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[timnsun]

Looking at the west, who does this benefit the most? I don’t see the likes of Iowa, Minnesota, even Wisconsin providing better opportunities than Nebraska. I haven’t looked so I could easily be wrong, but I just don’t see it.

And that gives us a chance moving forward.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Looking at the west, who does this benefit the most? I don’t see the likes of Iowa, Minnesota, even Wisconsin providing better opportunities than Nebraska. I haven’t looked so I could easily be wrong, but I just don’t see it.

And that gives us a chance moving forward.

I haven’t seen numbers at Iowa but there is finally a collective that’s supposed to be announced soon. I do think there is still something to be said for developing guys into NFL players. You can still sell the NFL over $100k by jumping ship and going to another program.

87% of Iowa starters have been drafted or signed a FA deal in the NFL over the past 20 years. I’d imagine the numbers are the same at Wisconsin. I think you can sell that along with 40% of kids that have gone to the transfer portal since 2018 went on scholarship at their next school. That’s staggering to me.

 

[LonghornInOmaha]

Why do team scholarship limits even matter when you can legally pay walk ons thru big NIL deals? Players don't need scholarships any more if they get those rich deals.

We'll see how many 4 and 5 star high school kids decide to walk on at Alabama and Georgia next fall.

 

[RedCap_rivals330392]

We'll see how many 4 and 5 star high school kids decide to walk on at Alabama and Georgia next fall.

The question for those schools is whether they even need to recruit any big name walk ons given that their roster already is so deeply talented.

 

[mt_slothmore]

All this NIL $$$...SMH...I wouldn've been happy with $2 a week back in my day so I could snag 20 George's Tacos on a Sunday after boozing

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

Say I was a highly rated kid out of high school, but things aren't working out in college for this reason or that reason and I'm going to quit.

You better believe I'm going to the portal for a payday first...then quitting.

 

[NebChicago]

I haven’t seen numbers at Iowa but there is finally a collective that’s supposed to be announced soon. I do think there is still something to be said for developing guys into NFL players. You can still sell the NFL over $100k by jumping ship and going to another program.

87% of Iowa starters have been drafted or signed a FA deal in the NFL over the past 20 years. I’d imagine the numbers are the same at Wisconsin. I think you can sell that along with 40% of kids that have gone to the transfer portal since 2018 went on scholarship at their next school. That’s staggering to me.

87% of our recruits have moved back to Florida

 

[HominidHusker]

His teammate edge rusher Lloyd Summerall also is in the portal. He was a 4* out of high school who visited Nebraska in 2018.

Looks like he’s produced very little in 3 years at Florida but did play in all games last year.

 

[Harry Caray]

Say I was a highly rated kid out of high school, but things aren't working out in college for this reason or that reason and I'm going to quit.

You better believe I'm going to the portal for a payday first...then quitting.

I imagine these NIL contracts will stipulate that they can't just quit before the season. I'm sure anyone giving out serious NIL money has a team of lawyers writing up the legal documents. They're not just handing out bags of cash under the table anymore.

 

[jehresm]

Get cracking, Mickey.....

 

[MOhusker12]

I think it's going to reduce the number of high school kids taken each year. Programs are going to leave 5-8 spots open every cycle for transfer portal guys.

You are right, I have talked to a lot of college coaches the last two weeks and the portal has changed the game. Less high school kids will get offers because of the fear that they will transfer. Had one coach tell me (Big 12 school) they won't offer guys based only on film. The relationship is now the most important thing to keep guys from going jumping ship at the first sign of adversity.

 

[SOHusker11]

I haven’t seen numbers at Iowa but there is finally a collective that’s supposed to be announced soon. I do think there is still something to be said for developing guys into NFL players. You can still sell the NFL over $100k by jumping ship and going to another program.

87% of Iowa starters have been drafted or signed a FA deal in the NFL over the past 20 years. I’d imagine the numbers are the same at Wisconsin. I think you can sell that along with 40% of kids that have gone to the transfer portal since 2018 went on scholarship at their next school. That’s staggering to me.

 

[Boiler_B]

The interesting thing is whether huge NIL deals make available scholarship slots even relevant any more. What's to prevent a star player from coming in as a walk-on and being paid the big bucks through a huge NIL contract to get around scholarship limits?

Redcap, love where your head is at on this, I brought up the same thing months ago and was basically told I was an idiot..lol But may come off better coming from you.

I am in agreement with you here, but have a few concerns:

The big time transfer guys are usually only a 1 or 2 year transfer guys...and how many of them will there be? Maybe we get 2-4 of them..so that only frees up 2-4 schollies for 1-2 years more than likely..which hey is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick..which will allow us to grab more portal peeps as well.

Where I see that it could help us the most (But I dont know if the boosters would do it) is I see 17 current NE kids on the 85 limit. The instate kids tuition and stuff is much lower than out of state kids. I would think most all of those kids would agree to do an NIL type of thing to pay for their school, room/board etc. without needing an official scholarship..But the problem with that..is will boosters even WANT to pony up money for NE kids to do this? Remembger, that is still going to be a 4-5 year NIL commitment for these kids which is pricey. Which I think would be a tremendous advantage for us to have now were are talking an extra 20 plus scholarships along with those 2-4 big time NIL dudes who come here for a year or two and dont need the official schollie. That should give us a TON of depth with the added 20 scholarship worthy kids we could possibly get.

Now where I see it being tough is the out of state HS kids that commit to us, cuz the B10 the schollies are guaranteed for 4 years. SO even if the kid cant play for some reason, they can do a medical or something nd still get school paid for...So I dont think we would be able to get many of those HS kids on this "NIL schollie" type of deal cuz they may want that guaranteed scholarship security blaket in case something happens to them...

