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DanielUKwildcats

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death rate is close to 4 percent globally. south korea, italy, (rest of the world) have guaranteed health care. Its in the best interest of those countries to have tests. Here it has to be touched by every pharmaceutical company and make sure their profit margins are correct and then they can distribute. Dont think america wants access to tests all over either cause our numbers will grow big time. Heaven forbid that messes of dowjones even more.
whoever creates a ID after this virus is the worst!!
 
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Wildcats1st

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China was far more prepared...not even close.

And not to make it political (but I will kinda), it isn't on current POTUS.

China was prepared because their people are oppressed and have no freedom other than what government gives them. So if the government says go in your house and don’t come out for a month people will do it or disappear. The USA is a free and open system in which people revolt if the government tells them what to do. With a free open society you’re never prepared to lockdown your country. If Rudy gobert had pulled that garbage in China he would be in a work camp for 20 years maybe even executed. Don’t confuse freedom with ill preparedness
 
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The main fear we should have is not the deadliness of the virus, but of it’s impact on the economy, as well as the overall societal structure currently in place.

Low to mid-salary workers are the backbone of large corporations. Take for example delivery truck drivers for Walmart/Kroger etc. If a few of them get sick, other workers are more likely to call in sick/claim sick. The current consensus is those infected or in contact with infected need to quarantine for two weeks. The work force could really take a hit here causing lasting impacts across many forms of commerce.

Of course well-feeling adults who need money will work but there’s a lot of hysteria right now. It’s hard to predict what could happen but the **** happening in Italy is downright scary.

There’s also the fear that hospitals can’t handle the surge in infected patients as well as those presenting with somewhat milder symptoms. Hospitals simply cannot handle large surges of a virus that causes symptoms for weeks.

I think the media is causing a lot more hysteria that is warranted but you’re in denial to think this will just be a footnote in history. This is a big deal. I don’t trust China and the numbers they’re reporting either.
 

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Read something interesting today about the death rate:

  • China says its 3.4%
  • In Italy it’s over 5%, but that’s because the population is significantly older
  • A study published last month of the first 72,000 cases showed a death rate of 2.4%
  • “Experts” (which just means the ones they talked to for this article, who would Day what the writer wanted to write) say there’s little chance that a death rate of over 3% can sustain, it will lower as there are more cases.....

Unless South Korea has significantly better healthcare or a secret cure they’re hiding, their death rate of ~0.7% is much closer to reality. Even then, I hope it will drop even further, as even their testing isn’t ubiquitous.
 

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Whatever you do, PLEASE don’t inform yourself on this issue here. Most of what I’ve read in threads is really bad, misinformed, ignorant, if not outright dangerous. This thread notwithstanding. Educate yourself. Be curious.

THIS!!!!

Damn near every single number quoted in this thread is wrong or mentioned out of context. If the numbers don't come directly from the CDC, its basically crap. Also, you are watching science unfold. The measure errors are extreme, still. There is no reliable baseline. There is not a uniformly available test kit. The growth rate reflects test kit distribution as much as virus propagation. Politics is playing HUGE role. Everyone is spinning this to the tune of their political affiliation, here, in the media and elsewhere. The decisions are being made to manage many things, not just the death rate.

Oh . . . and wash your damn hands!

The fan generated basketball info here is largely incorrect. Why would you trust this board for disease control?
 

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one of the biggest myths is that it only effects old people. its just as dangerous with fat people and people who smoke. but there are so many folks making it about politics and sticking to their guns. blaming the media instead of accepting reality.

also the side effects. the country only has about 65,000 ventilators. those will get consumed by people infected. the dude who has a heart attack and needs one, likely wont get one and will probably die. to say nothing of all the drugs that come from china. if that disrupts supply chain...
Agreed. This is far worse than just a couple of old people on their last leg anyways. I hope I’m wrong, but I suspect this will get a lot worse. Today was an unprecedented day in terms of everything that’s been canceled.
 

JesusCal90

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You could've already had coronavirus in your life and gotten over it and didn't know it that's what I've been trying to explain to folks. You get crap like this every year and you get over it you just call it the cold or sinus infection etc
 

kygrandpa

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Gross hysteria from a new form of flue, yes it's bad just like all the other new flue types that have come out over the years.. Is it going to take a few lives, maybe it will and does.. People with little common sense get excited to easily and need to calm down.. This will pass just like all the other illness that come around..
Just like kybassfan said, wash your hands and stay clean as much as possible.. This to will pass..

GBB
 
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Gross hysteria from a new form of flue, yes it's bad just like all the other new flue types that have come out over the years.. Is it going to take a few lives, maybe it will and does.. People with little common sense get excited to easily and need to calm down.. This will pass just like all the other illness that come around..
Just like kybassfan said, wash your hands and stay clean as much as possible.. This to will pass..

GBB
I hope to god you’re right about it being overblown but I fear you are wrong. We will know within a few weeks, I guess.
 
