Fred should be fired today
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Gotta love the Big Ten. Last night a Purdue player kneed a USC player in the head - unintentional, not a dirty play at all, but kneed in the head nonetheless. Musselman had to beg and plead for a review, which lasted about 4 seconds before "common foul" was confirmed.
Today pretty much the same thing happened when an Oregon player accidently kicked a Spartan in the head. Surprise, surprise, surprise - it was upgraded.
Today pretty much the same thing happened when an Oregon player accidently kicked a Spartan in the head. Surprise, surprise, surprise - it was upgraded.
Prioritizing basketball. You wouldn’t understand cause you don’t watch basketball. Michigan State was just playing in the B1G tournament and Barto was talking about how frustrated Tom Izzo, Michigan State administrators and fans are that they haven’t been to the final 4 since 2016. Izzo described it as unacceptable. This a program with 5 final 4 appearances and a national championship in the last 20 years.
Our administration allows average to below average coaches to grift them for large contracts and then they always extend their contract without justifiable results to do so. We then keep them around for years too long because we extended their contract without zero results. And keep in mind, every coach we paid top money for went to a lower level of D1 after being fired from NU. And all of them sucked even more against lesser competition, complete failures. So there you have it…
Our administration isn’t committed to hiring the best coach our money can buy, and they’ve mismanaged those ****** coaches contracts and tenures. Why do you keep asking these questions like you don’t think I’ll have a good answer? Especially when I destroy your veiled assertions with each answer I post. And why do keep asking these questions when you admittedly don’t care about basketball?
There’s a legitimate reason why nobody else is asking these questions (other than you) in this thread. And it’s not cause they don’t care about basketball.
Now you’re talking! It appears they are committed to basketball but just to the wrong coach.
Where does Fred’s salary rank in the conference?
I’ve said before and I’ll say it again, we will have to overpay in basketball (football to some degree as well) to lure the best players possible. When you’re one of the worst D1 programs historically (some might say the worst cause we’ve never won an NCAA game) you can’t just match or slightly exceed the NIL offers of teams with a history of success. That doesn’t mean we’re not spending as much as other schools, it just means we don’t understand who we are and that we’ll have to pay more than our competitors until we figure out how rehabilitate our public perception.
But if we pay them they will come. We just need to understand that we need a financial commitment to NIL that exceeds that of our competition. Spending the same as a programs like Wisconsin or Illinois isn’t good enough because we don’t have the reputation and leverage to promise a kid success. If you have a history of NCAA tournament success and a history of putting kids in the NBA, you have the “reputational capital” to convince a kid to come to your school the same or even less money than other schools are offering. We don’t have that luxury and the powers that be need to recognize this and start publicly advocating and making moves to open up our big donors’ pockets.
And buying the best coach our money can buy would be a good start and likely help some of those donors to open up their pockets. Fred was the 1st semi-high profile coach we’ve ever really hired. I was hopeful, but it’s pretty clear he’s just not good enough. Need to up the ante with our next hire. Is what it is, we’re an ugly guy with a lot of money. And we’re gonna have to spend more of it than most to get a hot wife.
Also no hard feelings about this conversation. I’m currently very frustrated and pissed off about this season’s epic collapse. And I probably let your questions annoy me more than they normally would.
Fred’s salary (4.75 mil) is ranked 5th in the conference and 15th nationally. Unbelievable!
We’re good! I’m glad we finally got to the point of putting some blame on the coach instead of saying the administration isn’t supporting basketball.
Wow what a spectacular collapse. Go from 8/9 seed with 4 games to go to not even making the nit
But that’s one of the most direct ways an administration can support a sport. Be self aware, know who you are and how much you need to spend to accomplish your goals. Then don’t get married to your own decisions, hold that coach accountable, demand results, don’t prematurely extend their contract and then fire them when they don’t live up to expectations. Also a public push for NIL funding would help, like they do for football and volleyball.
Administration is not in absolved from blame in this situation. They don’t put enough pressure on basketball to perform. They don’t think they need to put in the same effort into bolstering NIL contributions for basketball. They don’t hire the right coaches, the prematurely extend their contracts and then their too cheap to fire those coaches when the writing has been in the wall for years.
Fred made yet another Most Overpaid list:
Most Overpaid Coaches
But hey, I’m sure this doesn’t take into account that he’s a “great fit” and that Grandpa coached at NU.
Most Overpaid Coaches
But hey, I’m sure this doesn’t take into account that he’s a “great fit” and that Grandpa coached at NU.
Our team folded like cheap tent.
Fred sucks and his portal additions are bums.
Our administration is too cheap to fix the problem they created.
Our donors don’t prioritize basketball. (NIL or otherwise)
Administration doesn’t publicly push for more NIL funding the way they do for football and volleyball.
Fran McCaffery is a psychopath who just got fired.
iowa will probably do better job (than us) at hiring a quality coach.
I hate not being part of March so much I could throat punch my sweet little grandmother. God rest her soul…
That’s most of it.
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CBI to see who’s the tallest midget.. or maybe local ymca tourney to go against a bunch of guys in wheelchairs
I think his original contract gave lots of time and kind of hand cuffed the administration. The extension was robbery.
We need to accept that we have to overpay for a good coach. But then we need hold them accountable for all that money. You got 3 maybe 4 years tops to win an NCAA tournament game or you’re toast. No extension until you do that, coming close isn’t good enough.
Are they basing “popular with fan base” with the fact we rank 13th nationally in attendance because Husker fans would show if Red Panda or Frisbee Dog performed.
Fred doesn’t appear to be the answer, but at least we tried to overpay for a coach. Problem is we decided we liked Fred personally (good and decent man) more than we hated losing…
New tournament that they just created this year so more loser teams can have a meaningless consolation prize. I personally find all these “other post season tournaments” insulting.
Don’t know why they keep making up these tournaments.
After the NCAA the NIT is enough.
Any chance we don’t have enough to qualify? We all know they are gonna get worked and sent packing in the 1st round. If they couldn’t get up for senior day against iowa with everything on the line they ain’t gonna do **** in Vegas.
I figure the most likely outcome is that GG plays, scores 40, and then transfers to Iowa or Creighton.
The lack of motivation is enough of a reason to get a new coach. Got up for ranked opponents but when it came to bottom 1/4 of big ten it wasn’t there.
Would Chucky Hepburn have made us better? How much did we offer him? Obviously not enough. IMO he would have made us a tournament team. Far better than any of our "point guards".
We had other deficiencies besides point guard, perimeter shooting was terrible.
Chucky wouldn’t have helped in that department.
I get it but the fact is he got a LOT out of that crew last year. I'm frustrated too. I don't know how we get the talent to NU we need because we clearly didn't get it this past year. I just don't think bringing in a new guy would change anything and we're pot committed with Fred. I believe that was intentional. All the AD cares about is winning enough at home to fill PBA. My expectations after watching 50+ years of Husker basketball I admit are pretty low. Fred gave me some hope last year. They were fun to watch but the team was like a group from the Island of Misfit Toys. Somehow they won. This year not so much. I can't get to home games. I'm not in the locker room or at practice. The only thing I an see is the product on the floor. The transfers we brought in weren't good enough to replace the guys we lost. The one guy I expected more from this year was Juwann. He would have a great game and the next game he would be absolutely horrid. His inconsistency killed us without Mast to take up the slack.