He continues to recruit players with a established history of injuries that's on him. Pope needs to grab another big man or potter will end up being a sacrifical lamb for sec bigs.
Kam Williams has 2nd surgery
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I dont get the hate....
Pope asks medical staff.. How he doing...... Progressing fine.... 60%......
Few weeks later..... Same thing... 70%.....
A month later..... 80%..
Then it get to 90.....
And stalls.....
Hey coach.... Might need a few more months to get over the last hurdle..... Then he gets worse..... They try a few things..... The kid wants to play... No coach... I'm fine.... I'll be ready.....and it gets worse.... Then.... A 2nd surgery is needed.... Sounds like a totally perfect time line.... And pope is supposed to plan for that how..... If medical stay told him back in April..... Timeline looks good he will be ready.... And they keep saying that.... Becsuse it actually looked to be true. How is that pope's fault.... Lot of things to be upset about him..... This is not one...
Pope asks medical staff.. How he doing...... Progressing fine.... 60%......
Few weeks later..... Same thing... 70%.....
A month later..... 80%..
Then it get to 90.....
And stalls.....
Hey coach.... Might need a few more months to get over the last hurdle..... Then he gets worse..... They try a few things..... The kid wants to play... No coach... I'm fine.... I'll be ready.....and it gets worse.... Then.... A 2nd surgery is needed.... Sounds like a totally perfect time line.... And pope is supposed to plan for that how..... If medical stay told him back in April..... Timeline looks good he will be ready.... And they keep saying that.... Becsuse it actually looked to be true. How is that pope's fault.... Lot of things to be upset about him..... This is not one...
I think Pope and we know more about college rosters now. If Lewis jumped ship at the last second this year, I think Pope would find a European PG as a bandaid over the void. It may not fit as well as Lewis but would have avoided the Jasper crash and burn PG experience. The idea that Aberdeen could combo when Lowe was on the bench was solid if Lowe stays healthy. Lowe averaged 35 minutes at Pitt. Lewis leaving sucked but still was workable. When Lowe went down, the roster no longer made sense, especially with Lewis at Nova.
JQ looked like a great piece in the St John’s game. He is a next level athlete and it showed. Unfortunately, the risk overwhelmed the benefit.
Without Lowe and Lewis, the pieces never were able to fit. A starting perimeter of Lowe, Aberdeen, and Oweh would have been fun to watch develop and had Chandler and Lewis come off the bench, that would have been one of the best backcourts in the country, IMO.
JQ looked like a great piece in the St John’s game. He is a next level athlete and it showed. Unfortunately, the risk overwhelmed the benefit.
Without Lowe and Lewis, the pieces never were able to fit. A starting perimeter of Lowe, Aberdeen, and Oweh would have been fun to watch develop and had Chandler and Lewis come off the bench, that would have been one of the best backcourts in the country, IMO.
Lol, you're such a hopeless, kool-aid drinking moron.
A backcourt featuring Lowe and Aberdeen as your top guards would never be part of one of best backcourts in the country. Holy **** dude.
I think with this news we can go ahead and give Pope another year. Let's see what he can do with a healthy roster in 26/27.
If you could read, I was adding the backups of Chandler and Lewis to that backcourt. The 1, 2, and 3 would have been covered as well as any in the country. Because you don’t know basketball does not make me a moron. The use of the word moron to describe others says a lot about your intellect. Do better, if you can.
I think having Lowe may have traded one problem for another. At one point he was taking more shots per minute than Oweh. Finished just behind him the games he played in. That’s A LOT of shots for a guy that doesn’t make shots. Not saying he didn’t do some good things but this team didn’t just need a guy who could handle the ball, they needed a pg.
Now if Cooley can get him to buying into being an actual pg for Georgetown, he could be pretty good.
Too small a sample size to guess how things would have played out over the season.
Not unfair but while he was out there, that’s what we got.
I agree with you. Remains unknowable — the version we saw in games was a broken down shell with one arm.
Wouldn’t that have been a perfect time to be a distributor and not a chucker? I know it’s a small sample size but that’s how he played at Pitt too and maybe he needed to there but we didn’t that and although a small sample size, that’s how he played here.
I just don’t see him playing “that” way with DA and OO on the wings would have been any better than what we ended up with. Which obviously wasn’t that great.
No, I think he felt like he had to be more aggressive to score because the offense was anemic before he rejoined the squad.
I think the original plan was for him to be a pass-first facilitator and I think he would have been great at it. But early season Oweh was horrid and no one was scoring so there was no spacing. He had to score to earn power plays — unfortunately, he didn’t stay healthy long enough for that to happen.
