixing things back to their original condition after having f***ed them up. He's the doctor that amputates the wrong limb, realizes his mistake, sews it back on, and then marvels at the sewing job he did afterwards.
Really? Tell me how he was responsible for the wars and fighting in the middle east? He was responsible for moving factories to China and allowing them to steal trade secrets? Was he also responsible for RBGs cancer and death? Did he author NAFTA? Did he tell NATO nations to underpay their dues? Is he importing drugs, illegal weapons and human trafficking along the southern border? Did he create the horrific monstrosity that is Obamacare? Was defunding the police his idea? Did he create decades of burdensome over-regulation. Should I go on?

Your narrative is so blatantly dishonest that it is breath-taking. Trump could cure cancer and you'd accuse him of putting doctors out of work. That's not hyperbole. I wish it was.
 

huskernation1973

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Really? Tell me how he was responsible for the wars and fighting in the middle east? He was responsible for moving factories to China and allowing them to steal trade secrets? Was he also responsible for RBGs cancer and death? Did he author NAFTA? Did he tell NATO nations to underpay their dues? Is he importing drugs, illegal weapons and human trafficking along the southern border? Did he create the horrific monstrosity that is Obamacare? Was defunding the police his idea? Did he create decades of burdensome over-regulation. Should I go on?

Your narrative is so blatantly dishonest that it is breath-taking. Trump could cure cancer and you'd accuse him of putting doctors out of work. That's not hyperbole. I wish it was.
Wars in the Middle East- Never said he was. He is responsible for initially deciding to abandon Kurdish allies, and basically giving ground to Syrians. I'm all for getting out of things, but in a responsible manner.

China- He has had, and continues, to have some of his products made in China. Time to walk the walk, or shut up.

I said nothing about RBG.

NATO doesn't pay dues. Countries are responsible for paying a certain % of their GDP towards their own defense departments (between 2% and 3%). Yes, many countries were, and are, under that level. He pushed them to pay over 4%. They refused. It was then agreed upon to pay the initial amount. We are also the only nation that Article V of the charter applied to. NATO troops have been killed on our behalf in Afghanistan- not to mention helping avoid another major war in Europe (outside of Yugoslavia) for the past 70 years. I'd say we've gotten a pretty good return on investment from NATO, and Trump doesn't seem to know or understand that.

I will never understand how Trump has ended drug and human trafficking, as is often claimed. I'm quite certain those things still go on.

Nope, he didn't create Obamacare. He also had 2 years of a friendly Congress to fix/change/ditch it, and he failed to do so. That's on him now. If you still want to ***** about it, then fine, but some of the blame is on him now. If it was so f***ing important and so terrible and such a priority, why didn't it get addressed?

Biden is for increasing funding for law enforcement, so your point there is, well, pointless.

Lastly, when/ if Trump cures cancer, we'll discuss this issue at that point in time.

I'll even throw in a couple of freebees:

I don't give 2 ***** where the US Embassy in Israel is located, and I bet you didn't either prior to it being moved, and Trump telling you how great it was.

Federal Judges and SCOTUS Justices-- The former is something presidents generally do, and the latter occurs when vacancies pop up. I didn't view Obama getting 2 justices seated as an accomplishment, and I don't view it that way with Trump getting 3 on, either.

Anything else?
 
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Bigred_b1624

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Am I the only one, more concerned that possibly no fraud took place and a Biden/Harris ticket got the most votes ever?
 

steinek11

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Wars in the Middle East- Never said he was. He is responsible for initially deciding to abandon Kurdish allies, and basically giving ground to Syrians. I'm all for getting out of things, but in a responsible manner.

China- He has had, and continues, to have some of his products made in China. Time to walk the walk, or shut up.

I said nothing about RBG.

NATO doesn't pay dues. Countries are responsible for paying a certain % of their GDP towards their own defense departments (between 2% and 3%). Yes, many countries were, and are, under that level. He pushed them to pay over 4%. They refused. It was then agreed upon to pay the initial amount. We are also the only nation that Article V of the charter applied to. NATO troops have been killed on our behalf in Afghanistan- not to mention helping avoid another major war in Europe (outside of Yugoslavia) for the past 70 years. I'd say we've gotten a pretty good return on investment from NATO, and Trump doesn't seem to know or understand that.

I will never understand how Trump has ended drug and human trafficking, as is often claimed. I'm quite certain those things still go on.

Nope, he didn't create Obamacare. He also had 2 years of a friendly Congress to fix/change/ditch it, and he failed to do so. That's on him now. If you still want to ***** about it, then fine, but some of the blame is on him now. If it was so f***ing important and so terrible and such a priority, why didn't it get addressed?

Biden is for increasing funding for law enforcement, so your point there is, well, pointless.

