BJ Boston Decision Article

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The only one on this team that has any business entering the draft is Jackson. He is a freak and some have him as a lottery pick so I can understand him leaving. Boston and Clake have no business leaving. They still haven't conquered college. Wait until they are getting banged around by grown-*** men in the league. I will not mention any other names because outside of those 3 there isn't anyone that should even think NBA right now.

We have to get back to if you aren't a first-round pick you return. I understand Boston might still be taken in the 1st, but he was supposed to be a lottery pick. I don't think it's crazy to think he could fall out of the 1st round. Clarke should be all in for returning. He barely played and didn't light the world on fire when he did. Having said that I'm sure they all go. Some of these guys need to be shown what PJ did. We need more PJ's, Nick's, and Quickly's.

Even still if we only lost those 3 it wouldn't be too bad, but I'm sure others will go. Sarr needs to stay more than anyone with a decision to make. If Sarr and Mintz came back we might have something as far as turning the tide of this revolving door. I think IJ, Clarke and Boston were gone before they got here. If I'm wrong I would be pleasantly surprised.
 

ManitouDan_anon

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Why would you not want a player with great potential to come back his 2nd year? He has tried all year and hasn't had a bit of quit in him.

I disagree . But that’s ok . He hasn’t always dogged it , but his effort is more of a performance for his documentary not for the Kentucky Wildcats .. he is using us . And I won’t support it .
 

deep3

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I believe there's zero chance this kid stays, zero. This is just another article like we've read every year and then boom, mass exodus, this year will be no different, only way, is that it will likely be worse. I believe he should and ultimately it would be beneficial to both parties, though this is Cal we're talking about...he's gone.

If this kid wants ANY CHANCE at a career in the NBA he would return but his handlers are going to say take the dough and he will play in the G-league. Whoever drafts him will bring him up just because they wasted a 1st round pick on him at some point and he will be gone from the league fast. I will root for the kids success for he and his family absolutely but that league will destroy a 6'7 kid with zero quickness, zero explosiveness, average vertical, zero lift on his jumper for the most part and a very sketchy handle.
 

deep3

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This is why we should play in the NIT if we can get an invite. WCS said the Robert Morris loss was instrumental in his returning. Sometimes it takes that extra nudge to show a player they’re not ready.

That said, BJ was probably gone before he set foot on campus.
Question do you honestly believe the NIT would take a 9-16 team? They would get annihilated, rightfully so. They need to get this **** show over soon and the less people that see Boston in game action will be much much better for the young man.
 

Pickle_Rick

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The may all leave like usual but this year for certain any GM who takes anyone outside of IJ deserves to be fired.

Still won't stop them though. They only players I want back are Jackson, Mintz, Keion, and Toppin. Jackson should go if he needs the money. If he waits a year, he and Oscar could go 1, 2, in the draft.
 
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tls

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You don’t get it obviously. Boston got off to a very slow start and is just now starting to show glimpses of his potential. He’s getting better. He wouldn’t come back and suck: the difference in money over the long run is substantial if he comes back and has a better start. Short term thinking is why people go homeless. One and done isn’t for everyone especially for a guy who started the way Boston did.
Showing glimpses. Fleeting glimpses. I’m thinking he’ll pretty much be at this level forever
 
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G-PIP

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Still won't stop them though. They only players I want back are Jackson, Mintz, Keion, and Toppin. Jackson should go if he needs the money. If he waits a year, he and Oscar could go 1, 2, in the draft.
I don't think Tshiebwe is (and maybe never will be) an NBA draft darling. But he sure is likely to be a problem for teams in college. I think he's a good piece, but just a piece who needs other good players around him - particularly a backcourt that can score from the perimeter.
 

G-PIP

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so Why do we want multi year players then? Take a better side than that
I'm with you. We want those multi-year players because they are generally the best players in college - and college is the level we care about as UK fans. That doesn't mean we don't want all the players to be successful, what kind of screwed up person wouldn't want that (I know, the miserable and terrible exist, but we're talking the majority which are good people here).

However, I do think this year is different due to the severe roster imbalance. For example, I would almost always rather have a 4-star returning sophomore over a 5-star freshman - especially in the backcourt. But, you can't be successful with a team full of PFs. The roster needs a huge influx of guards; and if that means losing a good upperclass PF or two, I think the team would be better for it.
 

