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gobigbluebell

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I just think that these people deserve a lifetime of medical treatment and medical care; not sitting in a cell to rot. And it seems the legal system doesn’t actually care about the mental state of people who commit these crimes. They just want to dope em up, say they’re sane now and toss ‘em in prison.
Yeah, that's a great solution. Let's provide people with a proven history of ultraviolence with some medical care for the rest of their life and pray that the person takes his/her medicine as prescribed and/or doesn't get into meth or whatever.

Hopefully they live in your neighborhood, not mine.

You ever going to own your stupid, stupid, ungodly stupid take that "China handled COVID well"?
 

MudererofCrows

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Yeah, that's a great solution. Let's provide people with a proven history of ultraviolence with some medical care for the rest of their life and pray that the person takes his/her medicine as prescribed and/or doesn't get into meth or whatever.

You ever going to own your stupid, stupid, ungodly stupid take that "China handled COVID well"?

I didn’t say release them. I said a lifetime of treatment and medical care in a dedicated facility. Not prison. Prisons are nowhere near equipped to handle mental health issues. Just like the police aren’t.

And Hank if you understood nuance and some critical thinking you’d know that societies conditioned and under authoritarian control are more likely to obey and not question things. Couple that with Chinese culture having a foundational element of always obeying your parent…there’s a reason we didn’t see a bunch of Yahoo!’s in the streets in Beijing yelling about how wearing a masks violated their freedom.

That also doesn’t even take into consideration how the Chinese can lock down a city of millions with nary a peep from its own population. If our government had done that to say Chicago there would have been riots in the streets…and rightly so.
 
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pretzel__logic

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I guess I'm not sure what you're basing your beef on, MOC. A finding of competency to stand trial isn't the same as a finding that they were sane at the time of the crime.

John Hinckley Jr. was pretty obviously bonkers when he tried to assassinate Reagan. He got "competent" to stand trial and then sat in a mental facility for 35 years before a federal judge cut him loose (kind of) to go live at his mom's, and then to unsupervised release in 2022. He wasn't ever pumped full of meds and immediately jammed in club fed, and he tried to murder the sitting POTUS.

Police and prosecutors are, undoubtedly, not well equipped to deal with severe mental illness, but that's not the ultimate issue for a would-be assassin like this kid (allegedly). Mental health is an incredibly thorny problem, whether you're the family, the school, the employer, the doc, or the individual. It's not a one-entity issue. There is only so much the legal system can do, particularly if an individual doesn't have a support network and/or anyone involved in their lives to help them recognize they have a problem and then to do something about it before it turns tragic. And, if this kid is like so many others who have adult-onset mental disorders like schizoaffective or schizophrenia or bipolar II, there's almost certainly a) family history and b) family disorder related to that diagnosis--or failure to diagnose and treat--of the other family member(s). I mean, sitting out here, it's easy for me to say he should go get some anti-psychotics, but I wasn't dealt that hand. And I wasn't (potentially, allegedly) encouraged and/or exploited due to or in spite of my mental conditions for someone else's political gain/story/whatever.

(Obviously, mental illness isn't an excuse to try to kill people. Just an explanation.)
 

Beatle Bum

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Here is an interesting tidbit. Yesterday, during the police chief’s presser, she did not release Brown’s name, because the investigation was ongoing, but she knew his name. I have to believe she knew him as a public figure/activist, as well.

So, when asked if the police had ideas about motivation, she mentioned a few possibilities they were investigating (mental illness being one), but also mentioned that Greenberg is Jewish, so they were also investigating the possibility of a hate crime. That is interesting to me, because she knew the suspect was Quintez Brown (found with 9 mm in his pocket, fitting description, extra rounds, etc). Does she think race/religion may have played a role? Or, even though she likely knows Brown, was she just keeping things open?

BTW, the police evidently did a very fine job on this one.
 

CastleRubric

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- Sorry for all the Bengals talk the last few weeks. Appreciate the patience and class shown by most here.

- Look a bad call in the first half is different m than one under the two minute warning. One is much more difficult to overcome.

- Bright futures and all but only a few QBs get more than one chance.

