Nah, I never really read that forum before - only when I'm exceptionally bored at the office.
Hungary Election
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It wasn't that hard to follow if you were even a little bit interested, which I was because Trump spent so much time courting and promoting Orban and wanted to model our government after Hungary's. The election emphatically showed Trump it was all a fool's errand and if he tries it here, they'll get the same result in the 2028 election.
This journalist spells it out well:
Jim Heath
"On the banks of the Danube, with Hungary’s Parliament glowing across the river, Péter Magyar stepped onto the stage and delivered a moment that felt bigger than politics.
For two years, he’s been speaking in town squares across the country. Last night, he spoke to the world.
Borrowing from John F. Kennedy, he told the crowd they had won because they didn’t ask what their country could do for them—but what they could do for their country. The response came roaring back: “Ria-Ria-Hungaria.”
“It’s over, it’s over,” the crowd chanted, as Magyar declared the system that had taken hold of Hungary’s institutions finished—and offered something rare in moments like this: reconciliation. “Let this be a victory for all Hungarians.”
For more than a decade, Viktor Orbán reshaped Hungary into what he called an “illiberal democracy.” Courts were stacked with loyalists, election laws rewritten to favor his party, and a media system so dominated by the government that roughly 80% echoed his message. Elections remained—but the balance that makes them meaningful was steadily stripped away.
Which is why this election is a model for the world.
Turnout surged to nearly 78%, the highest in Hungary’s post-Communist history. When it became clear that democracy itself was on the line, voters didn’t sit it out—they showed up in force.
And they broke through.
Magyar, a conservative and former insider from Orbán’s own Fidesz party, wasn’t embraced because he was perfect. He was embraced because he was possible—a vehicle for voters who believed the system had been defined for too long by control and corruption.
This wasn’t just a Hungarian story.
Donald Trump had openly backed Orbán, and Vice President JD Vance was in Budapest just days before the vote, campaigning for him. Orbán had become a model for a MAGA style of politics built on control—of courts, media, and the rules themselves.
Hungary just rejected it.
In 204 days, it’s America’s turn."
Jim Heath
🚨 WHY HUNGARY JUST SHOOK TRUMP’S WORLD 🚨 On the banks of the Danube, with Hungary’s Parliament glowing across the river, Péter Magyar stepped onto the stage and delivered a moment that felt bigger...
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Those of us with sense recognized the relationship between Maga and Orban years ago, when the GOP started holding CPAC in Hungary.
I'm sure it never crossed any of your minds that it was unusual for one of the two major political parties of the United states to be holding it's America First conferences in a foreign country run by a dictator.
He is removing Hungary's veto of EU's Ukraine loan and clearly stating that Russia is the aggressor. Says he'll tell Putin it's his responsibility to stop the war. While Orban fear-mongered that Ukraine was going to attack them, lol.
Huge difference!
He is also going to Brussels to ask them to release the Hungarian funds that were blocked by the EU because of Orban.
Huge difference!
He is also going to Brussels to ask them to release the Hungarian funds that were blocked by the EU because of Orban.
Interesting, I wonder what skeletons may be unearthed here.
Newly-Elected Hungarian PM Says Orbán Was Paying CPAC, Calls It a ‘Crime’ That ‘Will Have to Be Investigated’ - Yahoo News UK https://share.google/2wBahyc5YZ6T5eaWj
Newly-Elected Hungarian PM Says Orbán Was Paying CPAC, Calls It a ‘Crime’ That ‘Will Have to Be Investigated’ - Yahoo News UK https://share.google/2wBahyc5YZ6T5eaWj
Shocker, direct foreign influence
newrepublic.com
Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC
Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.
newrepublic.com
It's not like they could afford it either. Looks like Magyar is about to open a can of whoop *** over the corruption of the last 16 years and I'm here for it.Shocker, direct foreign influence
Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC
Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.
Here's what happened ... you had no clue what was going on. You assumed no one else had a clue what was going on, so you wrongfully assumed everyone celebrating this did so because they thought the new Hungarian government was U.S.'esque Dem/progressive, after you quickly googled "WTF is Hungary?".
When you realized you were the idiot in the room, you couldn't pull out of your death spiral, so you doubled and tripled down.
And everyone is pointing and laughing at you.
Psychological Research Finds Trump Supporters Are Not Doing Well https://share.google/Gco2YJqzA1cF1OfmK
The funny thing is he believes Magyar is anti-gay because he's center-right when that's not remotely true. He tries to avoid culture war issues in order to appeal to all Hungarians but he's said in the past he supports their right to hold parades and he is removing the laws Orban put in place that criminalize them, among other things. Center-right means what it sounds like, he's basically a moderate Republican politically speaking.
Mitch McConnell Trolls Trump and Vance Over Anti-Orbán Landslide in Fox News Op-Ed
Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) trolled the commander-in-chief and his right hand man over the defeat of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán on Monday.
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Viktor Orban didn’t cancel any elections and never arrested people for social media posts. He also stepped down after his election loss and is partaking in a peaceful transfer of power.
But, don’t forget, he was a dictator.
Keir Starmer attempted to cancel about 1,000 local council elections next month and arrests about 12,000 people a year for social media posts. He also refused to let a rival run for a seat in a by-election because he was worried it would be a threat to his leadership.
But, don’t forget, he’s a democratic leader.
But, don’t forget, he was a dictator.
Keir Starmer attempted to cancel about 1,000 local council elections next month and arrests about 12,000 people a year for social media posts. He also refused to let a rival run for a seat in a by-election because he was worried it would be a threat to his leadership.
