Jon Lovett

Shimmy24

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I haven't read this entire thread but MD was once recruiting him as a DB so maybe he's not that big of a loss at RB? Idk.
 

Burton12

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Not sure why Rivals has him as having one from PSU as our recruiting guy has been pretty adamant he doesn't have one.

Penn State offered October 24, according to 247, the best source for Penn State recruiting coverage. That said, although it might have for a time, I think it's safe to assume PSU would not accept a commitment from Lovett right now. Too many other guys higher on the board for the 2-3 spots expected to come open before Signing Day.
 

BlockR

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Kbee3

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If you are someone who can read between the lines - you knew a long time ago he wasn't coming here

Oh damn, it hurts to think we may be losing out on the guy that can lead us to the Rose Bowl in a few years.
:flush::flush::flush:
 

KJB32812

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Penn State offered October 24, according to 247, the best source for Penn State recruiting coverage. That said, although it might have for a time, I think it's safe to assume PSU would not accept a commitment from Lovett right now. Too many other guys higher on the board for the 2-3 spots expected to come open before Signing Day.

Not trying to be a deeK but I couldn't give two sheets about 247.
 

rurahrah000

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I want Ash to drop his offer. Do not let this become like the Stills or Idrizi type of situation. Even if the kid commits here, he is going to be looking elsewhere. It looks worse when a guy commits here and then goes to a different school than not committing here at all.
 

devoted2ru

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Don't really view Lovett as a program maker or breaker. -He's a good back and would be a nice/decent addition to this class, (if he actually appeared to want to be here), but clearly that isn't the vibe he's giving off.

Hey, it's his decision and he's going to do what he, and/or his "advisors", think is best for him. -But personally, I'm getting tired of this kid's act and I wouldn't mind at all if the RU staff finally told him enough is enough and we moved on.

JMO, of course, but that's how I've come to feel about this situation.
 
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RUwoz

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I want Ash to drop his offer. Do not let this become like the Stills or Idrizi type of situation. Even if the kid commits here, he is going to be looking elsewhere. It looks worse when a guy commits here and then goes to a different school than not committing here at all.
With that logic we should have pulled Peppers offer, Gary's offer, and Fitzpatrick, wimbush, etc
 

RU_WL

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Don't really view Lovett as a program maker or breaker. -He's a good back and would be a nice/decent addition to this class, (if he actually appeared to want to be here), but clearly that isn't the vibe he's giving off.

Hey, it's his decision and he's going to do what he, and/or his "advisors", think is best for him. -But personally, I'm getting tired of this kid's act and I wouldn't mind at all if the RU staff finally told him enough is enough and we moved on.

JMO, of course, but that's how I've come to feel about this situation.

If you take a look at the juco rb from Arizona, he and Lovett have similar running style;however, Lovett is taller and has 4 years to play.
 

Scarlet_Scourge

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He doesn't want to come here. he rather have schools in his final 5 for whom he doesn't even have a committable offer from just to try to make himself seem like a bigger deal that he is.

Look it would be nice if he did come here, we need HBs, but he even if he did he would look to transfer as soon as he wasn't named the starter. He appears to be one of those guys.

So, it is time to move on.
 

RUMBA-JK

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I just wonder where his parents and HC are in all of this or if he is that bonkers.
I don't think Lovett is coming here. Don't pull his offer, that's a Flood move.

Agree - on both - can't imagine the HC is enjoying all of this thrashing about

Play it straight - stay classy - it is less about any one recruit & more about the name that is built for the program - AND the perceptions that are burned into the memory of the various HC's - High School coaching staffs know who the 'high character' programs are - and conversely, who is simply running a meat market & is just as fickle as can be.

- build a reputation as a stand-up program (even when getting jerked around) and before long there will be more & more High School coaches praising & strongly telling their kids - "it is a class program - good school - you will be treated with respect you will not be just another cog in the machine - it is a good choice"
- and they will tell them - "You can go where ever you desire - but if you don't want to go to RU - fine - but be straight with them - don't jerk them around - because we try to run a stand-up program here - and will continue to do so long after you are gone - I want RU to think highly of future players from this program"
 

Perricone7

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With the growth of high school recruiting and social media, I'm slowly evolving into one of those "I don't look at recruiting until February" people. The speed at which college football moves in regards to coaching changes, commit-able offers, new offers popping up out of the blue, grown men contacting you in the internet; it must be such an overwhelming process for a 17 year old.
 
