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Cal isnt changing anything... he's entered into recycling his talking points from the NIT debacle season, which wasn't nearly as putrid as his current effort."Never again" , "enjoy this now haters bc next year...." Not shocked some are buying in, just disappointed.

Props to IU for pulling the plug on its dead weight.

Ok. You can also argue he’s proven through results in the he can get off the mat and fire back with great results. Did you listen to the show? No.

Nobody is more redassed than me about what happened this past season and the red flags leading up to it but he’s here regardless next season so I tend to lean on hope and the fact he’s reinvented himself in the past.

I love you but you are like some cartoon character with a dark rain cloud following it.

Regardless, time will of course tell.
 
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I guess i'm on the side of time has already told us... Obviously, he's going to try and PR mouthpiece his way into sending everyone into the (early) offseason with this great hope for next season- but this hasnt been just a one-season deal. We've had increased turmoil within the team in recent years, the record against top competition has been mediocre, we're still likely going to be dependent on incoming guys being complete studs to plug some holes- There is a lot to fix, more than just x's and o's.

He can say what he wants, but i'm not tipping my cap to the guy based on a post season press conference.
 

buckethead1978

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I’ll just say that Cal mostly said the right things. I would have liked to have heard “I’m paid a lot of money and in the end this failure is mine” but that’s a lot to ask of him.

So he said mostly the right stuff.

Now he needs to do the right things.

First things first, fire Joel Justus.
 

TheShowKiller

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He can ramble all he wants just like he did about watching the NBA offenses in the bubble and there we were in the last game of the season running “circle” for the 30th consecutive time down the court...MSU players were practically waiting on our spots by the end of the game.

Askew and Allen in the boat means more to me than Cal’s yapping. Add Mintz, Brooks, Boston and Toppin to the mix with Oscar and I become hopeful. Get Justus a job at Mcneese State and bring back Coach O and I might even start talking smack to other fans again.

I would ask for KyKy and/or Powell as a transfers but that’s probably a bridge too far, that many Kentucky kids would break Cal’s brain.
 
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Ron Mehico

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Cal isnt changing anything... he's entered into recycling his talking points from the NIT debacle season, which wasn't nearly as putrid as his current effort."Never again" , "enjoy this now haters bc next year...." Not shocked some are buying in, just disappointed.


Wait, so your proof that Cal isn’t changing anything, and your disappointment that we’re even being optimistic about the future is how the 2014 and 2015 seasons went in comparison to 2013? Do you people even listen to yourselves??

This board and thread is a lot more fun with positive energy, so hopefully not everyone is disappointed if some of us choose to view Kentucky basketball through a positive lens.
 

TheShowKiller

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This board and thread is a lot more fun with positive energy, so hopefully not everyone is disappointed if some of us choose to view Kentucky basketball through a positive lens.
Coming off the worst season in school history I think the fans, in this thread and in general get a pass for being in a grumpy mood and taking a “wait and see” approach with the roster.

I’m an optimist by nature but it’s going to take a while before the sting of this season goes away. Like I posted a minute ago, roster fallout will tell me more than a fan call in show.
 

Ron Mehico

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Coming off the worst season in school history I think the fans, in this thread and in general get a pass for being in a grumpy mood and taking a “wait and see” approach with the roster.

I’m an optimist by nature but it’s going to take a while before the sting of this season goes away. Like I posted a minute ago, roster fallout will tell me more than a fan call in show.

There’s a difference between being grumpy and negative which 99% of the posts here and on rafters are anyway (and which don’t get called out at all) and being so grumpy that you literally post disappointment that people aren’t being grumpy and try to say they should be negative and then post a horrible example to prove it.

It’s fine if you guys want to be bitches all off-season but those of us that don’t will post too.
 

SAECATFAN

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-I think the experience with the fans this past year will be a net positive, especially in light of his bulletproof contract. I'd say he's now been given a pretty good feel for BJW's "invisible hand" in this partnership, for better or worse. He should respect more the fans' desire to win and how much fans do for the program. If he's smart, will realize (again) that it's a strength and not a weakness of the job.

-I'm curious if the admittance of skill over length and athleticism and the benefits of less roster turnover will force him to rebrand the program completely. We'll see.

-Let's also hope a year of empty stadiums and arenas also gave the University a better appreciation for its fanbase. Lord knows that's been needed for some time now, although I am less optimistic about that.

-I'm as snarky a ***** as anyone, but I'm also resided in the fact that he's not going anywhere. I also see the wisdom in hitching the wagon to him rather than risk getting on the coaching carousel again (if we even could).

As has already been stated, so much is riding on the next month or so and next year's roster. If we get the core back, in conjunction with his comments last night, I think you have to be slightly optimistic about this getting fixed.
 