Lastly, when/ if Trump cures cancer, we'll discuss this issue at that point in time.

I'll even throw in a couple of freebees:

I don't give 2 ***** where the US Embassy in Israel is located, and I bet you didn't either prior to it being moved, and Trump telling you how great it was.

Federal Judges and SCOTUS Justices-- The former is something presidents generally do, and the latter occurs when vacancies pop up. I didn't view Obama getting 2 justices seated as an accomplishment, and I don't view it that way with Trump getting 3 on, either.

Anything else?

You've got some anger issues, but I can recommend a good chiropractor if you want
 

MOHUSKER

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Am I the only one, more concerned that possibly no fraud took place and a Biden/Harris ticket got the most votes ever?

I’m sure, somewhere there was some semblance of shadiness or fraud, but I’d wager that the rate of the 150,000,000 or so ballots cast, the fraud rate will be lower than the IFR of COVID.
 

Kato

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Wars in the Middle East- Never said he was. He is responsible for initially deciding to abandon Kurdish allies, and basically giving ground to Syrians. I'm all for getting out of things, but in a responsible manner.

China- He has had, and continues, to have some of his products made in China. Time to walk the walk, or shut up.

I said nothing about RBG.

NATO doesn't pay dues. Countries are responsible for paying a certain % of their GDP towards their own defense departments (between 2% and 3%). Yes, many countries were, and are, under that level. He pushed them to pay over 4%. They refused. It was then agreed upon to pay the initial amount. We are also the only nation that Article V of the charter applied to. NATO troops have been killed on our behalf in Afghanistan- not to mention helping avoid another major war in Europe (outside of Yugoslavia) for the past 70 years. I'd say we've gotten a pretty good return on investment from NATO, and Trump doesn't seem to know or understand that.

I will never understand how Trump has ended drug and human trafficking, as is often claimed. I'm quite certain those things still go on.

Nope, he didn't create Obamacare. He also had 2 years of a friendly Congress to fix/change/ditch it, and he failed to do so. That's on him now. If you still want to ***** about it, then fine, but some of the blame is on him now. If it was so f***ing important and so terrible and such a priority, why didn't it get addressed?

Biden is for increasing funding for law enforcement, so your point there is, well, pointless.

Lastly, when/ if Trump cures cancer, we'll discuss this issue at that point in time.

I'll even throw in a couple of freebees:

I don't give 2 ***** where the US Embassy in Israel is located, and I bet you didn't either prior to it being moved, and Trump telling you how great it was.

Federal Judges and SCOTUS Justices-- The former is something presidents generally do, and the latter occurs when vacancies pop up. I didn't view Obama getting 2 justices seated as an accomplishment, and I don't view it that way with Trump getting 3 on, either.

Anything else?

If Biden is the answer, why has it taken 47 years. Hell, if I were a betting man, I'd say Biden won't be the president come the end of his first year. Pelosi already threw out the thought of the 25th amendment. Why would she threaten using it on Trump when only the VP can enact it? So when Kamala enacts it, it's fresh in every one's mind, so no shock.
 

mwulf

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If Biden is the answer, why has it taken 47 years. Hell, if I were a betting man, I'd say Biden won't be the president come the end of his first year. Pelosi already threw out the thought of the 25th amendment. Why would she threaten using it on Trump when only the VP can enact it? So when Kamala enacts it, it's fresh in every one's mind, so no shock.
I've seen this posted a few times. Not as many times as people said Covid would go away on Nov 4 but quite a few times nonetheless
 

Bigred_b1624

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I've seen this posted a few times. Not as many times as people said Covid would go away on Nov 4 but quite a few times nonetheless
Have an answer though? Other than being extremely racist and writing legislation that put millions of my fellow black people in jail...what has Biden accomplished? Honest question
 

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It's pretty sad when the country elects a washed up, 77 yr old, career politician with dementia over the most successful first term president of my lifetime. Do people really think Kamala Harris (actual president elect) is gonna unite this country after the 4 years of total ******** the Democrats put Trump through? But whatever........Trump's a big meanie.
 

steinek11

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It used to be a governorship was the best path to the WH. Not sure about that anymore. Being highly connected and compromised seems like the way now.
 

mwulf

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Have an answer though? Other than being extremely racist and writing legislation that put millions of my fellow black people in jail...what has Biden accomplished? Honest question
Not being Donald Trump...thats really all it took. My hope is he has an all-star cabinet and group of advisors or its gonna be a messy few years. Not gonna get into the race part because Trump had a 40 year documented path in that category as well.
 

Bigred_b1624

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Not being Donald Trump...thats really all it took. My hope is he has an all-star cabinet and group of advisors or its gonna be a messy few years. Not gonna get into the race part because Trump had a 40 year documented path in that category as well.
So Biden's more racist and less accomplished?
 
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