- My MIL put together a spread. It was ridiculous. Opened up a Weller 12. Great day besides the end. MIL didn’t appreciate my reaction but what can I say? You know how I am. You keep wanting me to come over for games. Your daughter drafted DeMarcus Cousins.

- Worst thing about the Super Bowl is sports conversations with non-sports fans.

- At a coffee shop in Mt. Adams drinking (coffee) my sorrows away. Just trying to stay away from my house as long as possible.

- Shorthanded in Knoxville isn’t ideal.

- March beckons and BBN is feeling ornery. LFG
I still think we should bring back gentlemen duels. It would cut out a lot of the ********.


I’m down - i say we do it like “Red Rover/Red Rover” meets Justified -

One taxpayer gets to verbally assail and draft a baby outfitted state political figure who represents the bottom 10 performing figures within the Commonwealth -

5 lucky Gunslingers get to unilaterally apply instant term limits on 2 professional TEAT SUCKERS who are carted away and buried by four members of Kentucky’s most decorated 4-H club

Face painting, apple bobbing and fireworks later -


it’s ok....i KNOW i’m already on one of the new “lists”
 
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cole854

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I just think that these people deserve a lifetime of medical treatment and medical care; not sitting in a cell to rot. And it seems the legal system doesn’t actually care about the mental state of people who commit these crimes. They just want to dope em up, say they’re sane now and toss ‘em in prison.

Deserve?
 

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<----- may or may not have purposefully failed a final in middle school because an F was easier to change to a B than a D was and I made sure that I had the same brand of pen that my teacher used.


<~~~~ DEFINITELY failed my Senior year at Middlesboro High because i’d already failed geometry twice and i thought a computer programming class ==== “MATH CREDITS”

because...... Binary and numerically gridded screens



i was a MUCH better college student
 

UK_Dallas

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If you are a Tito's drinker try Round Rock if your store carries it.

The guy that started it was married into the Tito's family, got divorced and started his own. Very similar flavor profile and will save you a few bucks.
 
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My take on the crazies who commit serious crimes (e.g., attempted murder) is to lock them in a mental hospital and throw away the key. Why should polite society let ~1% of our population to ruin people's lives and live on the street? Take that gal who was pushed in front of a subway a few weeks ago. That dude was in and out of mental homes. It's not like he was ever getting better. I guess what I'm saying is send Quintez to Central State and never let him out.
 
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My take on the crazies who commit serious crimes (e.g., attempted murder) is to lock them in a mental hospital and throw away the key. Why should polite society let ~1% of our population to ruin people's lives and live on the street? Take that gal who was pushed in front of a subway a few weeks ago. That dude was in and out of mental homes. It's not like he was ever getting better. I guess what I'm saying is send Quintez to Central State and never let him out.
No way, man. This guy was mentally ill and deserves a lifetime of medical care:


I also hate to break it to people but prisons are essentially poorly funded mental hospitals with bars and guards.
 

catlanta33

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No one is a bigger victim in life than those poor UL fans that were put through hell trying to defend their basketball program hiring hookers and found out BBC (3rd urban dictionary definition) and vindictive. I'm doubtful any of them are smart enough to realize that everything that has happened to that dumpster fire of a program they don't like and they think is unfair was entirely on the idiots running the program -- which they happily emboldened when it was happening.

Oh, btw, that banner is never going back up. Even if it hung in the rafters, everyone knows it was ill-gotten and it will become another point to mock them like when Kansas hung (maybe still there) Helms title banners to say they had more championships than they really did.
 
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UK_Dallas

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Vodka is **** and is for little girls, alcoholics and losers.
Agree in theory but reality is different.

Grey Goose martinis are very popular in the elite Dallas burbs.

- Jerry Jones and his athletic training staff have a Tito's on the rocks and...(this is out of nowhere) shots of Blue Chair Bay Mango Rum Cream after every win.
 

Mossip

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Sometimes I get these homer'ish takes that I need talked down from: I think Toppin eventually blossoms into something like his brother... and he has a better jumper. Right or wrong, it's fun having some players on the roster that you get to watch grow. Also, if we beat Auburn, that 360 would be legendary.

 
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