FrankUnderwood

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You don’t get it obviously. Boston got off to a very slow start and is just now starting to show glimpses of his potential. He’s getting better. He wouldn’t come back and suck: the difference in money over the long run is substantial if he comes back and has a better start. Short term thinking is why people go homeless. One and done isn’t for everyone especially for a guy who started the way Boston did.

“Glimpses of potential” is pretty broad and could he said for a slew of players around the country.
 

FrankUnderwood

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Remember when Boston got hot from 3 in consecutive games, and we were all "There he is! The Boston we expected!"

Since those games, he has shot 4/21 from 3 and 7/23 from 2.

He's a poor shooting, high usage guard. His greatest strength is that he doesn't turn the ball over. If he discovers any bit of shooting efficiency, he will bloom.

Isn’t it weird that so many basketball players don’t know how to shoot the basketball well?

Is Boston even able to run offensive sets and plays? Play defense?

Saying “if someone discovers any bit of shooting” could make 200 college players good too.
 

MychalG

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Boston has not shown anything that jumps out at me. Not bashing the kid but the things he does can be done by most players playing D-1 BB. His court awareness is not good, his jump shot needs work, he has not shown that he can beat his man of the dribble, his defense is suspect. He is not strong with the ball or physically strong. All that being said, I am sure he will leave after this year and honestly I don't care one way or the other what he does. I have grown tired of the one and done system and I am to the point where I don't care who leaves or who comes back.
 

so_obvious

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If the Celtics draft him his Jersey will have Boston on both sides.

That’s actually pretty cool.

And I would totally welcome him back. He could do himself a lot of good living in the weight room and proving why he was so highly touted. Kentucky fans would rally behind this kid if he came back. Not to mention he could make himself a lot more $$$$$. Can’t blame a kid for jumping on the opportunity to make life changing money... BUT, waiting a year to prove yourself and make sure you are both physically and mentally ready would do him a world of good.
 
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Any GM that drafts BJ Boston in the 1st round should be FIRED on the spot!!

What NBA coach places VALUE on a kid that is WEAK, can't shoot, can't finish at the rim, can't defend anywhere on the floor and is timid????

When I saw that scout giving his analysis on the Ole Miss game for Boston, I didn't know whether to laugh or be pissed off. When a player can play SOOOOOO horribly and STILL be projected to be drafted in the 1st round, what incentive should he have to play at a high level???

This article is a PRIME reason why Cal's system doesn't equate to winning at a high level anymore.
 

DavidHawk

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It’s funny that the same people who want Cal to keep players are the first to say “please leave BJ”. Show me a college player (walk on or scholarship) that doesn’t improve from more experience. It rarely happens that a player doesn’t get better with experience and another year of maturity. If we want a championship contender we need guys with the highest potential to come back. Doesn’t matter if you like him or not
 

Emarc

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It’s funny that the same people who want Cal to keep players are the first to say “please leave BJ”. Show me a college player (walk on or scholarship) that doesn’t improve from more experience. It rarely happens that a player doesn’t get better with experience and another year of maturity. If we want a championship contender we need guys with the highest potential to come back. Doesn’t matter if you like him or not
those posters just want what they feel fits theyre agenda.
 
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gojvc

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If this kid wants ANY CHANCE at a career in the NBA he would return but his handlers are going to say take the dough and he will play in the G-league. Whoever drafts him will bring him up just because they wasted a 1st round pick on him at some point and he will be gone from the league fast. I will root for the kids success for he and his family absolutely but that league will destroy a 6'7 kid with zero quickness, zero explosiveness, average vertical, zero lift on his jumper for the most part and a very sketchy handle.
It’s absolutely mind boggling to me that a team would use a first round pick on him.
 

K_TIME

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This is his full season stats to date

31 mpg 11.6 pts, 4.6 reb, 1.5 ***, 1.5 T0, 1 steal, 36% FG, 27% 3pt, 81%FT....

After a terrible start, he did play better a month ago for a stretch but the last 5 games has been back to really bad games (and I don't think it's coincidence that these were mainly physical teams in Ole Miss, Florida, Tenn, etc...).

Those are Saul Smith level stats of ineffecient play while playing tons of minutes to correct things. If a team wants to draft him, waste your time....it's almost why NBA is a joke. Kid can't shoot, lacks strength, has not toughness in him, isn't a plus defender, isn't explosive athlete, etc... What potential he has is an all-time mystery.
 
