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Howie_Fartz

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Do we know what weight Sammy Sanchez projects at? Right now it looks like he’s going to hit the Raney/Raney/Jax/Vega logjam regardless of weight and would have to sit 2 years unless he wins a spot.

Unfortunately it doesn’t look like PSU has the same kind of roster crunch at their lower weights.
They do, just isnt talked about as much as there 57-74 issues.
 

okokzach

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Do we know what weight Sammy Sanchez projects at? Right now it looks like he’s going to hit the Raney/Raney/Jax/Vega logjam regardless of weight and would have to sit 2 years unless he wins a spot.

Unfortunately it doesn’t look like PSU has the same kind of roster crunch at their lower weights.
They have Lilledahl for 3 more years now and Blaze for 4 more, and they have Sidun and Burnett both coming in next year.
 

Travis25

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Plus the best wrestler in the world. So there's that.

Judging on a few nuggets from the Flo podcast, it sounds like Ono might not be everything PSU hoped for in folkstyle when it signed him. It is unclear to me if he will even crack the lineup. Could also just be the Flo guys playing coy because Cael told them to.
 
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Judging on a few nuggets from the Flo podcast, it sounds like Ono might not be everything PSU hoped for in folkstyle when it signed him. It is unclear to me if he will even crack the lineup. Could also just be the Flo guys playing coy because Cael told them to.
So he regressed from handily dominating the best guys in the world while in the PSU room?

Mmmmhmmm. Last I checked takedowns are a thing in folk. If he doesn't wrestle next year, something will be afoot that's not related to his quality as a wrestler.
 

alephpoke

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So he regressed from handily dominating the best guys in the world while in the PSU room?

Mmmmhmmm. Last I checked takedowns are a thing in folk. If he doesn't wrestle next year, something will be afoot that's not related to his quality as a wrestler.
Who said he regressed? He dominated in *freestyle* and has probably gotten a lot better at folkstyle since he entered their room - that doesn’t mean he’s better than Marcus Blaze at folk.

Even in neutral the two styles are very different, let alone the obvious differences on the mat.
 
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chasepollard

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So he regressed from handily dominating the best guys in the world while in the PSU room?

Mmmmhmmm. Last I checked takedowns are a thing in folk. If he doesn't wrestle next year, something will be afoot that's not related to his quality as a wrestler.
I'll disagree here. Folk and Free are not as similar as people seem to believe. I am not sure how to explain it, but there is a reason that every stud FS guy isn't jumping on airplanes to come Wrestle NCAA Folkstyle.

Rin Sakamoto is the example I am going with...he couldn't crack the lineup. Now, he isn't Ono, but he is dynamic in neutral on par with the best guys in the world. Mat Wrestling is seemingly hard for people that have never done it. So if you have three grades for Folk, you have two for Free.

Folk - Top, bottom and neutral. If you cannot muster better than average on the mat, you won't contend for a title. It is hard to learn US mat Wrestling if you've never done it. They are going against guys that have 20 years of experience and work in those positions.
 
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I'll disagree here. Folk and Free are not as similar as people seem to believe. I am not sure how to explain it, but there is a reason that every stud FS guy isn't jumping on airplanes to come Wrestle NCAA Folkstyle.

Rin Sakamoto is the example I am going with...he couldn't crack the lineup. Now, he isn't Ono, but he is dynamic in neutral on par with the best guys in the world. Mat Wrestling is seemingly hard for people that have never done it. So if you have three grades for Folk, you have two for Free.

Folk - Top, bottom and neutral. If you cannot muster better than average on the mat, you won't contend for a title. It is hard to learn US mat Wrestling if you've never done it. They are going against guys that have 20 years of experience and work in those positions.
Not to mention the stalling that isn't called in Folkstyle can neutralize a lot of the freestylers advantages on the feet.
 
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OHkie

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Carter Young had one pretty good freestyle tournament, didn’t really lead to folk production like many thought it would
 

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...Ono, Ono-----maybe he has gotten too old to learn folkstyle?...what is eligibility in the new or old rules?...
 
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I'll disagree here. Folk and Free are not as similar as people seem to believe. I am not sure how to explain it, but there is a reason that every stud FS guy isn't jumping on airplanes to come Wrestle NCAA Folkstyle.

Rin Sakamoto is the example I am going with...he couldn't crack the lineup. Now, he isn't Ono, but he is dynamic in neutral on par with the best guys in the world. Mat Wrestling is seemingly hard for people that have never done it. So if you have three grades for Folk, you have two for Free.

Folk - Top, bottom and neutral. If you cannot muster better than average on the mat, you won't contend for a title. It is hard to learn US mat Wrestling if you've never done it. They are going against guys that have 20 years of experience and work in those positions.
Comparing Sakamoto to Ono is like comparing Des Roland and Herschel Walker. Talk about whistling past the graveyard.

Ono takes down any college wrestler within 10 pounds of his weight at least 5 times a match. If we were in the psu room, we'd know if Blaze can slow him down. Jax could maybe a little, call it 3 times for Jax. Jax could be his kryptonite because of how savage he is on the mat. Virtually no one else is Jax on the mat.

Unless Ono gets reversed and pinned very quickly because he's such a helpless babe on the mat, he will mathematically pull away from anyone trading 3 for 1.

Downplaying that guy is just the height of absurdity. Really don't understand the constant flex from college wrestling fans over this Ono folk thing. It's a thing, but supposes way too much about how little he's learned at psu and how unstoppable he's always been on his feet. He's only gotten better, we just haven't seen it.
 

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Comparing Sakamoto to Ono is like comparing Des Roland and Herschel Walker. Talk about whistling past the graveyard.

Ono takes down any college wrestler within 10 pounds of his weight at least 5 times a match. If we were in the psu room, we'd know if Blaze can slow him down. Jax could maybe a little, call it 3 times for Jax. Jax could be his kryptonite because of how savage he is on the mat. Virtually no one else is Jax on the mat.

Unless Ono gets reversed and pinned very quickly because he's such a helpless babe on the mat, he will mathematically pull away from anyone trading 3 for 1.

Downplaying that guy is just the height of absurdity. Really don't understand the constant flex from college wrestling fans over this Ono folk thing. It's a thing, but supposes way too much about how little he's learned at psu and how unstoppable he's always been on his feet. He's only gotten better, we just haven't seen it.
Haha, okay.

He ain’t taking ANY Wrestler within 10 pounds 5 times. There’s probably more than a dozen guys in that range that he isn’t taking down at all or very easily more than once.

So yes, he has to have considerable mat Wrestling skills to be dominant. He can’t be terrible at them to AA.
 

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Comparing Sakamoto to Ono is like comparing Des Roland and Herschel Walker. Talk about whistling past the graveyard.

Ono takes down any college wrestler within 10 pounds of his weight at least 5 times a match. If we were in the psu room, we'd know if Blaze can slow him down. Jax could maybe a little, call it 3 times for Jax. Jax could be his kryptonite because of how savage he is on the mat. Virtually no one else is Jax on the mat.

Unless Ono gets reversed and pinned very quickly because he's such a helpless babe on the mat, he will mathematically pull away from anyone trading 3 for 1.

Downplaying that guy is just the height of absurdity. Really don't understand the constant flex from college wrestling fans over this Ono folk thing. It's a thing, but supposes way too much about how little he's learned at psu and how unstoppable he's always been on his feet. He's only gotten better, we just haven't seen it.

Do you think he can take down Vega 5 times?
 
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