In or Out?
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It's never been this bad, never. Nothing comes close. The Shea era was better as bad as that was.
No. And that had no future. We were way on the outside looking in. That was a time when more than a few thought it would never ever happen.
There is a future now, financially and being in a real legit conference that was never there before. What we do with it when we get closer is up to the collective us.
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There is no future now unless they fire Ash and that is just a start. Financially Athletics is way worse than Mulchay and Schiano years. Barchi will suck back Big Ten funds so we are in a nightmare scenario until he is gone.
During the Shea years Rutgers wasn't getting blown out by D2 teams or crap teams. Rutgers has been smoked by EMU and Buffalo and a Kansas team that will fire there coach.
This is Rutgers lowest point ever.
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That would be pointless.
Ash is coming back. That, as much as anything, is the point of the thread. Hobbs has done the math, which may or may not include some number of variables that we're not privy to. Regardless, there's no "if", here. He'll be back for '19. If the folks in this thread who say they won't be renewing in the event are, in fact, telling the truth then we have a sense of what the stadium will look like next season.
If Ash stays, or is canned and the replacement is uninspiring: Strongly considering dropping from 4 to 0. Had dropped from 6 to 4 this past offseason.
If that happens, will probably re-direct donation funds to other sports.
If that happens, will probably re-direct donation funds to other sports.
Two stadium expansions. Hale Center completely redone. Baseball and track fields and practice fields. Upgrades at the soccer field. And the biggest thing that was built was a nationally ranked football team with the most watched, at the time, a Thursday night game now called Pandemonium in Piscataway. Bowl games almost every year. Front Page of every NJ and NYC paper. Empire State Building lit in Scarlet. Yeah you are right nothing happened [eyeroll]
I didn’t say nothing happened, I asked a question and not all of those things where built during the precise time you referenced.
But we can’t discount the stuff coming online though either. That’s the future.
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The first Stadium expansion was was paid entirely by the NJSEA. And the boss/chairmen of that who pushed it through was? ... Yes Rutgers future AD Uncle Bob! The rest pretty much him as AD. The program had no structure before Schiano. The Athletic Academic support was 100% a Schiano thing but became a sports wide support because of him. Greg Brown although a supporter of Rutgers didn't open his wallet until Bob and Greg. Your hatred and disrespect of those two is well noted but you can't argue that they created the highest high water mark of Rutgers Athletics. Rutgers was a story, positive story like never seen before. Now we are a national joke.
No hatred. Not sure where you get that idea? Glad where we are in B1G picture because of what was done during that time.
I just don’t submit there is no future.
My group of ten discussed this last week. If Ash is back, all ten of us are out. If Schiano comes back we are in. Anyone else and we’ll have to evaluate. The games just have not been fun to watch at all during the Ash era. I’m not going to the Penn State game, there is just zero entertainment once you enter the stadium.
Well your post prior give zero credit to Bob Mulcahy or Greg Schiano. Which is either hatred or ignorance. Those two deserve a ton of credit for many things positive at RU during their time. Yes you can be critical of some short comings but your posts are completely ignoring all of the great things. Rutgers Athletics were never better before them or after them.
And until Barchi is gone there is no future. If the President of any college has zero interest in sports you are doomed.
We currently have 14 tickets. I have talked to a some of our crew, but not all, and 'm guessing we might lose a couple, but not more than that, as most still seem interested, probably because our crew is not filled with fanatics, but rather, people who have just as much fun with the tailgates as the games. Even if everyone abandoned ship, I'd keep at least my original 2 tickets (which I've had since the early 90s when I stopped getting free tix from grad students I knew), because I'm a Rutgers Football Fan.
Keeping your tickets doesn't make you a better Rutgers Football fan than those who don't. You just rather spend your time in a parking lot than elsewhere
I asked a question. You provided an answer.
The sad part is if in the future we end up hanging our hat on a red ESB and all of us running onto the field as our “highlights” or zenith, well IMO that’s a failure.
Hopefully that’s just a nice memory someday.
We all want a better future. I will be thrilled to make a bowl game some year soon. I'm 57 years old. Waited 30 years for a season like 2006. Can't wait another 30 for the next. Also as time flys by you realize your free time is like gold. It shouldn't be spent being miserable and cost you a fortune for the aggravation. There is much happier times being away from watching an 1-11 team.
Don’t you remember that Coors beer tasted better when you couldn’t buy it here?
For a Bowl game we had to fight tooth and nail to get on TV back here? LOL (that’s a joke, son)
Did I have a fun time that year? And a fun time in Houston? You betcha.
But as electric as that November night was I felt like my seat was hooked up to a generator for the time where State Penn was an actual conference game.
I glance back and smile, but look forward.
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My group is thinking the $1k we spend on each home game would be enjoyed more at a bar.
It's about time the horse came out. Its closeted gay schtick of prancing about was getting old...
You really have trouble with comprehension. Where did I say I was a better football fan? I just said I'm an RU football fan, meaning I love RU football and enjoy going to RU football games, even if we suck. I'd obviously prefer being good and have emailed Hobbs expressing my displeasure, but I have no intention of dropping my tickets. And I said the others in my group will likely stay because they really enjoy the social aspect of tailgating. I do too, but I never said it's my prime motivation (only you did) - in fact, like I said, if everyone dropped out, I'd still go to the games, because the games are my primary motivation, not the tailgates.
Just as a point of debate, I think it does. This isn't meant to be offensive, and lord knows keeping season tix or not is not really meaningful to someone who is 10,000 miles away, but I think the person stays in during the really bad times is a better fan than one who does not.
What do others think?
If true Hobbs needs to go too then. He cannot handle the next search if he signed a contract with Ash that he has no way out of. That is a fatal mistake that would be the only reason to keep a coach that if merit were the only consideration would have been gone weeks ago like Kansas and now Louisville have done.
Nobody forced Hobbs to guarantee Ash more than $15 million.
I think there is no virtue in being a better fan.
We should seek our better life. Better use of money. Better use of time. Better to let market forces influence direction.
Better fans give admin the impression there is no urgency.
I didn't say there was virtue in being a better fan. But I do think that someone who sticks with the program and attends games in the worst of times is arguably a better fan than someone who gives up.
I know a lot of people are torn over this issue, and it certainly may be the case that not supporting the program financially will bring about change faster than supporting the program at this point.
But if attendance falls under 10k per game, and I think it could, I would consider the people who are out there to be the better fans.