Izzo to resign

kybassfan

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You mean the uncaa?

Well, in an effort to be rigorous, that organization you are referring to as the UNCAA, I lovingly call The Filth. I generally refer to the NCAA as the Most Corrupt NCAA so as to avoid confusion. I agree that when one completely loses any sense of ethics, these terms are very difficult to keep straight. It is difficult to tell one piece of crap from another.
 

gojvc

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I have to agree. Folks need to step back and let the facts come out. Its entirely possible that this may turn into a "shoot everyone in sight of Nassar" type of exercise.

I'd take issue with you last sentence. The accused don't just have rights. In the US, they are presumed innocent until guilty.
I agree. 99.999999% of the people in America have no idea who Nassar is. You don’t have a big story unless you can drag Izzo and Dantonio into it. Is that what’s happening here? I don’t know. But fairness demands we be careful about rushing to judgment.
 

fisherscat

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I need to read up on this, so forgive the ignorance, but how would the bball and football (or most any other) coach know whats going on with a doctor who is treating gymnasts? I suppose you might hear "whispers" but trying to understand their complicity. In PSU case these were ADs and administrators associated with the football program.
 
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docholiday51

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You are kidding? They could have video of him molesting nuns, and he would come out of it unscathed. The only thing that will get him out of Durham, is father time, and, unlike the NCAA, it shows no favoritism.
I was about to say something similar(I was going to use shoot the Pope at mid court) but I'm pretty sure he could do both and be o k
 

fuzz77

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I teach my management teams this constantly - once you have information, or receive information, regarding any behavior or practice that may be a violation of policy or procedure (and especially the acutual law), you have to report that information immediately. If your supervisor doesn't take action, report to the next person up. In doing this, not only do you retain your ability to manage and lead, you place that burden on someone who can do something about it. By looking the other way, or ignoring that information, even if you just don't want to be involved, it becomes your problem. And that leads to you being responsible.
As an old boss of mine once said... "Bad news does not get better with time."
 

shaolin style

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I need to read up on this, so forgive the ignorance, but how would the bball and football (or most any other) coach know whats going on with a doctor who is treating gymnasts? I suppose you might hear "whispers" but trying to understand their complicity. In PSU case these were ADs and administrators associated with the football program.

Again, this is about MUCH more than Nassar.
 

CarolinaCatsFan

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I need to read up on this, so forgive the ignorance, but how would the bball and football (or most any other) coach know whats going on with a doctor who is treating gymnasts? I suppose you might hear "whispers" but trying to understand their complicity. In PSU case these were ADs and administrators associated with the football program.

Nassar worked at Michigan State. Higher ups at the University were hiding his crimes. In investigating what MSU was hiding against Nassar — they realized they were hiding crimes committed in the football and basketball departments.
 

Anon1658882690

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Glad I work in a coal mines.. It's like Vegas under there.. What goes on under there,, stays under there.. Nothing is brought outside to know about.. Way I like it..
 
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I need to read up on this, so forgive the ignorance, but how would the bball and football (or most any other) coach know whats going on with a doctor who is treating gymnasts? I suppose you might hear "whispers" but trying to understand their complicity. In PSU case these were ADs and administrators associated with the football program.

More immediate here is that MSU appears to have an overall lack of understanding that protecting its student body from sexual assault is important. Or that when faced with issues such as Nassar (or the Payne/Appling charge), they retreat and pretend nothing happened. Or worse, prove they knew it happened, and just make the accused tell his mommy he made a mistake and call it a day.

This isn't about coaches covering for a sexual predator; it's about coaches not doing the right thing when presented with the opportunity.
 
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docholiday51

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UNC is laughing their asses off,they couldn't buy this kind of publicity.
Yes they are,FBI investigation,UL ,UCONN Mich St,KU. Shucks,we just down here playing a little basketball with these kids,they go to class about once a week and make good grades,says Roy
 

kyjeff1

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Kind of a coincidence, but I drove up to Michigan today because my wife's grandfather is/was in hospice (passed today at noon, was 100 years old), but I'm sitting in a very large room filled with Michigan State fans and they are stunned.
Tonight's game will be very interesting.
 

TBCat

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I need to read up on this, so forgive the ignorance, but how would the bball and football (or most any other) coach know whats going on with a doctor who is treating gymnasts? I suppose you might hear "whispers" but trying to understand their complicity. In PSU case these were ADs and administrators associated with the football program.
What is being said is that it goes much deeper than the doctor that treated gymnasts. That might be what opened pandora's box but it's not the end of the story. There are already allegations of abuse and sexual assault that Izzo did know about and covered up already being reported.
 

BMoore2

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I don't know that certain other coaches who may have squeaky clean images are safe if this stuff is happening. Lotta powerful people from the schools that have gotten hit so far, yet they could do nothing to protect the coaches involved. If the FBI or media are after you, there is no fortune 500 CEO in the world that can stop the train.
 

BMoore2

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The other shoe will eventually drop at UNC, and if Coach Krackybacky is cheating at Dewk, I promise Coach Cal knows and will prevail.
 
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catzcan

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This is pretty shocking. I thought that Izzo was supposed to be above this kind of mess.
 

docholiday51

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I don't know that certain other coaches who may have squeaky clean images are safe if this stuff is happening. Lotta powerful people from the schools that have gotten hit so far, yet they could do nothing to protect the coaches involved. If the FBI or media are after you, there is no fortune 500 CEO in the world that can stop the train.
K skated right by it with Sulaimon a few years ago,don't say it can't be done because K already did.
 

BMoore2

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He wasn't messing with Cal's livelihood when he did that. I promise you (read: I really, really hope) that Cal isn't going to go without a fight. Plus, we know what happened to the last coach who messed with Cal.
 

SemperFiCat

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Kind of a coincidence, but I drove up to Michigan today because my wife's grandfather is/was in hospice (passed today at noon, was 100 years old), but I'm sitting in a very large room filled with Michigan State fans and they are stunned.
Tonight's game will be very interesting.
100? That's a good run. That's when you celebrate a life, not mourn a passing. My condolences.