Garrison Brooks

willievic

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We should have never taken Kyle Macy, Mark Pope or Heshimu Evans by your logic.

Am I understanding you or is your issue with a one year guy?
It is OK IF they have to set out a year. I understand that some players can't get along with a coach. I think if a coach leaves, then the player or players should be able to go to any school without setting out. If the coach leaves, you and I know that players go to a school for the coach, not the school , 90% of the time. If the player just wants to leave the school, then I feel he should set out a year. Just my opinion. Not trying to start an argument, and I don't think you are. Just discussing the issue as far as I can tell.

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willievic

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Does respecting God include showing respect for Cal on a Kentucky website that thousands of people see and read or is that beyond what God would teach?

I don't respect you, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. You appear to me to be an Idiot who just wants to argue. Turn loos of Cal's testicles long enough to take a look at this year. If I keep arguing with you, fans will think I'm as dumb as you.

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HagginHall1999

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It is OK IF they have to set out a year. I understand that some players can't get along with a coach. I think if a coach leaves, then the player or players should be able to go to any school without setting out. If the coach leaves, you and I know that players go to a school for the coach, not the school , 90% of the time. If the player just wants to leave the school, then I feel he should set out a year. Just my opinion. Not trying to start an argument, and I don't think you are. Just discussing the issue as far as I can tell.

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Yeah I wanted to understand what you meant. I agree fwiw. As Dylan said, "times they are a changin".

I don't particularly care for college basketball free agency either. That said, not participating in it would be a major mistake now because other schools won't stop.
 
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I could have sworn the last game UNC played that I watched the announcers said Garrison Brooks is one of the most well-respected players in the ACC. The coaches rave about the guy. He's been in wars in the ACC. He's also a totally different player than Olivier Sarr if that's what sours anyone. One thing this team lacked was physicality this year. Garrison Brooks brings that. He'd be a welcome addition. However, I doubt he's just gonna go somewhere and be satisfied with 12-15 minutes a game.
 

michael895

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Brooks is a very solid player, I hate UNC but I respect their ability to develop bigs and they are usually always good. Brooks is very physical (a lot more than Sarr) and also has a very good mid-range shot. He rebounds the ball very well too. If he wants to come to UK you got to take him and just make it work.
 

wccat

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Would love to have Garrison but let's hope Cal gets them a PG that can 1.) get them the ball in the right place down low and 2.) can get into the lane for chip shot by the bigs.
 

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Not my hero! Does two wrongs in life, make it OK? I guess I'm from the "Old School," where we earn what we get, and in basketball, not poaching someone else's player, after his coach has worked with him and made him better. Especially if I didn't recruit him out of high school. That's my opinion, but everyone is entitled to their own.

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So it’s UK’s fault they transferred? Wouldn’t that mean that the “little school” would just have to recruit some under the radar player again and coach them up? Like how is this Kentucky’s fault? If a kid gets better and thinks that transferring to a more recognized school will benefit both their development and NBA aspirations how is that Kentucky’s fault?

Just cheer for EKU and be done w it.
 

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I’d take him

Edit: actually idk, if it means Ware transferring then I wouldn’t. We need guys to stay a few years. Keep Ware and develop him
You’d rather have Ware over G Brooks? Have you seen Ware play? He’s not remotely good. You can’t count on a single player staying more than 1 year. So always take the best available
 
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You’d rather have Ware over G Brooks? Have you seen Ware play? He’s not remotely good. You can’t count on a single player staying more than 1 year. So always take the best available
So you want a team full of new players like this past year? We see what that did. Having a team full of new players isn’t going to work like you’re thinking. Need some guys who know the system and can help the new guys adjust. Usually 4 or 5 is needed and Ware can be very valuable.
 

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So you want a team full of new players like this past year? We see what that did. Having a team full of new players isn’t going to work like you’re thinking. Need some guys who know the system and can help the new guys adjust. Usually 4 or 5 is needed and Ware can be very valuable.
I’m saying that no one is staying 3-4 years at hardly any program in America anymore, starting this year. It’s stupid to try to count on a kid stating 4 years when they’ll inevitably leave prior. Take the best kids possible
 

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Why do we keep taking these players from another school? Is that how you build a team, or do you recruit good players, who will stay more then one year. Playing together more then one year, will allow the players to go from being individuals, to being team players. The players Cal recruits are only interested in one thing, getting to the NBA. That was so evident this year, especially with Boston. We have a coach who doesn't give a damn about UK, and winning a National Championship, only about getting players to the NBA. Is that what UK is all about?

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You are spot on...Cal has gone from a failed OAD to trying to plug the leaks in this UK program with transfers. His approach, to me, is so ill-founded and stupid that I feel dumber than I am for even talking about the madness. Cal has lost his mind and is losing the fans in droves.
 

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So you want a team full of new players like this past year? We see what that did. Having a team full of new players isn’t going to work like you’re thinking. Need some guys who know the system and can help the new guys adjust. Usually 4 or 5 is needed and Ware can be very valuable.
Always take talent. I don't care if they are a one year player or they have been here 10 years.
 

bigblue1971

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You definitely take Garrison Brooks if Keion Brooks leaves. He probably starts with Tshiebwe and unless Collins is as good or better than advertised. Plus in Toppin playing 3-4 and we'd be good in the frontcourt. I don't think Ware would hang around in that scenario.
 