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Unless South Korea has significantly better healthcare or a secret cure they’re hiding, their death rate of ~0.7% is much closer to reality. Even then, I hope it will drop even further, as even their testing isn’t ubiquitous.
They are testing and asking people to quarantine if dx or have underlying issues and catching it quickly.,, from reports I have seen.
They are the only country with common sense.
 

kygrandpa

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I hope to god you’re right about it being overblown but I fear you are wrong. We will know within a few weeks, I guess.


If it's your time to pass from this world you are gone and nothing can save you except God Almighty.. When He decides it is your time to go, well good bye.. I don't want to see anyone die from anything much less a new kind of flue..

GBB
 
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The 4 % death rate is a joke.

“The fatality rate for coronavirus in South Korea is 0.7%. Globally the World Health Organization has reported 3.4% - but scientists estimate that the death rate is lower because not all cases are reported.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/*world-asia-51836898


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

not sure what you are talking. its between 3 to 4 percent. unreported cases isnt very scientific lol. also this might scare you but.. president trump doesnt walk on water and fox news isnt always right. If you are old or have other medical issues its far more deadly. i know some of you want to pretend this is no big deal and like trump says its so mild you wont even know you have it. the whole world isnt shutting down over a flu. Lots of unknowns still with this virus and guess what I dont want it. could it mutate? could it get stronger or more resistant to drugs? any long term issues we dont know about? not xenophobic but china and diseases together scare me. even better knowing you can be asymptomatic and still give it to every person on the planet. just cause at the moment the majority dying are the elderly doesnt mean its nothing or not an issue. You want to have it and give it to your grandfather or grandmother? or how about someone who is already sick? so wake up and stop believing what the biggest liar on the planet is saying. dont be political and use some common sense. only numbers being fudged are the american numbers considering people cant be tested like in other countries. again artificially keep the numbers low and pretend its no big deal.

in a couple months the new estimates will be how many people died from this that went unreported . dont get tested, die.. cant say it was coronavirus LOL
 

JesusCal90

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

not sure what you are talking. its between 3 to 4 percent. unreported cases isnt very scientific lol. also this might scare you but.. president trump doesnt walk on water and fox news isnt always right. If you are old or have other medical issues its far more deadly. i know some of you want to pretend this is no big deal and like trump says its so mild you wont even know you have it. the whole world isnt shutting down over a flu. Lots of unknowns still with this virus and guess what I dont want it. could it mutate? could it get stronger or more resistant to drugs? any long term issues we dont know about? not xenophobic but china and diseases together scare me. even better knowing you can be asymptomatic and still give it to every person on the planet. just cause at the moment the majority dying are the elderly doesnt mean its nothing or not an issue. You want to have it and give it to your grandfather or grandmother? or how about someone who is already sick? so wake up and stop believing what the biggest liar on the planet is saying. dont be political and use some common sense. only numbers being fudged are the american numbers considering people cant be tested like in other countries. again artificially keep the numbers low and pretend its no big deal.

in a couple months the new estimates will be how many people died from this that went unreported . dont get tested, die.. cant say it was coronavirus LOL

when I hear someone mention Fox News as if it's conservative anymore I realize that they're six time zones behind their own ***
 
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Most people recover from it without even realizing they have it.
says Donald trump lol
jesus christ. how many idiots have the flu and not know they have it? what he was probably saying all the people who cant afford to get tested or see a doctor wont have confirmation they have it.

safe to assume a few million people have it and dont know ?? ahahhaah

use some common sense damn.
 

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If it's your time to pass from this world you are gone and nothing can save you except God Almighty.. When He decides it is your time to go, well good bye.. I don't want to see anyone die from anything much less a new kind of flue..

GBB

God helps those who help themselves.
 
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If it's your time to pass from this world you are gone and nothing can save you except God Almighty.. When He decides it is your time to go, well good bye.. I don't want to see anyone die from anything much less a new kind of flue..

GBB

This guy probably thinks the Salem witch trials were just.
 

KRJ1975

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Mark Cuban - “This is about more than money and when we are going to start again. I’m worried about my kids and my mom. “

Trump - “stock market rules, this is a nothingburger,”
 

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Mark Cuban - “This is about more than money and when we are going to start again. I’m worried about my kids and my mom. “

Trump - “stock market rules, this is a nothingburger,”
Marty - " I gotta get my seeds in the ground this weekend,, and get drugs"
 

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THIS!!!!

Damn near every single number quoted in this thread is wrong or mentioned out of context. If the numbers don't come directly from the CDC, its basically crap. Also, you are watching science unfold. The measure errors are extreme, still. There is no reliable baseline. There is not a uniformly available test kit. The growth rate reflects test kit distribution as much as virus propagation. Politics is playing HUGE role. Everyone is spinning this to the tune of their political affiliation, here, in the media and elsewhere. The decisions are being made to manage many things, not just the death rate.

Oh . . . and wash your damn hands!

The fan generated basketball info here is largely incorrect. Why would you trust this board for disease control?
5 days ago Trump said anybody who needs a test can get a test and the tests are perfect.
 

HerrosHeroes

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The main fear we should have is not the deadliness of the virus, but of it’s impact on the economy, as well as the overall societal structure currently in place.