SAECATFAN

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Yea, but this wasn't a disappointing loss in the sweet 16 or a bounce here or there and we're in the Final Four epiphany. The NIT season was easily dismissible after 2012 and the Noel injury.

I mean, this is a state trooper waking you up in your car in the middle of the interstate type of life event that forces you to perhaps reevaluate some things.
 
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wcc31

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- Ran into one of my old high school buddies at a fish fry on Friday- this dude is a firefighter ready to retire in a couple months and his oldest is an 18 year old senior. It’s like we’re on different planets. Not too long ago he was at EKU while I was at UK. Life comes at you fast.

- I’m a generally macro-optimistic person and I believe it’s easier to get it back than to never have the ability in the first place. It’s easy to become complacent or to simply stick with what’s always worked. I know many disagree but I don’t truly believe Cal’s goal was preparing NBA prospects. I think he (correctly for awhile) believed that was the best way to win big. Now, he has to pivot and adjust after being punched in the face. Cal’s not a one trick pony. He’s won big at 3 different places in 3 different ways. I’m still with him but I expect change here soon.

- I’m just glad Allen has shaken off Cal being mean to him to come back (as I first reported in GYERO last week).

- I mean those Illinois and Ohio State jerseys are sick. Where are ours, Mitch?

- Any NKY crew want to meet Wildcat Willy and me Friday afternoon in Newport?
 

anthonys735

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🤣 @ you fools thinking Cal is going to straight up own his mistakes in the first post season presser. #1 He shouldn't do that. #2 he would never do that.

Proof is in the pudding. Bring back the guys that should come back and focus on shooters/experience.
 

_Chase_

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That is true, and I sincerely hope he changes. Almost anyone would. We’ll see if Cal has been humbled enough to do it with conviction.
 

RandomUser

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Fair points made, but I'd like to reserve the right to be a little bitchy when I have to read some of these farewell notes to the fan base.

“I don’t even know where to start. It’s been a crazy ride with you guys this last year. We’ve made a lot of memories and I can’t thank you enough for always supporting me. All the best to #BBN!" - TClarke
 

barbourfor3

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Even if most of the team returns, it’s still a potential **** sandwich next year. I don’t think BJ Boston is gonna turn into an all-conference kinda guy, and while I love Mintz and think he truly maximizes his potential, he can’t carry the team by himself.
 

SAECATFAN

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- I mean those Illinois and Ohio State jerseys are sick. Where are ours, Mitch?

Whatever we did to Nike I wish someone would just apologize for it. It just feels personal at this point.

Or it's simply that the athletics department hates us, which could also be true, I guess. Surely they saw the KSR disapproval rating of over 85% from a few years ago.
 

anthonys735

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Whatever we did to Nike I wish someone would just apologize for it. It just feels personal at this point.

Or it's simply that the athletics department hates us, which could also be true, I guess. Surely they saw the KSR disapproval rating of over 85% from a few years ago.
Obviously that Wal-Mart trash is a hit with someone. We know Willy loves it. We're dressed like an Arena League Football team.
 

wcc31

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Even if most of the team returns, it’s still a potential **** sandwich next year. I don’t think BJ Boston is gonna turn into an all-conference kinda guy, and while I love Mintz and think he truly maximizes his potential, he can’t carry the team by himself.

I don’t understand this mentality- players improve here and everywhere EVERY year - especially the ones considered talents. Hell it just happened with Richards and Quickley.
 
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Still waiting for the top button jerseys.

Loved the part in the documentary last night where the 75/78 teams were being chided for playing too aggressive. Goose even said they wanted to beat you as badly as possible...need some of that moving forward.

Goose would never be caught dead with pink and yellow shoes on different feet and a crusty the clown haircut.
 
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- Ran into one of my old high school buddies at a fish fry on Friday- this dude is a firefighter ready to retire in a couple months and his oldest is an 18 year old senior. It’s like we’re on different planets. Not too long ago he was at EKU while I was at UK. Life comes at you fast.


Yeah a lot of my buddies from EKU that were in Police Administration or Fire Science are hitting that retirement age and some already have and are double dipping. And I'm nowhere close.
 

wcc31

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Nothing brings out the crazy like a college sports coaching search. Doesn’t matter the fanbase either.
 

krazykats

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The real question here is do you hold IU against Archie if he goes somewhere else and succeeds?

He was a pretty hot commodity when they hired him.

And no I’m not suggesting him for UK, just an in general question. To me I hope he succeeds now and it really is more of an IU thing.
 
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rudd1

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-my optimistic take: cal isn't gonna be mega-contrite/ask forgiveness in public(especially this soon)...and as much as I'd like to see it, he shouldn't. It would be spun as weakness by opposing recruiters.

-he (in his own way) addressed the concerns of the fanbase...that's as good as its gonna get. Cautiously (mildly) optimistic...now show me, john.
 
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