They do, just isnt talked about as much as there 57-74 issues.
HS Recruiting News
- Thread starter DEWrestlingFan
- Start date
They have Lilledahl for 3 more years now and Blaze for 4 more, and they have Sidun and Burnett both coming in next year.
Haha if we ever actually see him! I would love a match between Jax and Ono in folkstyle
Judging on a few nuggets from the Flo podcast, it sounds like Ono might not be everything PSU hoped for in folkstyle when it signed him. It is unclear to me if he will even crack the lineup. Could also just be the Flo guys playing coy because Cael told them to.
So he regressed from handily dominating the best guys in the world while in the PSU room?
Mmmmhmmm. Last I checked takedowns are a thing in folk. If he doesn't wrestle next year, something will be afoot that's not related to his quality as a wrestler.
Who said he regressed? He dominated in *freestyle* and has probably gotten a lot better at folkstyle since he entered their room - that doesn’t mean he’s better than Marcus Blaze at folk.
Even in neutral the two styles are very different, let alone the obvious differences on the mat.
I'll disagree here. Folk and Free are not as similar as people seem to believe. I am not sure how to explain it, but there is a reason that every stud FS guy isn't jumping on airplanes to come Wrestle NCAA Folkstyle.
Rin Sakamoto is the example I am going with...he couldn't crack the lineup. Now, he isn't Ono, but he is dynamic in neutral on par with the best guys in the world. Mat Wrestling is seemingly hard for people that have never done it. So if you have three grades for Folk, you have two for Free.
Folk - Top, bottom and neutral. If you cannot muster better than average on the mat, you won't contend for a title. It is hard to learn US mat Wrestling if you've never done it. They are going against guys that have 20 years of experience and work in those positions.
Not to mention the stalling that isn't called in Folkstyle can neutralize a lot of the freestylers advantages on the feet.
Carter Young had one pretty good freestyle tournament, didn’t really lead to folk production like many thought it would
Comparing Sakamoto to Ono is like comparing Des Roland and Herschel Walker. Talk about whistling past the graveyard.
Ono takes down any college wrestler within 10 pounds of his weight at least 5 times a match. If we were in the psu room, we'd know if Blaze can slow him down. Jax could maybe a little, call it 3 times for Jax. Jax could be his kryptonite because of how savage he is on the mat. Virtually no one else is Jax on the mat.
Unless Ono gets reversed and pinned very quickly because he's such a helpless babe on the mat, he will mathematically pull away from anyone trading 3 for 1.
Downplaying that guy is just the height of absurdity. Really don't understand the constant flex from college wrestling fans over this Ono folk thing. It's a thing, but supposes way too much about how little he's learned at psu and how unstoppable he's always been on his feet. He's only gotten better, we just haven't seen it.
Haha, okay.
He ain’t taking ANY Wrestler within 10 pounds 5 times. There’s probably more than a dozen guys in that range that he isn’t taking down at all or very easily more than once.
So yes, he has to have considerable mat Wrestling skills to be dominant. He can’t be terrible at them to AA.
Do you think he can take down Vega 5 times?
You do realize there are ways to scramble out of a takedown in folk that would not work in free. How many times did we see him in a folk open?
...sometimes to me Ono seems to be icing looking for a cake..................
Yes. His opponent was hurt after the first gut wrench unfortunately.
Said opponent was beaten by Vito and close matches with Gillman, Forrest and maybe Perrelli.
Forrest also beat the guy that beat him.
So yeah, he ain’t taking Jax down 5 times and folkstyle doesn’t matter haha.
Whats Ono gonna do against a well timed dive roll and other elite folkstyle scrambling that is completely alien to him that he didnt have to worry about in FS? He's not getting out from Jax or Seidel.
With Blaze being the SR rep he's gotta hold 61 kg until late October so I think we see him at 133. 141 Ono Desmond Davis Herring will be the guys pushing for the spot
As far as Ono goes he won't be turning anyone good and will probably have a tough time getting away from the top 141s. On his feet he will wrestle with the best guys . 141 could be exciting with newcomers Bassett and maybe Ono. Ono will have Davis and Desmond to battle as well. With the judges ruling in Ohio Mendez will be back
I am SO absolutely on this side. I think any of the awesome current 133lbers will smash Ono in folkstyle. Especially Jax and Seidel. He has to go down and even his own takedowns will be problems for him when he's down on the mat with his opponent. I could see him immediately cutting guys. I predict he will be a takedown machine standing up and struggle everywhere else against good competition. Folk is very very different from freestyle. It's also completely different type of mentality as well. They don't want the grind that is coming.
Bassett will absolutely manhandle Ono in folkstyle. That would be a nightmare matchup for him.
5 for 5 will help Ono with the grind aspect. He won't have to wrestle a full season of weight cuts. They can send out the backup as much as they want against lesser competitions so he's fresher at the end.
He needs mat time in Folk.
Why don't we ask the question? Why didn't he compete at all, in anything last year? Why haven't we seen him in Folk? He took a RS and didn't see any foam in public.
If Ono can't beat Desmond or Davis (no disrespect solid guys) then I don't know how seriously he has trained the last year. It would be weird for one of the best wrestlers in the world to spend a year in the Penn State room and not be able to be the starter at PSU's weakest weight.
Again I could see Ono getting in on about anyone but can he finish on elite folk scramblers? I agree with Chase that Ono needs mat time and we havent seen it. As far as him getting some kind of pitch count, thats not happening unless he's far and away the best guy for psu at the weight. They wont give him a spot just because he's Ono. The team race will be getting closer and cael knows it.
1. Yes, Carl won't just throw a guy out there because he exchanged singlets with David Taylor at Worlds.
2. Still begs the question; why didn't we see him at all last year during RS with available dates?
3. I know it is not even close to little league, but I cannot help but imagine some of the kids I see that are superb athletes that cannot get the "feel" of Wrestling. I can see multiple scenarios that make Ono look like a fish out of water because he simply hasn't felt it.
He was cutting to 57 for a tournament in Japan and got a kidney infection I believe it was. He was gonna hit a few small opens in Jan and Feb before the infection. The plan was always for him to wrestle in Japan some 1st semester and hit a few opens the 2nd. He couldn't do 5 dates because he's not considered a true freshman.According to Blaze and Pierce no one can ride him in the room
This was recorded the week between Big 10s and NCAAs