If I'm Keli...

NBKnight

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I'm calling James Franklin.

Keli: Hello, James. I want to offer you an opportunity to stay in the B1G
JF: I'm listening.
Keli: We don't have buy-out and new signing money, but hear me out.
JF: I'm still listening
Keli: You're getting $50 mil. Come here for a couple of million a year so we can pay top dollar for your staff and pay Greg's buyout
JF: I'm still listening.
Keli: We'll give you a 5-year deal, full of incentives. If we part ways within the first 5 years, your buyout will be healthy.
JF: How healthy?
Keli: Let's talk
PSU would sue both Rutgers and Franklin if we paid him less than market.
 

NBKnight

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His buyout specifies he needs to get his market value. This deal doesn’t work. PSU is going to pay almost nothing if he takes a P4 HC job.
I don’t why this is so hard for people to understand. It does not do the coach’s former school any good if he accepts a job for less than market value. That the whole point of requiring the coach to look for a new job in the contract is to get the payout offset.
 

NBKnight

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Can start here:


Rutgers University's nepotism clause
prohibits hiring or supervising family members in a way that creates a supervisor/subordinate relationship, a conflict of interest, or the appearance of a conflict. Employees cannot be involved in personnel decisions, such as hiring or promotion, that directly affect a family member. The policy applies to both staff and faculty and is based on avoiding favoritism and maintaining objectivity in employment and academic decisions.

Key provisions of the Rutgers nepotism clause
  • No supervisory roles over family: A family member cannot be in a position to supervise or have hiring authority over another family member.
    • Avoidance of conflicts of interest: The policy prohibits relationships that could create an actual or perceived conflict of interest.
    • No participation in personnel decisions:Employees must not participate in or influence any decision that could affect a family member's appointment, tenure, promotion, salary, or other status.
    • Disclosure and self-recusal: Employees are expected to voluntarily step away from any personnel decisions involving a family member.
    • Scope: The policy applies to both faculty and staff employment.
So you think Greg did not permission to hire his sons?
 

kupuna133

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So you think Greg did not permission to hire his sons?
Who knows who granted the permission. Just odd that there is clearly anti nepotism policies in place and that they were not applied or circumvented on multiple fronts.
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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Who knows who granted the permission. Just odd that there is clearly anti nepotism policies in place and that they were not applied or circumvented on multiple fronts.
I believe most schools have those policies but in athletics it tends to be looser. Look around at other schools, you will see similar. Ferentz and Beamer had their kids on the staff, for example.

Additionally, the RU softball coach’s husband is on her staff. I believe WBB hired two coaches from UCLA who are married to each other.
 

Knight Shift

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1. Policy Statement​


Members of the same family or household may be selected for faculty and staff positions when it has been determined that they are qualified for the position and their selection does not conflict with the provisions of this policy.

Members of the same family or household may be selected for faculty and staff positions when it has been determined that they are qualified for the position and their selection does not conflict with the provisions of this policy.
 

Retired711

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1. Policy Statement​


Members of the same family or household may be selected for faculty and staff positions when it has been determined that they are qualified for the position and their selection does not conflict with the provisions of this policy.

Members of the same family or household may be selected for faculty and staff positions when it has been determined that they are qualified for the position and their selection does not conflict with the provisions of this policy.
If you continue to read the statement, you will see "Members of the same family or household may not be selected for faculty or staff positions if selection would create a supervisor/subordinate relationship between family and household members." (third paragraph of #6) Is the Director of Player Personnel a subordinate of GS?? If the son isn't entirely in the football program, then maybe he's not.
 

kupuna133

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I believe most schools have those policies but in athletics it tends to be looser. Look around at other schools, you will see similar. Ferentz and Beamer had their kids on the staff, for example.

Additionally, the RU softball coach’s husband is on her staff. I believe WBB hired two coaches from UCLA who are married to each other.
Big difference with Beamer and Ferentz. Both fathers have been quotes as saying that their sons had to prove themselves other places before they were allowed to join their staffs. Ferentz played in the NFL and worked on numerous staffs prior to joining his father. Beamer coached for 10 years in the SEC before coming back to Va tech. The other coaches are established and have a resume. The Schiano hires are the definition of nepotism.
 
