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How many of them were mailed in?
Some judges have said mail-in ballots don't have to be stamped!
And we're not talking about drop box either.
WTF??!!
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the WTF??!! should be directed at every damn one of you that can't accept the outcome. If the Democrats were going to cheat then why not make it a landslide for the House, Senate and just took Florida?
Just STFU and accept it if he loses. I will if Trump wins
A lot of the Dems spent the last 4 years saying the trump presidency is illegitimate. If you and your ilk wanted to take the high road, you could have. You'll have to put up with millions of people screaming the same thing for the next four years now.
I wasn't one of em, and I'd say to them the same... just STFU and accept it. Is that relevant to what's happening right now?
Sure it is, when it comes to the behavior of the electorate....and I didn't vote for Trump then or now, but the hypocrisy needs to be called out.
Are we just going to ignore the hundreds of millions of outsider dollars that went into individual states?
Zuckerberg gave 250 million dollars in Wisconsin. WHY!?!? To get out the vote in the 5 biggest counties where Hillary won 82% in 2016. If this was legitimate, the money would be spread all over the state, including counties that favor Trump. It did not.
Bloomberg plowed 100 million into Florida's races. That seems like a lot. Outsiders poured 100+ million to oust Lindsay Graham. How much was spent to get the unknown to nearly knock off Joni Ernst? Based on the non stop TV ads, A LOT.
And I won't leave Adelson out of this either as he gives millions to Republicans.
These mega-dollar tsunami's have got to stop. Elections are being bought by the wealthy.
Zuckerberg gave 250 million dollars in Wisconsin. WHY!?!? To get out the vote in the 5 biggest counties where Hillary won 82% in 2016. If this was legitimate, the money would be spread all over the state, including counties that favor Trump. It did not.
Bloomberg plowed 100 million into Florida's races. That seems like a lot. Outsiders poured 100+ million to oust Lindsay Graham. How much was spent to get the unknown to nearly knock off Joni Ernst? Based on the non stop TV ads, A LOT.
And I won't leave Adelson out of this either as he gives millions to Republicans.
These mega-dollar tsunami's have got to stop. Elections are being bought by the wealthy.
I say if someone cheats we should nail them for it.
BUT... Can someone show us ACTUAL EVIDENCE before people run around like children crying because they lost? I'd also like to hear an explanation on why this massive election fraud that was perpetrated by thousands of people working in tandem could not succeed at cheating the Senate (among other races). As far as I can see there is zero evidence, just a bunch of sore losers.
President Chump is on TV right now and my god he is embarrassing, what a baby... I really wish we would've had some better options.
BUT... Can someone show us ACTUAL EVIDENCE before people run around like children crying because they lost? I'd also like to hear an explanation on why this massive election fraud that was perpetrated by thousands of people working in tandem could not succeed at cheating the Senate (among other races). As far as I can see there is zero evidence, just a bunch of sore losers.
President Chump is on TV right now and my god he is embarrassing, what a baby... I really wish we would've had some better options.
It’s comical, states asked to begin counting huge numbers of absentee votes early and the GOP denied it. So they had to wait to start counting, now those votes that were already there are somehow “late” and “fake”. Yet somehow the tens to hundreds of thousands of votes held hostage by the USPS aren’t a big deal.
Just need to end this thing. If Biden won so be it. Let’s move forward. Huskers on Saturday baby
This doesn't make any sense. You want to end it by giving the election to the guy who didn't win it? That's why the republicans (and many dems/independents) voted for Trump. Losing on purpose to make marxists happy isn't a recipe for civilization survival. I will admit it has been the republicans official game plan since Lee Atwater died in 1991, but it's a self-destructive game plan.
The silence from top Republicans the last 2 days is shameful. Why wont they grow a pair? Crazy Nancy, Schumer, Durbin? All nasty for the left. Crooked, but not afraid to fight.
If Trump loses, he's the kingmaker on the right if he decides to be, so these wimps would be well advised to get on board before the train leaves the station. And by nasty, I don't mean they need to emulate a bunch of name calling and put downs, but speaking the truth forcefully and being willing to hurt some feelings. Stop being such a p**** footing people-pleasers
I haven’t seen anything concrete that says Trump was cheated. Lots of commotion, but it looks small scale. Until something major happens it looks like a Biden win fair and square. The American people spoke and we move forward. I’m ready to move on as well. Stop being so dramatic on the Marxist stuff. Republicans still have the Senate.
He was only cheated in the states he lost. He is being cheated in Arizona but it's totally possible that he won't continue to be cheated this time tomorrow. Seriously though in spite of the suppression tactics we have had record turnout and that's awesome. Biden will win the popular by 5 million and the electoral by quite a bit. In reality there are too many people voting for both sides to ignore each other. We have too much in common so maybe the infighting will decline the next few years and there can be some healing.
leodisflowers = a Trump supporter I respect. You are just a conservative who gets it. For some reason the site won't let me post links, but this is Bernie Sanders saying exactly what came to be
I agree LF.
I agree Leodis...looks to be a Biden win. I don’t buy into any major conspiracy theories at this point with the vote. Was it a level playing field though? With the media, Twitter and FB all obviously doing what they could to keep any bad press off of Biden while keeping the spotlight on Trump at any (slight) gaff? The media and big tech have a big part in the typical Americans perceptions. And in that area...Trump was obviously battling an uphill battle from the get go. Switch Hunter Biden with Donald Trump Jr.....you know very well that EVERY station and news outlet would have been investigating and reporting that story 24x7. If anyone says they believe otherwise...they are lying.
In the end, everyone expected Trump’s Hail Mary of “election fraud” claims when faced with defeat. He’s a fighter to the end and this is the only path left to fight. What we didn’t expect was a lack of outrage or at least pushback by Republican leadership at this attempt to undermine election results (also known as Democracy).
If you voted by mail, your vote is not illegal.
If you voted by mail, your vote is not illegal.
I don't think Trump has a great chance overall
Voting by mail is not illegal, but it should be. Most western countries ban it because it's the the surest way to intimidate, steal ballots and discard them.
I could take Democrats seriously if they had any kind of integrity, but they're always looking for exceptions to the rule and lower standards. This is one reason why people have a lower opinion of politicians then they do timeshare salesman
The next president of the United States (2024) is the first Republican that comes out; talks Trump off the ledge; and shows leadership with civility.
Hoping I don’t regret posting on one of the political threads....
That's a recipe for failure. We need a strong voice, a fighter, only with more emotional intelligence.
We need to look into Florida's system. By all accounts it worked well and they had the results very quickly for all means of voting. They had a big **** up in 2000 and obviously made some changes and have a decent system.
Actually Florida had more votes left to count post-election day than Georgia did. But Trump's margin of victory was pretty comfortable and the outstanding ballots were from areas that were more evenly mixed, so there was no drama to watch.
Not saying Florida's system didn't work well - it probably did. But the main reason nobody's scrutinizing Florida is because it just wasn't that close.
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