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Jmeeks54thebest

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Imagine watching BJ playing this season and thinking “wow, he’s got potential!” I swear, these nba scouts see “6’7 wing” and lose their effing minds.

He can’t dribble, defend, shoot, finish at the rim, pass, or run a offense. Where is the potential all these articles and nba scouts keep touting?

He needs to come back and change all these perceptions. The article is right, if he comes back and plays to his hs ranking he will go lottery next draft. I doubt he comes back but that is on the table for him.

He could also come back and suck again. And Cal won’t bench him no matter how bad he is, thats clear enough. So it could take him out of the draft entirely. Depends on his work ethic.
 

Kingslayer07

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STLCats and UKJeff would be in the fetal position if he came back. Or they would be up all night writing more hate mail towards him. One or the other.
 

MoneyMuntz

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Boston has not shown anything that jumps out at me. Not bashing the kid but the things he does can be done by most players playing D-1 BB. His court awareness is not good, his jump shot needs work, he has not shown that he can beat his man of the dribble, his defense is suspect. He is not strong with the ball or physically strong. All that being said, I am sure he will leave after this year and honestly I don't care one way or the other what he does. I have grown tired of the one and done system and I am to the point where I don't care who leaves or who comes back.
You do understand you literally contradict yourself in the last sentence. You’re sick of one and done and don’t care who leaves or stays? Wouldn’t it make sense that if you’re sick of one and done, you’d be elated to have players stay? Sounds to me like you just want to be miserable and unhappy no matter any outcome.
 
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Old Blue Fart

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STLCats and UKJeff would be in the fetal position if he came back. Or they would be up all night writing more hate mail towards him. One or the other.
I admit I am not an NBA guy; I don't follow them much at all except to scan ESPN headlines to see fit any UK guys are mentioned.
You say a short list but I ask where are these guys and why are we not hearing about them? Not talking about an occasional game like a mushroom in your yard; you know their there but never know when they might pop up.
Archie Goodwin Markus Lee Trey Lyles Kevin Knox. Nick Richards
Willie Stein Brandon Knight Ullis Vanderbilt
James Young Terrance Jones Skal Labeisier Hagans
Harrisons boys Liggins Wenyen Gabriel. Quickley
Dakari Johnson Markus Teague Hami Diallo EJ

I know you will tell me this guy or that guy is playing for some NBA team, but why do we not hear their names anymore?
I get that every now and then one of these guys has a good night but for the most part, we never see their names unless you go looking for them.
Still think we have way too many "I am good enough for the NBA" but not enough to stay in the NBA.
 

Rafterman

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We have begged for years to have players come back and continue to improve. Why would we not want these guys to come back and build a more experienced roster? I can't understand how people want these guys to leave just so we can do it again next year with more inexperience and unknowns. I would take a 2nd year with all of these guys rather than a reclassification or a prayer on another transfer.
 
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FrankUnderwood

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STLCats and UKJeff would be in the fetal position if he came back. Or they would be up all night writing more hate mail towards him. One or the other.


Grow some thicker skin and stop being a weak beta. These guys don’t need you to defend them from big ole meanies on a message board.

“Hate mail” lol. Grow up.
 
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FrankUnderwood

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We have begged for years to have players come back and continue to improve. Why would we not want these guys to come back and build a more experienced roster? I can't understand how people want these guys to leave just so we can do it again next year with more inexperience and unknowns. I would take a 2nd year with all of these guys rather than a reclassification or a prayer on another transfer.


You honestly shouldn’t take the comments of a few and blanket it towards everyone.

Majority of the fans on here who are sick and tired of Cals system and model want players to return and play for 2-4 years.

Hopefully with no film crews but still.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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It’s funny that the same people who want Cal to keep players are the first to say “please leave BJ”. Show me a college player (walk on or scholarship) that doesn’t improve from more experience. It rarely happens that a player doesn’t get better with experience and another year of maturity. If we want a championship contender we need guys with the highest potential to come back. Doesn’t matter if you like him or not
You don't show up with a movie crew and have a mindset of coming back. He came in looking to leave.
He would greatly benefit of staying at least 2 years or more. He needs some toughening up and beefing up.
I will say, he played all year and didn't opt out. I credit him for that.
 
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