I don’t dislike the young man. He did some good things but I disagree on why he tried to do too much. I think that’s just how he plays. You don’t have to agree but imo, more of him would have been more of the below and that team didn’t need that.
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I don’t see the point in posting the box score. He was barely even functional. I don’t think anyone thinks the version of him we saw was a good one.
My man. If he was “barely functional”. Why did he shoot as much as our leading scorer in 7 less minutes?
Like I said, he did some good things. For a half against UL, against StJ, Bama but I think the bad would have outweighed the good and with last year’s dysfunctional team, I don’t think there’d been any difference.
I already explained why. Everyone knew why back then also. Our offense was anemic up to that point. We saw better versions of Aberdeen and Oweh later in the year, but not back then. We were trying to figure out ways to earn power plays, our zoom wasn’t getting it done and wasn’t able to be run due to poor spacing. That changed later in the year with Moreno becoming the trigger and our guards making shots.
I disagree that him coming in and taking bad shots was a way to open up the offense. Not sure where you’re coming from there. We’re not going to agree so let’s put it to bed
Yeah I don’t see this becoming agreeable. We will just leave it be.I disagree that him coming in and taking bad shots was a way to open up the offense. Not sure where you’re coming from there. We’re not going to agree so let’s put it to bed
I still like you though even if you’re dumb and I’m smart.
I hope Kam is able to play. We need him. I just hope we don’t get into one of those saga’s again where he is healed but needs 2 months to get into game shape.
No one knows what the surgery entailed on this board, so I’m hoping it was a minor surgery that will enable his recovery to be sooner than later.
From what little I do know about the original injury (Jones Fracture Zone 3 of the Fifth Metatarsal, the part of the Fifth long bone on the end that connects to your pinky toe) I only encountered one of these particular injuries when I was studying sports medicine. It had to be realigned and stabilized with fasteners (pins) and immobilized in a walking boot for 8 weeks. In that particular case, the doctor released them to begin strengthening it and the athlete returned to build up activities (baseball player) and rebroke it again several weeks later while running on a treadmill. The second break required a bone graft (from donor tissue) to repair it as the lack of blood flow to the bone prevented the initial surgery and fasteners to allow the bone to heal fully. Recovery from the bone graft was 2 months in that athletes case.
Not saying that was the case in Kam's situation. But the fact that he needed a second surgery (in light of any real information coming from UK or Kam on it) lends me to believe he rebroke/fractured the original injury possibly practicing or conditioning and it was discovered that the original break hadn't healed completely. So they went with the more invasive option of a donor tissue bone graft. Jones Fractures have a high rate of re-breaks, especially if you return too soon (which we all know Kam did). Normally recovery for the bone graft surgery is 2-3 months and while frustrating, should lead to a healthy Kam without fear of re-break.
If I was a betting man, I'd say Kam and his family opted for the shorter timeframe fastener surgery and took the risk of a rebreak in order to get back on the court last season. As opting for the donor bone graft right away would have cost him the rest of the season.
A lot has changed in the years since I was there in the medical field and those timelines/procedures could be far more advanced now. The thing I'd probably be most concerned about though is what kind of "game shape" is he going to be in if he is on the longer end of 3 months of recovery. But I'm sure the staff is doing whatever they can conditioning/lifting wise to keep Kam from regressing too much.
Not saying that was the case in Kam's situation. But the fact that he needed a second surgery (in light of any real information coming from UK or Kam on it) lends me to believe he rebroke/fractured the original injury possibly practicing or conditioning and it was discovered that the original break hadn't healed completely. So they went with the more invasive option of a donor tissue bone graft. Jones Fractures have a high rate of re-breaks, especially if you return too soon (which we all know Kam did). Normally recovery for the bone graft surgery is 2-3 months and while frustrating, should lead to a healthy Kam without fear of re-break.
If I was a betting man, I'd say Kam and his family opted for the shorter timeframe fastener surgery and took the risk of a rebreak in order to get back on the court last season. As opting for the donor bone graft right away would have cost him the rest of the season.
A lot has changed in the years since I was there in the medical field and those timelines/procedures could be far more advanced now. The thing I'd probably be most concerned about though is what kind of "game shape" is he going to be in if he is on the longer end of 3 months of recovery. But I'm sure the staff is doing whatever they can conditioning/lifting wise to keep Kam from regressing too much.
Larry Vaught reports that Kam’s surgery went well and it is expected he will be ready to go by the time the season starts. Prognosis is almost 100% sure to be positive.
That’s good news. His dad mentioned it on a podcast few months back about being a possibility if things didn’t heal perfect. I don’t expect Kam to miss any time. Dude rushed back last year for a bad team to play. He wants it.