Did watch the video or just read the posts in this thread? Every player since Calipari has been here has said the same thing and no one was complaining when UK was going to final fours but now it’s an embarrassment. I’m fine with what we said
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I’m not persecuting the kid, I’m persecuting the culture that encourages this thinking and pretends it’s healthy. There’s nothing fun about going to college and saying get me out of here ASAP. That’s no way to run a program whose goal is entertainment.
People always want to say Cal is a good guy and these kids are good kids. Then they say all of these stories of kids wanting to stay are 100% fabricated. Cal saying he only cares about the name on the back of the jersey is only coach speak. That’s cold and sociopathic to just make that stuff up imo.
I think your opinion of these kids is lower than mine if you think they lie through their teeth when they tell these stories.
I only would have preferred him not to mention it so the fans that get outraged at everything didn't have more fuel.
Lol, where did I say they come here to be miserable?
You should go back and read real slow and try comprehending at the same time! It's a whole different experience.
Not really. New generations take over when others pass on. Our fans have become more and more unbearable over the last couple of decades. Just looks at the amount of time in consumes in many of their lives and how it impacts them.
Most players just don't want to be exposed to the negative side of that.
Thank you for proving my point!
I get the frustration but what does anybody expect him to say he is a potential lottery pick atleast he is being up front unlike the sharpe situation
Let him go to the league. Finished with these overrated chumps.
It's only an issue for you because you have an interest in them staying to win games for a team you cheer for. In every other profession if you can excel at the highest level at a young age and without finishing college you take that chance everytime.
Just so happens outside of sports no one gives a **** when Bill Gates drops out to start Microsoft etc.
It's not an unhealthy mindset to try to capitalize on earning potential immediately regardless of your field.
Final Fours? Almost a decade past since that happened. It is a embarrassment.
The mindset of this board and our fans in general is fragile. They want top players, but then they want those top players to say that they want to stay at UK as long as possible. Meanwhile, if a top player did say that, our fans would go on the attack and say that he's just lying and don't get your hopes up. You really cannot win with our fanbase.
This isn’t every other profession. There are players that are willing to stay multiple years, develop, and play for UK and not just themselves but our coach refuses to get basically any of them. How is it possible that we can get basically 0 players that really want to play for UK and the university and stay multiple years.
You're not wrong here. They long for the day when the NBA paid peanuts and didn't draft as much on potential.
They want the best players but only if they play for the front of the Jersey and stay 4 years. Bonus points if they are from KY.
Reality is culture as a whole has changed in sports. It's not coming back. Either get some of these players to compete regularly or get passed by.
Funniest thing about all of these comments is he'll be one of the favorites on the team by the way he plays lol Kid plays hard every possession and doesn't take any plays off. Defends like a monster and gets to the basket at will. He said the quiet part out loud. For every MKG who wanted to stay there's a thousand dudes like Archie Goodwin.
This past years team seemed like they loved it here. Oscar, Kellen, Davion, and TyTy all seemed like they were having the times of their lives. Kids have dreams.
Let's be honest too, we're not the friendliest of fanbases. Kid has a bad game and you got dudes in their mentions telling them they're awful and shouldn't be here. The first 5 years of Cal set this massive bar of success that he'll never be able to reach again and we judge kids based off that.
And face it, we're not the swaggy team anymore. That's Duke. Our social media presence has been god awful until this year. We ran Drake off bc of him getting us these minor *** sanctions. Cal doesn't really seem to be the swaggy guy anymore and outside of like Book who else reps us hard in the NBA. You see Zion, Kyrie, Tatum all rep Duke every chance they get. Davis and KAT used to but idk what happened there. Herro, Fox, Malik do a little bit here and there
This past years team seemed like they loved it here. Oscar, Kellen, Davion, and TyTy all seemed like they were having the times of their lives. Kids have dreams.
Let's be honest too, we're not the friendliest of fanbases. Kid has a bad game and you got dudes in their mentions telling them they're awful and shouldn't be here. The first 5 years of Cal set this massive bar of success that he'll never be able to reach again and we judge kids based off that.
And face it, we're not the swaggy team anymore. That's Duke. Our social media presence has been god awful until this year. We ran Drake off bc of him getting us these minor *** sanctions. Cal doesn't really seem to be the swaggy guy anymore and outside of like Book who else reps us hard in the NBA. You see Zion, Kyrie, Tatum all rep Duke every chance they get. Davis and KAT used to but idk what happened there. Herro, Fox, Malik do a little bit here and there
How is it notike every other profession? There isn't some exception here because it's basketball. The top prospects are gonna take advantage and get paid now rather than be an intern.
I just can't make myself be mad at the kid. Cal sold it and he bought it. He articulated why every single kid Cal recruits comes here. This is UK has been for years. Nobody comes here to play for UK they come to get ready for the league, that's why we always have 3 or 4 guys a year leave before they are ready or just transfer out. Thye never had any intention of staying here more than a year. If they can't get to the league they aren't staying here. Our culture has become a 1 year training academy for the NBA and for all of you guys that want to chime in its that way everywhere it isnt. The is a team this year competing for their 3rd title in 10 years and they don't recruit in this fashion. Neither did last years winner. Cals culture stinks it is ruining Kentucky basketball tradition.
