Cade Cunningham: I have a theory

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Well, we do have 8 titles in 100 years or basketball. Cal has put us in great positions to win a title year after year after year.

We are far from looking “weak.”
I was referring to chasing kids that only use us for publicity. And, IMO, with the amount of talent that has walked through our doors in the last 10 years, we should have more than 8. But that’s a conversation for a different thread.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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OK State isn't getting slapped, their assistant was taking small dollars to steer two kids toward an agent and only one even got drafted (2nd round). He wasn't passing money to players or recruits like some other programs are dealing with.

Do the people in your athletic department still exhibit infantile rage quit moments in public?



There's a very real reason Underwood traded in OSU for Illinois.


Think about that for a moment. Your former coach left your program for Illinois.

Let that sink in.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Well, we do have 8 titles in 100 years of basketball. Cal has put us in great positions to win a title year after year after year.

We are far from looking “weak.”

8 titles since 1939, when the NCAA started the tournament (ran through the NABC at the time).

That's 8 titles in 80 years. One title per decade on average.


If we count the pre-1939 era, UK has more titles due to the Helm's realities.

I'm with you on all your other points.
 

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It's a theory dude, I never said I was hanging on to anything.
I think we can all agree that the urgent meeting that Cal ran.out there for is strange.
Yeah but noone knows for a fact that parents called Cal. Maybe Cal just felt he needed to get down there. Idk I'm never optimistic on recruiting till the kid is committed. Kinda had a feeling family would win out. Usually does. That's why I never got hyped over the 10 page thread saying we got him. It probably came down to UK and OSU but OSU started getting friends to commit and with his brother there. It's over.
 
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kyjeff1

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Yeah but noone knows for a fact that parents called Cal. Maybe Cal just felt he needed to get down there. Idk I'm never optimistic on recruiting till the kid is committed. Kinda had a feeling family would win out. Usually does. That's why I never got hyped over the 10 page thread saying we got him. It probably came down to UK and OSU but OSU started getting friends to commit and with his brother there. It's over.
I thought it was a well known fact that the Cunningham's asked Cal to come out immediately, but maybe I'm mistaken.

Also, I honestly thought this case was different because of the trouble OsU is in and that UK really made a strong case for him.

Oh well, it is what it is. I hope OsU completely misses the tournament and Clark gets picked ahead of Cade. That's all.
 

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I believe Cade would make us a better team, but maybe Cal turns Askew into a higher draft pick and proves again what he can do.

I have read a couple of analysts that said they thought that CC was probably the better player, but that the style that Askew played, they thought he might be better for the team that Cal would put on the floor. Either way, Askew only needs one summer course, and I think he now goes 2020. I am so thankful we got him.
 

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Evan Daniels picked UK in his crystal ball because Cade committed to Cal when he flew down there. The kid flipped. This is why I feel for Dave in situations like this - getting ruthlessly attacked on the board - and why lots of folks quit posting information here. Jaden and Cade are two classic recruiting situations - just cannot trust what teenagers say until it's official.
That didn’t happen....he was OSU all the way
 

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Just stop...you don’t want to compare football programs! Better stick to b ball

I wasn't aware that your football program was much more than a pleasure toy from which programs like Oklahoma could use for their personal enjoyment on cold autumn nights.

18-80 against Oklahoma all time.
9-25 against Texas.
9-17 against Texas A&M.
5-37 against Nebraska.

But I do understand how every fan base thinks their program is "nationally" relevant to the fans involved.

On that level, the whole "cult of fandom" works great right up until the moment you realize that no one outside your own Kool-Aid drinking fan base acknowledges your program as being any more than "okay" in virtually every sport.

:clap::clap::clap:Congrats on being marginal in every sport that matters. :clap::clap::clap:
 

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If cal makes a slight comment in reference. Then i say cade is completely gone. If cade signs, then comment comes then that should give us better idea of what that meeting was for. I think the cunninghams are leaving door open some. Until signing period. But... Maybe the meeting was about osu and what they sorta heard as resassurance. That we gonna be safe now to go with the school we wanted but couldnt actually sign dotted line. Cause of allegations cloud! Its not a far fetch theory. Everyone will stay hush for now! Until truth gets leaked!
 

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Here’s my honest question: do you see Ok St w/ Cade doing better than LSU when they had Ben Simmons? Both seem like similar situations to me, top/elite level players who picked a smaller b-ball school due to family connections. It didn’t work out for LSU, guess time will tell for Ok St.
 

kyjeff1

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We would treat your football program like the little ***** you are. SEC, SEC! Your conference has no baring on your football program
Oh, so you think playing Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Auburn, LSU, aTm and Mississippi State has nothing to do with UK losing more football games than a program that gets to play weak *** BIG12 teams not named Oklahoma?

