IU/UK is back
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What changes things is UK won it all in 2012. What was different is UK made the best of their win in 2012 and won a title and in 2016 IU flopped as usual. UK is Indians's super bowl and they can't continue to win in the NCAA tourney after a win against UK, Indiana is just another team to UK and we will continue on to the next game.
Shows how delusional you are to say Trayce Jackson is equal to Oscar. Have you forgotten that Oscar was national player of the year last year. How many votes did Trayce get? This shows you are void of common sense. Go back to the IU board.
I have a question for the IU fans. I must confess, the last 30 years of UK basketball have been fun. There has been numerous conference championships and SEC tourney titles, several Final Fours and three National Championships. We watched as UK continued to be, along with Duke, NC and KS, the preeminent teams in college basketball. IU fans, how have the Hoosier been doing?
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So winning a title after playing IU is irrelevant. Shows how much you know about basketball. It is only irrelevant to IU since they haven't won a title in decades.
Trayce being equal to Oscar is actually not that far off. Having Hood equal to Wallace and Reneau equal to Collins and Toppin is way more laughable.
Tracye Jackson didn't even win player of the year in the BIG 10 last year. He is good but nowhere on the level of Oscar.
Lol. When your team has only been past the Sweet 16 once since April, 1993 and won nothing -not even a conference tournament - in 35 long, painful years, I suppose all NCAA tournament games are equal.
For Kentucky fans, wins that lead to championships (2012) or Final Fours/Final Games (1975) matter more than one that leads to a blow-out loss in the next round.
Every time I type that I find myself laughing out loud. Kentucky has been at least as far as the Elite Eight SIXTEEN TIMES and won three championships while playing in eight Final Fours in the span that Indiana has gotten past the Sweet 16 once and won nothing. Damn is that pathetic.
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I couldn't care less about playing Indiana but a lot of our fans wanted this so whatever. Some of the same people bashing calipari for doing it though are also some of the same posters that bashed him for not continuing the series when it came up on here over the last few years.
Blah, blah and blah....
Question was, "what team won when it mattered"---Are you telling me the 2nd round game in 2016 didn't matter?
Again----the question was---"what team won when it mattered"----Are you saying the 2nd round game in 2016 didn't matter?
So UK's goal in 2016 wasn't to win the title? Or IU's? So the 2nd round game in 2016 was meaningless----didn't matter?
Gotcha.
I guess last years 1st round loss to St. Peter's didn't matter, either-----right?
Yep, I vividly recall the epic battle between Trayce and Oscar last year on who would be national player of the year. A real toss up as I remmeber.
Neither team had a legit shot at a title in 2016. Unc was beating either with ease.
Uk was the clear favorite in 2012 and if Indiana beat UK they may have won it all.
Some ncaa wins have more value than others.
As of today it means little since we lost. On to this year. UK's goal is to at least make the final four and ultimately a title every year. If we lose then we can't accomplish either goal. I realize it has been so long since IU won even a conference title that any win means a lot to you guys.
IU last won the Big 10 in 2016....
Hoosiers have been **** for 20+ years....
That means nothing----I worry about 2023-----not what has or has not happened in the past 20 years.
Best answer yet----And I 100% agree. But when a the question is, "what team lwon when it mattered---not when it mattered the most, the answer is both...And TBH, winning in the NCAAT matters...rather you have a chance to win the title, or not.
Best of luck this year....
That is why last years loss to St. Peters is history. This year is what counts now.
This is just one reason I'm not a fan of renewing this series. The first game is like 3 years away and the delusional talk has already started.
This thread full of gems from IU fans demonstrates the reason the series is a bad idea. The fans of a team that has been completely irrelevant to college basketball since the Reagan administration wants to come to our Board and lecture us about their great team and program. It is exactly this type of attitude manifested in abhorrent behavior from their fans that caused the series to be cancelled. It so gnaws at the souls of IU fans that they are not us that it resulted in the situation that occurred at their place where the safety of visiting players, coaches and fans was very much in question. I encourage folks to go back and watch a replay of the game and the videos posted online to see what came close to a fan melee. Renewing a series with that fan base is unwise when there are so many more teams that have much higher profiles and fans that act reasonably.
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@MdWildcat
Your passion against IU is why this rivalry needs to be restarted.
You do know the Big Ten Tourney was only started around 20 years ago right?
It weakens your argument/rant when every one of your posts makes it sound like you don't know this.....
Your passion against IU is why this rivalry needs to be restarted.
You do know the Big Ten Tourney was only started around 20 years ago right?
It weakens your argument/rant when every one of your posts makes it sound like you don't know this.....
Yep....I don't get into the, "what have you done the past 10, 20 years"---Its meaningless. It has no bearing on this year.
Good luckthis season. Hope dudes get healthy, and get the damn injury **** out of the way..
How we received your post (you're the guy on the left):IU has won two of the past 3.....
"We"? Maybe YOU and a few other "softies"---For the most part, its been good discussion.How we received your post (you're the guy on the left):
Since you don’t get it, let me attempt an explanation. The fans of the all time great programs put a lot of stock in things like National Championships, Final Fours, all time wins, etc. When fans of other programs that are not among the all time greats come to our board and start saying but…but…but look at us this year, we know it’s just another wannabe seeking validation or wanting to be at the grown-ups table.
The place to seek validation is on the court. Go win the Big 10 and get to the Final Four. Until then, have the good grace not to be a pest to the people at the grown-ups’ table.
You do know I'm not a Louisville fan, right?
IU actually IS among the all-time greats:
4th with 5 National titles
8th in Final Fours(8)
7th in NCAAT wins (67)
6th in NCAAT appearances(40)
10th in all-time wins(1,890)
And thats with sucking *** for 25 years...
What validation do I need to seek? I'm just here talking hoops....Dudes like you are the ones derailing basketball chatter with insults, jabs, etc, etc....
Sorry facts hurt your feelings....If me posting here bothers you bro, put me on ignore---Pretty easy solution.
wow guy, so many low standards I can taste it. Congrats on proving that your fan base really is throwing parades over very minor victories.
I shouldn’t have to explain this but I will.
2012, we had only two losses - one to Indiana on a buzzer beater that you still make popcorn boxes commemorating. Your season was already a success in your fan bases’ mind. If UK had lost in the S16, our season would have been a failure. That’s the difference in the stakes - you’re happy to be there, we’re here to win it and nothing else matters.
2016, sure we beat Duke, sure we won the SEC. Whatever. Nice and all, but that’s just a baseline. That’s what we expect. It was clear that team wasn’t going anywhere. We have championship expectations, and we knew that team was unacceptable at the end of the day. Unlike Indiana who still are obsessed with beating one of our weakest teams in the second round.
bottom line, what you consider a wild success is failure to us. We are not the same.
Never said it was a success-----Just answered the question asked: "Who won when it mattered". I guess that game in 2016 didn't matter b/c there were no expectations,since it was CLEAR that team was going nowhere....Thats cool..
But curious...............You say that game didn't matter because there were no expectations, it was clear team was going nowhere---right?
Cool. Did you have expectations in 2011,when UK was a 4-seed? What about in 2014 as an 8-seed? Did you enter the tournament in 2011 and 14 with expectations----high hopes? Just curious.