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Yeah this is the DUMBEST thing ever posted here, and that's saying a lot.
Must be a huge Keion Brooks fan right? Maybe Lance Ware! I tease. Sounds like you like how Nova runs things and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Where are the enablers and danglers to laud this as a positive for us?
Don't be a jerk. Dude is coming in next year as a player on the team you love and is just being honest. If you want to attack, attack Cal. He ain't even on campus and you're calling him names, which I find bizarre because he's a kid and you're much older I assume.
Where did I say I want them to stay another year when they shouldn’t? My concern is if your mindset is to get out ASAP then why would you give 110% in March when it’s prolonging the unnecessary?
It’s no wonder we’re losing games in March we shouldn’t when I hear this kind of talk. Cal has made this water bed and we’re drowning in it.
Leadbelly's sock has already said that his comments are the fault of the fans.
It's not entirely wrong. We are one of the more Toixc fan bases but I think a lot of it is just because we care so much more than any other fanbase. Cal's first 5 years set a bar and he's not even remotely come close to it since then and we're angry and frustrated at the state of the program.
Yeah cuz Bam and Fox didn't absolutely breakdown after they lost.
One can, at the same time, want to go to the NBA and love your teammates, time in college, and give it your all. To act like the two things are mutually exclusive is disingenuous. Judge Cason on the character that he demonstrates during the season not on your presumption because a kid was being honest about his goals.
Yes. He's ENTIRELY wrong. The fans did not create this situation. The fans have NO SAY, remember? This program is run by the AD and the coach, only. The fans are owed nothing, they contribute nothing - so say the Caltards.
I mean they can say that all they want. They can also lick my butthole
It's obvious why a kid coming to UK under Cal feels fine saying this.Nothing to hide as it's players first.Not the UK team first.
The other poster is delusional. Wallace will make more money by 25 than almost anyone on here will make in a career. Even if he flames put after his rookie contract and spends the next 12 to 15 years playing overseas.
I certainly can't judge an 18 yea3r old who wants to be rich and famous before he is 25 AND has a realistic shot at doing it. Put that opportunity in front of me at that age and I'm all in. Some 1 and done play like mad Men, the kid from Okla State a couple of years ago or that point guard that played for Gonzaga, or even the Banchero kid this year. The real reason Cals system has broken down in last few years is we haven't been getting ANY of them The guys we have gotten are a wrung below.As the season progresses and their performance doesn't match their lofty expectations and they begin working about their draft prospects plummeting g, then we get an amalgamation of late year results, season ending injuries, tightening up OR playing hero ball. We even have guys like Boston who completely opt out before we stop playing, remember his 0 point performance in the SEC Tourney. So if Cal is gonna turn it around Given he will not change he has to recruit at LEAsT 2 difference makers EVERY YEAR.
Cal loves every minute of that....that's what he has done to UK and he doesn't care one iota......Would love to hear they canned him tonight
No one is saying they don't want him to have an NBA career but can he wait until he actually plays here to talk about it?I mean we are about to lose a kid who never bothered playing.
Before, cal sold this as a great experience. Come here compete, get better, and win THEN go to the nba. Somewhere along the way he repackaged it to not include anything but the NBA.
All 5 stars want to do that. Why would they hide it. If you were a 5 star and had a chance to play in the nba a year after college
agreed. Everyone who disagrees is an idiot. Any 5 star with a chance at the nba wants to get there as soon as possible. And why wouldn’t they? If any of you had a chance to go make 7 or 8 figures in the next year, you’d also do whatever possible to get there . Get off your Kentucky high horse
What's the difference if he says it out loud compared to just leaving after a season. You should just realize this is the mindset of nearly every single top recruit and not take offense.
It's funny because when they are defending Cal, they say the fans have no power to do anything so they just need to suck it up and hush about Cal.
But then say the fans are the problem . It;s because they are Cal fans, not UK fans. Anyone that is ok with what Wallace said ( I do not blame the kid) doesn't see that Cal is ruining UK basketball with that kind of mindset and culture.
Yep, I get worn out by the constant roster changes as well, but BBN is old school as can be and whether this board wants to admit it or not, many here have some ancient old school Billy Reed type takes as if college basketball should be like it was 50 years ago. It's like rafters can't comprehend that these dudes didn't grow up bleeding blue and can't name every coach in our history in order.
I think that's one thing that irks a few on this board. Money in sports in insane now and I remember Herro was practically shunned here by some after he bought a house and a sports car once he got to the league. Just be happy for these guys. Don't get bitter and say things like "he'll be broke by the time he's 30 grumble grumble." I'll never understand the outright bitterness shown by some on a UK fan site towards our players whose ultimate goal is to play professionally.
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Now give us an insight on who you are? Did you play for the Cats? Just curious how you have insight on players.