When is the last time Oklahoma State won anything of note in football?

Check that, when is the last time oklahoma State won anything of note in ANY sport? Baseball? Running from tornadoes? Sheep raping? What?
 
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Dave also hinted that it may be osu upfront. But things could very well go wrong. And at end of day he lands at uk! Thats what i read awhile back. Its not a promise. It was a suggestion on certain circumstances. The meeting happened and more than likely was this subject. Cal is it gonna be ok? Cal could of told them yes or no we moving on!!! We dont kno. As im never right.
 
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OK State isn't getting slapped, their assistant was taking small dollars to steer two kids toward an agent and only one even got drafted (2nd round). He wasn't passing money to players or recruits like some other programs are dealing with.
Who cares! OKST sucks! Cade isn't going to change that. It will be similar to Trae Young going to OK. They lost like 10 straight and were a joke. OKST isn't event even the sweat on UK's nutsack. We will be going for a title next year while Cade watches from home. Nothing changes! The Big Blue Machine Keeps Rolling On!
 
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We just beat #1 in MSG to become #1 last night and we probably will have the #1 class next year. Yeah, we cryin LMFAO. Somewhere last night Askew was smiling. Cade trolled UK, but now he has to go to Stillwater. I like our chances of looking better than him at the end of this.
 

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Classless? You have a few posters wishing injury on Cunningham because he didn’t commit to your program. That’s classless!
Though a couple of good people called them out for their bs
Are you really this dumb? It’s not because he picked osu. It’s how the ******* went about it that pissed people off. In a week or two nobody will give a damn about Cade, UK will still be winning and OSUjr will still be losing.
 

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New flash here dipsh*t. We are better at every sport than you besides basketball. We have almost 5 times the amount of NCAA championships you do. And we just won a golf national title in 2018 so there is the win for any sport you were looking for there sweetheart. And Kentucky being in the SEC doesn’t mean anything. You played only 2 good teams this year out of how many? How many of said games did you win? What was the Big 12/SEC Bowl record last year? Give me a break clown.
You came to a basketball forum to talk about titles in golf? Golf really?!! Congratulations you guys are good in two things that nobody gives a **** about. Wrestling and golf (I had to look that up). Hahahahahahaha!
 

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Just stop...you don’t want to compare football programs! Better stick to b ball

what exactly have you all won in football? I mean we readily admit we are historically mediocre in football, it seems you have a false sense of superiority. You’re not Oklahoma, Bama, Ohio St etc...

You’re not elite in basketball (that’s for damn sure) and you’re also not elite in football.

Edit- you did birth my favorite player of all time, Barry Sanders... so that’s cool!!
 
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New flash here dipsh*t. We are better at every sport than you besides basketball. We have almost 5 times the amount of NCAA championships you do. And we just won a golf national title in 2018 so there is the win for any sport you were looking for there sweetheart. And Kentucky being in the SEC doesn’t mean anything. You played only 2 good teams this year out of how many? How many of said games did you win? What was the Big 12/SEC Bowl record last year? Give me a break clown.

You signed up to post this? lol

Another quality first post lol
 
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kyjeff1

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New flash here dipsh*t. We are better at every sport than you besides basketball. We have almost 5 times the amount of NCAA championships you do. And we just won a golf national title in 2018 so there is the win for any sport you were looking for there sweetheart. And Kentucky being in the SEC doesn’t mean anything. You played only 2 good teams this year out of how many? How many of said games did you win? What was the Big 12/SEC Bowl record last year? Give me a break clown.
LMAO
 
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FrankUnderwood

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The Kentucky guys on reddit said you guys are the peanut gallery of UK fans and damn they’re right. Absolute bums on this site hoping a kid gets a life changing injury for not picking their school. They’re ashamed of you guys for the most part which is unfortunate cause I’m sure there are like 12 good people on here but the rest are whiny pussies. As Buzz Lightyear once said, “No sign of intelligent life anywhere”. I didn’t know he was talking about rupp rafters when he said it.


You okay bro? [roll]
 
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The Kentucky guys on reddit said you guys are the peanut gallery of UK fans and damn they’re right. Absolute bums on this site hoping a kid gets a life changing injury for not picking their school. They’re ashamed of you guys for the most part which is unfortunate cause I’m sure there are like 12 good people on here but the rest are whiny pussies. As Buzz Lightyear once said, “No sign of intelligent life anywhere”. I didn’t know he was talking about rupp rafters when he said it.

and yet........here you are.
 
