Fix the line and we arent having this conversation because we have an actual running game and we take the game out of AM2s hands (or at least lessen his importance). Yes he has missed open guys, done dumb ****, but we have got to get our damned run game (using actual running backs) going. I really hope they can get that O-line figured out
Frost on AM returning....
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Let’s break the ******* record! No fear of failure! Embrace failure! Eat it for brunch!
I like my running backs at 125 lbs… right between the tackles. Recruit them in 7th grade and make them vegetarian until college
When you have to make split second decisions on every single play because your o line blocks nobody, your odds of making ****** decisions go up tremendously. Peyton Manning wouldn’t win a single game with this o line and these receivers. AM never has an easy play called for him. It’s always difficult.
********. He makes easy plays look hard because he doesn't see open receivers and holds the ball too long constantly. The o-line sucks too but Martinez does them zero favors.
This is exactly why a smart coach in this position would move on. He has to win. He (the theoretical smart coach, not HCSF) knows he is looking at 4 or 5 wins with a couple of unexplainable losses again next year if he sticks with AM, with or without improvement in line play. I think you are certifiably insane if you think otherwise. IMO, it won't end up being up to HCSF. Any OC with half a brain mulling over an offer to come here is going to say we move on from Martinez or I don't come, and TA is going to tell HCSF you need this guy as OC more than you need to give AM more chances for that one redemption win.
HCSF knows Martinez can be great with the right coaching and that’s why he wants him back. Martinez has had bad coaching the last 4 years but with a new OC and QB coach that won’t be the case. Martinez will be back to being a front runner for Heisman like he was before his sophomore year. Martinez is is close to breaking all the passing records in NU history so after next year he will own all of them for many years to come. We don’t want that guy in our program? Of course we do. We support our players no matter what!!!
Dang, if he gets hurt early we might end up with a losing record.... oh wait... yeah never mind.
Frost says he’s the best we’ve got, we wouldn’t know because we’ve not truly seen others get reps.
I hope this all works out, we‘d all like to see some wins!
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I hope this all works out, we‘d all like to see some wins!
GBR! # USA # 1
Four year starter not having any field or situational awareness is amazing. Frost is too emotionally attached to Adrian.
So is he referencing the end of the season in general? or is he implying in 9 days we'll know who the new OC & QB coach are??? Perhaps I'm taking it out of context since I havn't seen this report but it seems like he's leading us here in this quote...
You can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day its still a pig. There is no coach in the world who can crawl into AM's noggin and fix him. Frankly, we may find out in a few years that Verduzco is actually a pretty good QB coach once he untethers himself from AM (trying to keep a straight face). I do find it unfathomable that after four years there are still people who think another year will change things. Then again, there are still 38% in this country who approve of . . . . So I guess I really shouldn't be surprised.
x 100 leodis, their are plenty of times QB1 has the “time” and he still gets sacked because he doesn’t see the field, can’t read the defense. I understand it’s not a frequent enough occurence because the OL has stunk but their is evidence of this. A better OL would alleviate but it wouldn’t ”fix” our problem at QB in my opinion. I don’t think our record would be different is what i’m saying.
i would be happy for him if this were the case. I’m not a forever hater. Proving some of us wrong would be a great story for him.
frost has had four years to come up with some type of alternative to at least try and it hasn’t happened
so going back to the Smothers discussion in the other thread - there are two possible explanations
1. Despite all the deficiencies of AM - Smothers is so much inferior that he doesn’t even warrant an opportunity
or
2. Frost has been grossly negligent by not exploring a viable option to AM in Smothers
pick option 1 or 2
so going back to the Smothers discussion in the other thread - there are two possible explanations
1. Despite all the deficiencies of AM - Smothers is so much inferior that he doesn’t even warrant an opportunity
or
2. Frost has been grossly negligent by not exploring a viable option to AM in Smothers
pick option 1 or 2
I’m in the camp of trying to keep AM, but as a backup option to an incoming transfer. AM should be the insurance policy on the car, not the car.
It's possible, but when you recruit guys that aren't natural quarterbacks, and can't develop the guys you recruit, you end up in a pickle.
Plus, he doesnt seem to understand what it takes to develop a qb. I hope Trev likes working overtime because i got a feeling he's going to be going full Barry Alvarez mode.
I, for one, am shocked about this. Dagnabit, I thought things would change bringing the same losing head coach and qb back next year. There's no such thing as deficiency in talent or mental capabilities, just give people dozens or hundreds of chances and they will achieve the ultimate success of a 6 win season.
I'm thinking it's the coaches fault for not having another qb option. I think martinez does the best he can, but the turnovers and L's are the main problem. so I would place the blame on the coaches, not martinez as far as not having an option at qb. we have had a history of coddling qb's, which probably hurts our depth. if the back -up is shut out of game time completely the transfer portal seems a more likely option, where if you can give the 2nd string qb SOME limelight they may stick around. the coaches need to diversify and not lay all their chips on 1 qb.
That should be discovered in practice and scrimmage. Best player starts. Shouldn't have to wait until a couple games into season and it isn't that tough.
Yes some players are better in practice and can't handle games well. That's what non conference games are for. The Illinois game and NW game next season distort that to some degree
It wouldn't shock me, and it wouldn't change a thing in my mind. What he is doing HERE isn't working. Sometimes a divorce is truly what both sides need.
His best play is a scramble because he can't hit a wide open receiver 5 yards behind the defense right before halftime. Mistakes like that end up losing you games. No way we lose that game IF he makes that connection.
Just when you couldn't make yourself look like a bigger loser you go and create a new account. Well done!
"HCSF knows Martinez can be great" = opinion
"that’s why he wants him back" = opinion
"Martinez has had bad coaching the last 4 years" = likely fact
"with a new OC and QB coach that won’t be the case" = hopeful opinion supported by nothing.
"Martinez will be back to being a front runner for Heisman like he was before his sophomore year" = delusional opinion.
"Martinez is is close to breaking all the passing records in NU history". Verifiable fact. Another verifiable fact: He is also close to becoming the losingest QB in the 150+ year history of college football.
"We don’t want that guy in our program?" = depends on who you ask. Apparently we have zero depth at QB. That could have been alleviated by hitting the transfer portal 2 seasons ago as well as last season.
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All the opponents have to do is run a zone defense Adrian can’t find the open receivers, he did ok until I forgot what team several years ago switched from playing man defense to a zone and bingo that happens to be Kryptonite
You’ll regret not having him. He’ll be another TA. AM has very little talent around him is what SF was eluding. He’d be Jalen Hurts at Neb. Way more running and look better throwing to NFL guys. Scouts see a backup for sure in the NFL. Maybe after a few years gets a **** or carry’s the clipboard and makes great money.
No I won’t. I’m ready for him to be done. He’s had 4 years to perform on the big stage and hasn’t.
15 seconds before that play i told my wife we've lost it. am will f this up sure as hell. and he did right on cue. am should have been pulled years ago after these screw ups and he may have learned something standing on the sideline. as it is he's just become a poor decision maker and a disaster for a p5 quarterback. frost still dont get it, dumb as a box of pet rocks.
I agree with this. Not once this year have we had the O-Line play even decent when AM was healthy. When he was healthy he was running for his life damn near every play. Now that he is injured, it seems the line is playing a little bit better (not to a good standard but better than what they were). It would be nice to see what he could do behind a good line.
The only quick throws are ******** swing passes. I think it’s both Martinez and the play calling. We never run slants, ever, the easiest play in the world against man coverage and we have the receivers for it. Every f*cking pass play is Martinez trying to just buy time and dance around. It’s completely pathetic.