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MorrisAsh

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The kid de-committed after PSU offered. Then PSU backed away. That being said, he's not coming here. He's probably Iowa-bound.
There used to be an unspoken rule that if a kid gives a verbal to another school in your conference, you don't give him an offer after his verbal. I guess that doesn't apply in the Big 10.
 

JerseyShoreKnight

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The kid de-committed after PSU offered. Then PSU backed away. That being said, he's not coming here. He's probably Iowa-bound.
There used to be an unspoken rule that if a kid gives a verbal to another school in your conference, you don't give him an offer after his verbal. I guess that doesn't apply in the Big 10.

You can thank Urban Meyer for that.
 

Burton12

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Not trying to be a deeK but I couldn't give two sheets about 247.

I'm not on payroll there, so no offense taken. But from one Penn Stater to another, if you care about reading the most accurate and timely PSU recruiting news, you're doing yourself a disservice by giving zero sheets.
 

Burton12

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The kid de-committed after PSU offered. Then PSU backed away. That being said, he's not coming here. He's probably Iowa-bound.
There used to be an unspoken rule that if a kid gives a verbal to another school in your conference, you don't give him an offer after his verbal. I guess that doesn't apply in the Big 10.

"Backed away" probably isn't fair to the kid. Our staff likes him as a player, but we're running up against the 85 limit at this point and are still in the mix for a few other guys who are higher priorities.
 

fbc1866

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It is all part of the game. The main reason why coaches want to go to the pros is because you don't recruit. There is no easy way to recruit.
 

RUsojo

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This kid de-committed after his Penn State "offer". Then he didn't commit. Penn St played him. But they are in the position to do what they want.

Lovett is a Cherokee kid. He's going to Penn St if he can.
 
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miketd1

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Apparently your HC just offered one of our commits. Savage.
I'm saying the gentleman's agreement should never have been broken. It was one of the classier things that used to differentiate the Big Ten from the other conferences.

It's water under the bridge at this point.

The standards have been lowered.
 

KJB32812

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I'm saying the gentleman's agreement should never have been broken. It was one of the classier things that used to differentiate the Big Ten from the other conferences.

It's water under the bridge at this point.

The standards have been lowered.

Wasn't it Bert who lost it over this?
 

KJB32812

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I'm saying the gentleman's agreement should never have been broken. It was one of the classier things that used to differentiate the Big Ten from the other conferences.

It's water under the bridge at this point.

The standards have been lowered.

It definitely isn't a gentleman's league any longer. Rumor is that Harbaugh told a PSU kid and his parents that they didn't want to send their kid (6'5, 300+) to PSU because he might be a victim of pedo. Not sure if true or not but I wouldn't put it past that kook.
 
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miketd1

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kjb: The unfortunate thing about lowering standards is there is an apparent ratcheting effect.

Once they've been lowered, they tend not to go back.
 

blazebro

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Lester Erb and Jerry Kill are going to visit Lovett today, probably as a last ditch effort after seeing his new top 5 to try and pull him in for one more unofficial before he decides. We'll see if it helps...
 

Scarlet_Scourge

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Urban killed that old gentlemen's handshake deal. He brought that SEC cutthroat recruiting style to the Big Ten. At 1st the Big Ten HC were shocked and now everyone does it.

Harbaugh then took recruiting to another level with his camps that even had the SEC crying foul and sent them running to the NCAA to change the rules.
 
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KJB32812

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Urban killed that old gentlemen's handshake deal. He brought that SEC cutthroat recruiting style to the Big Ten. At 1st the Big Ten HC were shocked and now everyone does it.

Harbaugh then took recruiting to another level with his camps that even had the SEC crying foul and sent them running to the NCAA to change the rules.

Don't forget the sleepovers.

I know people are going to say I'm in no position to comment but those just seem weird to me.
 
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