Low to mid-salary workers are the backbone of large corporations. Take for example delivery truck drivers for Walmart/Kroger etc. If a few of them get sick, other workers are more likely to call in sick/claim sick. The current consensus is those infected or in contact with infected need to quarantine for two weeks. The work force could really take a hit here causing lasting impacts across many forms of commerce.

Of course well-feeling adults who need money will work but there’s a lot of hysteria right now. It’s hard to predict what could happen but the **** happening in Italy is downright scary.

There’s also the fear that hospitals can’t handle the surge in infected patients as well as those presenting with somewhat milder symptoms. Hospitals simply cannot handle large surges of a virus that causes symptoms for weeks.

I think the media is causing a lot more hysteria that is warranted but you’re in denial to think this will just be a footnote in history. This is a big deal. I don’t trust China and the numbers they’re reporting either.
So whats the answer, is there one?
 
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THIS!!!!

Damn near every single number quoted in this thread is wrong or mentioned out of context. If the numbers don't come directly from the CDC, its basically crap. Also, you are watching science unfold. The measure errors are extreme, still. There is no reliable baseline. There is not a uniformly available test kit. The growth rate reflects test kit distribution as much as virus propagation. Politics is playing HUGE role. Everyone is spinning this to the tune of their political affiliation, here, in the media and elsewhere. The decisions are being made to manage many things, not just the death rate.

Oh . . . and wash your damn hands!

The fan generated basketball info here is largely incorrect. Why would you trust this board for disease control?
CDC has to get their numbers from somewhere. We know China is lying about theirs.
 

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They are testing and asking people to quarantine if dx or have underlying issues and catching it quickly.,, from reports I have seen.
They are the only country with common sense.

There’s no great reason more testing will lower the death rate, the super sick still end up in the hospital after they’ve gotten pneumonia. Some may catch pneumonia there when they go in early, and there are studies showing that hospital-strains of pneumonia have higher mortality rates than otherwise.

It could lower the contamination rate potentially by encouraging self-quarantines though.
 

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Well, my neighbor got it on a cruise last week and now I'm pretty sure I've got it. Don't even think testing is available in my area, so no way to be 100% sure. If this is it, not too bad so far.
 

HerrosHeroes

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Well, my neighbor got it on a cruise last week and now I'm pretty sure I've got it. Don't even think testing is available in my area, so no way to be 100% sure. If this is it, not too bad so far.
How long have your symptoms been going on and what are they?
 

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Instead of shutting down venues and businesses, they need to just shut down the internet and communications so people can stop spreading all sorts of disinformation.

All of you idiots are trying to act like Covid-19 experts and not a damn one of you morons has any f'ing clue what you are actually talking about. Just stop.
 
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The link above focuses on USA only, so it'll kind of give you an idea why sudden increase in action past couple days.

just three days ago, we had increase of barely over 100. Yesterday it ballooned to 290 new cases, and today it is well over 300 new cases reported in USA.

Basically USA is showing exponential growth in new cases, which is probably going to cause chain reaction of events. This growth path is eerily similar to Italy's growth path.

We also are reporting highest death rate today with +8, which is still very low, but likely these numbers will continue to grow as well.
It’s increased at a rate of 7.96 (796%) from March 4 to March 11. If it were to continue at that rate, the entire country will have been infected at some points within just under the next 7 weeks. And that’s just numbers on confirmed cases, there are probably hundreds if not more walking around spreading it during the incubation period and they don’t even know they have it yet.

This is why such drastic measures are being taken. It is mission critical to slow the speed of infection or the hospital system will collapse and people who need to be treated aren’t going to be. Me to be treated. Hospitals and doctors will have to decide which patients they will treat and which ones will have to be cast aside to die.

Even if only .01% of people that contracted it died and it got to the point of infecting half the USA population
Unless South Korea has significantly better healthcare or a secret cure they’re hiding, their death rate of ~0.7% is much closer to reality. Even then, I hope it will drop even further, as even their testing isn’t ubiquitous.
SK also primarily has tested younger people because the first case of it came from a younger person who was in a huge cluster of people who’ve skewed younger. The median age of the people they’ve tested has been 40. The death rate from confirmed cases there is going to be younger just because of who they’ve tested.

Meanwhile Italy and China has primarily tested older people. China’s median age is 50 and Italy’s 65.
 
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You could've already had coronavirus in your life and gotten over it and didn't know it that's what I've been trying to explain to folks. You get crap like this every year and you get over it you just call it the cold or sinus infection etc
I’ve never heard of a person dying from a cold or sinus infection unless it caused something more serious to develop like pneumonia and had that kill them.
 
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Gross hysteria from a new form of flue, yes it's bad just like all the other new flue types that have come out over the years.. Is it going to take a few lives, maybe it will and does.. People with little common sense get excited to easily and need to calm down.. This will pass just like all the other illness that come around..
Just like kybassfan said, wash your hands and stay clean as much as possible.. This to will pass..

GBB
This thing has a kill rate 10x higher than the seasonal flu.
 
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