But, don’t forget, he’s a democratic leader.
MTTiger19 said:
Right. And I’m sure this dumb board is filled with international political pundits that follow every move of the Hungarian election. Stfu dork.
“Here's what happened ... you had no clue what was going on. You assumed no one else had a clue what was going on, so you wrongfully assumed everyone celebrating this did so because they thought the new Hungarian government was U.S.'esque Dem/progressive, after you quickly googled "WTF is Hungary?".
When you realized you were the idiot in the room, you couldn't pull out of your death spiral, so you doubled and tripled down.
And everyone is pointing and laughing at you.
-SimplyComplicated aka Moogy
So this is today's coping point. That's a term I just came up with on the spot. It's a cross between coping and talking point.
That’s not my original thought. It’s a c&p of something obviously. I just thought it was somewhat relevant to the discussion. It’s odd how a real authoritarian gets a free pass from you guys. 12,000 people arrested for posting words on the internet?
It’s tongue in cheek my guy, I think it’s obvious what I meant. He’s not running around making special concessions for the alphabet. He’s normal. He’s not like a single democrat in office in America.
Unless Trump is attempting to model our government after theirs, it's not the same but yeah, it's stupid.
He will fit in fine with the rest of Europe, Orban did not.
Does Starmer? Would you agree that he and Starmer have very little in common? I really don’t care, but I think the insinuation was the world was shifting left and that doesn’t seem accurate. I understand yall are happy because it makes Trump “look bad”, which is really weird but ok. But this guy and the other leaders that are being elected all over the world would absolutely not sit on the left side of the aisle in America. Starmer would 100% be on your side. So what am I missing? The usual suspects here are super libs that voted for Kamala, this guy wouldn’t be in the same stratosphere as her, certainly not in his support of nationalism, rejection of entitlements, strict borders and remigration policies, rejection of identity politics - this is a conservative bro. How is this not obvious?
I think the Biden admin was censoring the hell out of people too, how soon we forget the twitter files.
Key revelations included the Biden team directly flagging tweets for removal (often “handled” quickly), suppression of the New York Post’s Hunter Biden laptop story ahead of the 2020 election, and broad FBI involvement in flagging thousands of accounts for “misinformation” on elections, COVID, and other topics—fueling claims of government-enabled censorship that disproportionately targeted conservative or dissenting views.
Ahhhhh. Well thanks I suppose. Would you tell his stupid *** the only one laughing is me, as I don’t see anything that dipshit posts so he’s just responding to ether. Apparently over and over and over. That’s awesome by the way, rent free baby!
It's 9 am on Wednesday, April 15, and Orban, who Trump thought he could get re-elected, still was thoroughly trounced in the election for Hungarian PM. That is all.
What special concessions are all non-Fetterman Dems making for the alphabet?
Yes, we've acknowledged that he's a conservative but not sure why you think a secure border is in opposition to Democratic policy. Biden mis-managed the border but that doesn't mean we approved of it and most lefties on the board acknowledge that Trump has done a good job there. I have no idea about his stance on entitlements or identity politics and not sure it's well-known or relevant.
I haven't paid close attention to Starmer so not sure how that matters either way but I do know that Starmer and other European leaders are relieved that Orban is gone. Magyar will be willing to work with their leaders in a way that Orban would not.
It wasn't about the world moving left but moving away from an illiberal democracy that Trump wanted to emulate. This election proves that if he tries, the people will revolt.
Illiberal Democracy:
"using state power to win culture wars, weaken liberal institutions, and maintain long-term right-wing populist rule. His "illiberal democracy" is viewed as a blueprint for reversing progressive policies, controlling media, and installing conservative leadership in education"
LOL this is lame, sorry. Twitter briefly prevented the Post story from being shared but you could still read the actual story on the site as well as others, but a reminder that it didn't have anything on it that implicated Biden in a crime. The Right thought it did and that's why they made such a fuss about it. And trying to save lives by clamping down on straight misinformation and lies is something that normies have no problem with because we understood it. The horrror of these terrible things...oh my.
If you think Starmer is more of an autocrat than Orban then you have absolutely no clue what on earth you are talking. This is an absurdly ludicrous statement
Here’s a better question. Do straight white people get special treatment? Do they have parades? Do they get sidewalks painted? Do they get invited to the WH bc they’re white? How about required pronouns?
I’m almost positive all of them support gender affirmation - and using those bath rooms and locker rooms. Seems like a lot of special treatment for one’s sexuality.
One party idolizes identity politics. It ain’t the right. Are you trying to make an argument otherwise? The party of gender madness and DEI. How’s that controversial?
As someone pointed out, 20-40 years ago conservatives in the US would have celebrated a pro-Russia anti-Western/EU/NATO autocrat going down in flames. Instead you had a Republican VP campaigning for him
Why do straight white people need special treatment?Here’s a better question. Do straight white people get special treatment? Do they have parades? Do they get sidewalks painted? Do they get invited to the WH bc they’re white? How about required pronouns?
I’m almost positive all of them support gender affirmation - and using those bath rooms and locker rooms. Seems like a lot of special treatment for one’s sexuality.
One party idolizes identity politics. It ain’t the right. Are you trying to make an argument otherwise? The party of gender madness and DEI. How’s that controversial?
No, it isn't. The Democrats are more liberal on certain issues (LGBT rights, immigration, actually passing reform, not doing austerity) than many European liberal parties
Yeah, I was mainly wanting to point out how Democrats in the US are actually far more to the right than their European counterparts. It also doesn't hurt that most European nations have more than just 2 parties, so it's not an apples to apples comparison.