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Knight Shift

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But if you continue to read the statement, you will see "Members of the same family or household may not be selected for faculty or staff positions if selection would create a supervisor/subordinate relationship between family and household members." (third paragraph of #6)
A "good" or perhaps a "bad" lawyer will cherry pick the portions of a statute or case that fits their narrative! Kidding aside, supervisor/subordinate, may not include "head coach" and whatever lower level roles are assigned to various assistants who may be supervised by position coaches or coordinators. Do you agree?
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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If you continue to read the statement, you will see "Members of the same family or household may not be selected for faculty or staff positions if selection would create a supervisor/subordinate relationship between family and household members." (third paragraph of #6) Is the Director of Player Personnel a subordinate of GS?? If the son isn't entirely in the football program, then maybe he's not.
It says faculty or staff meaning the academic and operations side of the university. It doesn’t address athletics specifically.
 

Knight Shift

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It says faculty or staff meaning the academic and operations side of the university. It doesn’t address athletics specifically.
Athletics is Staff, the AD, and all subordinates: all four Schianos are listed as part of the Athletics "staff."

3. Who Should Read This Policy​


All members of the Rutgers University community
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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So an AD is taking credit for its football success on the back of a coach who brought in JMU transfers? They demanded 13 Mil? Lol

is it possible the AD is peacocking to position themselves as important and looking for a contract themselves?

Similary AD’s and coaches not having success will blame the fans for lack of money.

I call BS with transparency will come answers.
Eric O'Neil was a better player at JMU than he's been at RU so far. Quite a few of those JMU transfers have been impact players at Indiana. I wonder why that is?

#Coaching Matters.
 
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Knight Shift

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Eric O'Neil was a better player at JMU than he's been at RU so far. Quite a few of those JMU transfers have been impact players at Indiana. I wonder why that is?

#Coaching Matters.
Usually we agree, but I think he is dealing wiht B1GGER and Stronger players int he B1G.

Size matters, but don't tell my better half.
 
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rutgersguy2

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This is basketball but can’t say that I’ve seen pharma companies in sports marketing before.

 

rutgersguy2

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There are a lot of fat people in the South.

People here say Pharma companies will not spend money on college athletics.
I would be one of those people lol. This is the first time I can think of where I’ve seen pharma marketing in sports like this.

I brought it up and posted it here specifically for that reason.

Eli Lilly anyone lol…that’s the other behemoth in weight loss drugs
 

Knight Shift

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Andrew Aurich left Rutgers in 2023 as TE coach. Maybe Greg was holding him back?
In his first season as head ball coach, he won the Ivy League championship, becoming the first Harvard coach to ever win an Ivy championship in his first season. He's currently 6-0 and on his way to 7-0.
He runs a slappin' Red Zone Offense too.

 

rutgersguy2

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This is what I've been saying here a bunch of times. Without transparency, you can't really trust all the numbers and headlines you see out there. It can be real, misleading or outright lies...no way to know.....and this is even for people operating in the space let alone outsiders.

 
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LotusAggressor_rivals

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Andrew Aurich left Rutgers in 2023 as TE coach. Maybe Greg was holding him back?
In his first season as head ball coach, he won the Ivy League championship, becoming the first Harvard coach to ever win an Ivy championship in his first season. He's currently 6-0 and on his way to 7-0.
He runs a slappin' Red Zone Offense too.


Maybe he has some idea what a TE does.
 
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Knight Shift

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I agree with you, but Franklin is not the only option.


I'm going to keep posting this until it is understood that firing Greg this year is NOT that costly. "Only" $14M over 5 years years versus keeping him if we hire an up and coming coach from the MAC or another G5 league or even Mora at $4M/year. Manny Diaz is making $4M/year at Duke, a P5 school and winning.

As of December 1, 2025, Rutgers would owe him a buyout of $23,318,750 if terminated without cause.

As of November 2025, the scheduled base salaries for the remaining years are as follows (note that these correspond to the contract periods covering the respective seasons, and the 2030 season salary is capped at the final amount per the extension terms):

YearBase Salary
2026$6,750,000
2027$7,250,000
2028$7,500,000
2029$7,750,000
2030$7,750,000
These figures exclude any potential bonuses or incentives. The total remaining base salary obligation across these years is $37,000,000.


That difference is $14M over 5 years, nominally $3M per year in savings. Hire an up and coming coach for $4M per year, and Rutgers is only paying an additional $1M per year. This does not factor in the lost donations and sales of season tickets as fans lose interest in the same old same old.

#CoachingMatters
Another quality coach hired at $4M/year.

 
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