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The Kentucky guys on reddit said you guys are the peanut gallery of UK fans and damn they’re right. Absolute bums on this site hoping a kid gets a life changing injury for not picking their school. They’re ashamed of you guys for the most part which is unfortunate cause I’m sure there are like 12 good people on here but the rest are whiny pussies. As Buzz Lightyear once said, “No sign of intelligent life anywhere”. I didn’t know he was talking about rupp rafters when he said it.

What does it say about someone who logs onto a UK message board and uses maybe two posters and their posts as being fully indicative of the thousands of posters who post on said message board?

You might want to check your moralizing. You come off as a knee-jerk-reactionary blow hard who is incapable of deciphering the complexity of his intended sample size.
 
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There’s been a lot of random fly by posters from smaller programs who’ve popped up here, but Ok St fans are shooting up to the top as the absolute worse. Really reminds me of those LSU fans who were beating their chest when Simmons was there, and then failed to even make the tournament.
 

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It’s a big deal if you want another title anytime soon. Facts are facts and, while we are still recruiting well, we are not landing our main targets. Hell, we’ve put AD, KAT, and Boogie in the league and we can’t even land a decent big man. We’re hoping to land second tier bigs in Jackson and Omouryi (sp?) now. Sure we have pieces to be good, but I want U.K. to be great. I sure as hell want another title and I know I’m not the only one that knows it makes it a lot harder to win a title when you’re wiffing on your main targets. Makes it damn frustrating too when top recruits lead us on and use us just to build their brand. Makes us look weak.

Yet, we were one game away from the Final Four last year and just led the preseason #1 team from start to finish.

We've had a harder time landing the top 5 kids because programs are cheating out of their asses to try and keep pace.

I've advocated for a staff shakeup for the past few years, but sometimes **** just happens. If Memphis doesn't hire Penny, Wiseman is at Kentucky. Oklahoma State hires Cade's brother as an assistant for the sole purpose of getting him there.

I just refuse to believe that these top big men are choosing other programs over Kentucky via clean, legit recruitments. It just doesn't make sense. Not only is our HC the best recruiter in the modern era, but we have arguably the best big man developer in Kenny Payne. Former players who are doing quite well in the NBA rave about Payne's coaching and development that prepared them for the next level.

It's why KAT has severely outperformed Okafor, and why PJ Washington is already making more noise than any other rookie frontcourt player that I've seen thus far, averaging 15 and 6. Bam is at 12 and 8. Randle is at 14 and 9.

Name the last top big man in the NBA to come out of Washington. Out of Oregon? You can't? Cause they've had none. Yet, we lost, not one, not 2, but 5 frontcourt players to the Huskies and Ducks in the last 2 classes.

They're out West cheating their asses off until someone, or something, stops them. Won't be the NCAA.
 
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Yet, we were one game away from the Final Four last year and just led the preseason #1 team from start to finish.

We've had a harder time landing the top 5 kids because programs are cheating out of their asses to try and keep pace.

I've advocated for a staff shakeup for the past few years, but sometimes **** just happens. If Memphis doesn't hire Penny, Wiseman is at Kentucky. Oklahoma State hires Cade's brother as an assistant for the sole purpose of getting him there.

I just refuse to believe that these top big men are choosing other programs over Kentucky via clean, legit recruitments. It just doesn't make sense. Not only is our HC the best recruiter in the modern era, but we have arguably the best big man developer in Kenny Payne. Former players who are doing quite well in the NBA rave about Payne's coaching and development that prepared them for the next level.

It's why KAT has severely outperformed Okafor, and why PJ Washington is already making more noise than any other rookie frontcourt player that I've seen thus far, averaging 15 and 6. Bam is at 12 and 8. Randle is at 14 and 9.

Name the last top big man in the NBA to come out of Washington. Out of Oregon? You can't? Cause they've had none. Yet, we lost, not one, not 2, but 5 frontcourt players to the Huskies and Ducks in the last 2 classes.

They're out West cheating their asses off until someone, or something, stops them. Won't be the NCAA.
Couldn’t have said it better
 

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You came to a basketball forum to talk about titles in golf? Golf really?!! Congratulations you guys are good in two things that nobody gives a **** about. Wrestling and golf (I had to look that up). Hahahahahahaha!

Well well we have like 25 national championships in cheerleading so HA!
 
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