EJ gone
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He's obviously listening to his dad or someone his dad trusts. He neve even came close to averaging double digits in points. How in the world they think he's ready to play against grown men is beyond me. Parents sound like they regret him ever coming to UK.
Daniel Horton leaving was head-scratcher, too. As was Dakari Johnson. Not sure either one has been heard from since. I also thought Skal left at least a year too early (EJ actually reminds me of Skal - physical potential but almost nothing to show for it on the court production-wise).
Maybe, but the sample size doesn't support your claim just yet; and that's the main issue here. We're rolling into next season with more "maybes" than we are sure things.
Kuminga is a sure thing. That's why Cal is pushing for him to reclass. That's really the telltale about how much Cal truly "likes his team" at this point.
We don't have enough yet for a title push, and Cal knows it.
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I was thinking more Hall and Oates.
At least we're clear now we're no longer thinking The Klash.
I was thinking more Hall and Oates.
At least we're clear now we're no longer thinking The Klash.
LOL basically every year . We lose about 5 players every year on average but have lost 6-7 a handful of times too. Just last year we lost Green ( mid season but still) , Herro , travis , PJ , KJ . Year before we lost Diallo SGA knox Vanderbilt Gabriel SKJ . Year before Humphries , Bam , Monk , Fox , Hawkins , Willis , Briscoe . So yes .
Just being honest he looked like the laziest player I have even seen in the Cal era running up and down the court.
At least Orton was a first round pick . We have guys leaving now who are 30 picks behind where Orton was picked or not getting drafted at all .
He's got some terrible terrible advice...have fun not being drafted. You had a lot of potential young man...good luck in Europe
I wonder if EJ even thinks he’s ready? His dad sounded like it’s all his idea and his mind couldn’t be changed.
I think Cal created a beast he can’t control with the “I’m the guy to get you to the NBA” angle. When he first came to Kentucky I felt like he was such a hellacious recruiter because he sold playing for him and playing his style. It wasn’t all about the NBA. And when you have a personal angle like that it’s much harder to recruit against. But if it’s all about the NBA other coaches can now walk in and go “dude you’re good enough you’ll get to the NBA. You don’t have to play for Cal to do that.” So it’s no longer about Cal, it’s about the NBA.
Then once dudes get here, all they care about is the NBA, ready or not here they come.
Just my wildly unpopular take, I’m sure.
Then once dudes get here, all they care about is the NBA, ready or not here they come.
Just my wildly unpopular take, I’m sure.
I disagree a little. I think Brooks will do more than EJ ever did on both ends. I think the 4 is his best position, hopefully he adds 15-20lbs.
I just don't see Kuminga even being an option this year. Also, I'm not sure he fits with the kind of team Cal is likely planning to have this coming year. I think next year is best case for him.
It never bodes well if your title hopes are pinned on catching lightning in a bottle for six straight elimination games.
Even some of our better teams couldn't do it (2010, 2015, 2017, 2019).
You need luck, but you also need a pretty decent array of dependable pieces.
Why is everyone acting surprised?? It’s pretty much been written in stone EJ was leaving...yes it’s dumb...but EJ is the easiest to replace.
Losing IQ and Nick is what hurts. Everyone should be pissed about that...that’s gonna be hard replacing.
EJ’s departure is the easiest to accept. Not even that mad cuz KB is the answer at 4. Better offense and just as good defense and rebounding we would’ve got from EJ.
Losing IQ and Nick is what hurts. Everyone should be pissed about that...that’s gonna be hard replacing.
EJ’s departure is the easiest to accept. Not even that mad cuz KB is the answer at 4. Better offense and just as good defense and rebounding we would’ve got from EJ.
Cal absolutely has. Look at the results from 2015 to now....tons of guys transferring, tons of guys leaving who had to business leaving and marginal overall success as a program compared to what Cal did previously and what he should be doing now. At this point he has created a monster that cannot be fixed, IMO.
Cal is that boyfriend that hypes up the ugly girlfriend . Like I said he will always show support for these guys no matter what . That’s pretty impressive because I know he has to be somewhat frustrated with some of these guys leaving .
Kuminga likes the idea of playing with Clarke. It's one of the major reasons he's still strongly considering Kentucky.
If he came here, he'd give us 15 to 18 points/game and go #1 or #2 in the draft. You find a way to make a guy like that "fit" into your overall schemes.
Whatevs.. lets move on to the bigs.. we literally have unlimited center minutes, at a premier program, that we can gaurantee to a recruit. Someone will bite. Take whichever guy can get us 8 and 7 a game.
When the transfer market opens, this will be the new normal in college basketball. Roster turnover will be EVERYWHERE.
But...we have the one coach who is used to it and does it better than anyone else. Something to watch the next decade for sure.
But...we have the one coach who is used to it and does it better than anyone else. Something to watch the next decade for sure.
So what exactly has EJ shown in 2 years that KB didn’t show in his limited minutes as a freshman?
Y’all are thinking too hard about this. Junior or 20th year Sr, EJ isn’t better than KB.
And KB isn’t coming back to come off the bench.
Well thanks to COVID we probably won’t have a season and if we do we will have an all new team with less practice than normal. Then next March brooks, Haarms and the guys who’s name I don’t even have memorized yet will be declaring. That’s just grand!!!
Sorry I had to get that out of my system. I am okay now. Carry on.
Sorry I had to get that out of my system. I am okay now. Carry on.
It's more like Score A Few Points And Succeed.
This is me. We can’t handcuff him to the Craft Center. Seems like a nice kid, but he’ll go down as one of the most non-productive top 10 recruits we’ve had at UK.
Agree. I was as disapointed as others that EJ never seemed to flourish but I still appreciate him as someone who made the decision to come and be part of the family in the first place.
The hurt feelings by some over his decision is ironic, given that according to them he wasnt any good anyway.
Reinforces the one way deal many have to being a fan of the program and the kids. Make me happy or else your dead to me.
Calipari always finds a way. Knox, Murray, Travis, Sestina ... late additions that all helped Kentucky. He will get 2 more bigs, mark it down.
Much different. You’re talking about groups of guys that spent years playing together, in the trenches. Learning tendencies and the system. Not a couple patchwork grad transfers and freshman. Not the same at all.
I’m fine with the way this program is run, Cal has been very transparent about it. He is for the players before himself, the program, and the University. It can be frustrating as a fan but it’s honestly how it should be. We as fans put all these expectations on players, so it’s only fair for us to support their dreams and care about them as people. With that being said, EJ is making a horrendous decision. None of us would let a family member declare for the NBA draft after averaging 6 and 5 in college. We would all be prepared to have that tough discussion and say “listen fam, you just aren’t ready”. If Cal told him he’s ready to go to the NBA then I will admit that this has gotten out of control. If Cal told him “hey I think you’re ready to go make money playing basketball if that’s what you feel you’re ready to do” then that’s okay with me. EJ can make a good living playing ball, but it won’t be in the NBA. I think the trajectory Brooks is on has him leaping Montgomery for the starting 4 spot and we have a 5* Jackson coming in who may be better too. Wish EJ would’ve stayed but this loss honestly doesn’t hurt much.
Well, if he "likes" it so much, what exactly is holding him back? Plenty of room.
I haven't watched much of Kuminga, is he just a close to the basket scorer or can he handle the ball as well. What's his game like? UK will need a post presence badly.