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You take Garrison Brooks in a heartbeat. Preseason ACC Player of the Year. Doesn’t matter that he didn’t have a great year the talent and potential is there

Not that this matters too much, but if you look at the UNC board, they are all saying that Garrison Brooks was the team cancer this past season. They were saying that most of the issues within the locker room were because of Garrison and his bad attitude.
 

katwest

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I would take Brooks, if he were a cancer on the team he wouldn't have been there four years would he. He is a big man who's not afraid to mix it up and he can play, out of Keesler and Brooks, I would take Brooks first.
 

willievic

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So it’s UK’s fault they transferred? Wouldn’t that mean that the “little school” would just have to recruit some under the radar player again and coach them up? Like how is this Kentucky’s fault? If a kid gets better and thinks that transferring to a more recognized school will benefit both their development and NBA aspirations how is that Kentucky’s fault?

Just cheer for EKU and be done w it.
Ham, so you think it's OK for a coach not to recruit a player, but when another coach works with him, makes him a good player, then, a coach who didn't think he was good enough for him to recruit, and work with him, poaches him away from the coach who made him better. Pretty soon, the small schools will not be able to keep good recruits. I can see why Cal would recruit transfers. He is not a good enough teacher to make a player better. If a player is good enough, he can go to any school and make the NBA. For your info, it's none of your damn business who I pull for. Your such a smart a$$, let's put some money where our mouth is. Let me know when you want to meet at UK and make a large donation. I'll match yours, if you will match mine. What do you say?

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I’m saying that no one is staying 3-4 years at hardly any program in America anymore, starting this year. It’s stupid to try to count on a kid stating 4 years when they’ll inevitably leave prior. Take the best kids possible
Check Baylor and the other teams that made the Final Four.

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Ham, so you think it's OK for a coach not to recruit a player, but when another coach works with him, makes him a good player, then, a coach who didn't think he was good enough for him to recruit, and work with him, poaches him away from the coach who made him better. Pretty soon, the small schools will not be able to keep good recruits. I can see why Cal would recruit transfers. He is not a good enough teacher to make a player better. If a player is good enough, he can go to any school and make the NBA. For your info, it's none of your damn business who I pull for. Your such a smart a$$, let's put some money where our mouth is. Let me know when you want to meet at UK and make a large donation. I'll match yours, if you will match mine. What do you say?

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Well now, that escalated quickly. Seems to me the smart *** would be the one doing the whole “let’s meet up and I’ll show you how rich I am” routine.

On a freaking message board. Knowing full well that will never happen.

Let’s meet up and I’ll show you my Lamborghini. Unless it’s a Tuesday cause I’ll be driving my helicopter.
 

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Well now, that escalated quickly. Seems to me the smart *** would be the one doing the whole “let’s meet up and I’ll show you how rich I am” routine.

On a freaking message board. Knowing full well that will never happen.

Let’s meet up and I’ll show you my Lamborghini. Unless it’s a Tuesday cause I’ll be driving my helicopter.
I prefer flying a helicopter.
 

bnewt

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You are spot on...Cal has gone from a failed OAD to trying to plug the leaks in this UK program with transfers. His approach, to me, is so ill-founded and stupid that I feel dumber than I am for even talking about the madness. Cal has lost his mind and is losing the fans in droves.
He doesn't care about the fans
Talking about yourself again.
No but you must be looking in the mirror
 
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bnewt

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Ham, so you think it's OK for a coach not to recruit a player, but when another coach works with him, makes him a good player, then, a coach who didn't think he was good enough for him to recruit, and work with him, poaches him away from the coach who made him better. Pretty soon, the small schools will not be able to keep good recruits. I can see why Cal would recruit transfers. He is not a good enough teacher to make a player better. If a player is good enough, he can go to any school and make the NBA. For your info, it's none of your damn business who I pull for. Your such a smart a$$, let's put some money where our mouth is. Let me know when you want to meet at UK and make a large donation. I'll match yours, if you will match mine. What do you say?

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This transfer rule is perfect for cal
It allows him a 2nd chance on guys he ignored out of high school
 

katwest

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It’s funny, I didn’t read that all about Sarr here last summer
Evidently the SEC is way more physical than the ACC, he even said that, I would say it takes a season to tell how players are going to play, wouldn't you.
 

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He’s going to Mississippi St. his dad coaches there. It’s where he originally committed to out of high school. All this talk about how good he isn’t, he will probably have 25 and 15 against us next season. You guys thst wouldn’t take him? Who on this current team could defend him?
 

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He’s going to Mississippi St. his dad coaches there. It’s where he originally committed to out of high school. All this talk about how good he isn’t, he will probably have 25 and 15 against us next season. You guys thst wouldn’t take him? Who on this current team could defend him?
He named the schools he is considering and Miss State wasn't on it.I would love to have him.
 
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He’s going to Mississippi St. his dad coaches there. It’s where he originally committed to out of high school. All this talk about how good he isn’t, he will probably have 25 and 15 against us next season. You guys thst wouldn’t take him? Who on this current team could defend him?
I thought the same but somehow Miss St isnt on his supposed list