 

[BigHawk]

Just a thought....what happens when some of these 500k guys don't produce? How far will boosters go to keep throwing money at kids?

 

[NebChicago]

His teammate edge rusher Lloyd Summerall also is in the portal. He was a 4* out of high school who visited Nebraska in 2018.

Looks like he’s produced very little in 3 years at Florida but did play in all games last year.

He’ll fit right in

 

[dinglefritz]

Boosters (business owners) IMO after this initial onslaught of one time transfers are going to take a closer look at the way they're spending money NIL (advertising) dollars. At some point I suspect the IRS is going to look at the money being thrown around because no doubt most if not all are deducting it as either advertising expense or some type of independent contractor labor expense. I don't believe there are that many people who will just hand out a 100K without some benefit to themselves or their business.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Which part? Discuss.

 

[king_kong_]

Which part? Discuss.

you said 87% of iowa's starters went on to receive an NFL paycheck over the last nobody cares how long. that is obviously bullsh*t

I assume you meant DL starters but messed up because you're a stupid person from iowa.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

you said 87% of iowa's starters went on to receive an NFL paycheck over the last nobody cares how long. that is obviously bullsh*t

I assume you meant DL starters but messed up because you're a stupid person from iowa.

I don’t just make stuff up. I’d guess Wisconsin is pretty similar. I think you can still get good recruiting classes without having to throw $500k at every prospect.

 

[king_kong_]

I don’t just make stuff up. I’d guess Wisconsin is pretty similar. I think you can still get good recruiting classes without having to throw $500k at every prospect.

you left out the very important 'senior' caveat in your original post.

it's much different, and very B1G to tout, now that we have the full picture.

did you know Nebraska leads the nation in Academic All-Americans?! I view this 'stat' similarly. you B1G fans can't get enough of the participation trophies.

any chance you know how many of those reached a 2nd contract? LOL. of course not.

 

[TarheelHuskerFan_rivals]

Really

I don’t just make stuff up. I’d guess Wisconsin is pretty similar. I think you can still get good recruiting classes without having to throw $500k at every prospect.

I don’t just make stuff up. I’d guess Wisconsin is pretty similar. I think you can still get good recruiting classes without having to throw $500k at every prospect.

Really makes you wonder why they dont win more with all that NFL talent

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Really



Really makes you wonder why they dont win more with all that NFL talent

Skill players on offense. No RB’s drafted since 2010 and no WR’s drafted since that time period too. But I’m not trying to turn this into an Iowa thread. Simply pointing out that I think there will still be places for schools that develop kids for the NFL.

Of course, it’s not like kids won’t be offered and accept NIL deals at Iowa and Wisconsin. But I don’t know that it’s 100% certain that kids are going to be leaving those schools looking for half million dollar pay days.

 

[king_kong_]

Skill players on offense. No RB’s drafted since 2010 and no WR’s drafted since that time period too. But I’m not trying to turn this into an Iowa thread. Simply pointing out that I think there will still be places for schools that develop kids for the NFL.

Of course, it’s not like kids won’t be offered and accept NIL deals at Iowa and Wisconsin. But I don’t know that it’s 100% certain that kids are going to be leaving those schools looking for half million dollar pay days.

yes, the sad truth is places like iowa will always exist

it's up to the powers that be at NU to ensure we do not ever become lumped in with the likes of you

we have experienced too many highs and lows just to wind up in the forgotten loser middle

 

[dinglefritz]

You are right, I have talked to a lot of college coaches the last two weeks and the portal has changed the game. Less high school kids will get offers because of the fear that they will transfer. Had one coach tell me (Big 12 school) they won't offer guys based only on film. The relationship is now the most important thing to keep guys from going jumping ship at the first sign of adversity.

And ANOTHER GREAT reason to recruit in-state Husker fan kids instead of recruiting kids from a thousand miles away. Yeah, I want us to go after guys from outside the area but damn, it's tough to keep them around it seems.

 

[SOHusker11]

Which part? Discuss.

Why would I discuss anything with a lying Iowa fan?

Go talk about your ****** hawkeys on your own board. No one here cares.

 

[SOHusker11]

I don’t just make stuff up. I’d guess Wisconsin is pretty similar. I think you can still get good recruiting classes without having to throw $500k at every prospect.

You don't just make stuff up? Holy **** I think I just pissed myself.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

You don't just make stuff up? Holy **** I think I just pissed myself.

I know you dislike facts but care to stay on the discussion of the transfer portal? I responded to a poster who thought Nebraska should by pass others in the west. I think there is something to be said for Wisconsin, who develops kids and sends them to the NFL with a base salary expected to be $700k in 2022.

Kids that are going to go to developmental programs aren’t likely to jump ship if they are getting some money and half almost a 9/10 chance of making the NFL. Do you disagree?

 

[Walleye 1]

I know you dislike facts but care to stay on the discussion of the transfer portal? I responded to a poster who thought Nebraska should by pass others in the west. I think there is something to be said for Wisconsin, who develops kids and sends them to the NFL with a base salary expected to be $700k in 2022.

Kids that are going to go to developmental programs aren’t likely to jump ship if they are getting some money and half almost a 9/10 chance of making the NFL. Do you disagree?

Nobody gives a fuq about Iowa or whisky here. Know the crowd or leave. Not that hard

 

[dpnavy]

Yeah that and learning how to not outsmart himself, motivate the team before games and after half, do something about our horrible turnover margin and time of possession, stop treating special teams as an after thought, and replacing players not getting it done.

If he can get the transfers and fix the other stuff, turning the corner should be a piece of cake.

I get you Husker.Wed and paying Frost 4 million to learn that! Thank goodness, AD Tev got hired! RECRUIT, RECRUIT!

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Nobody gives a fuq about Iowa or whisky here. Know the crowd or leave. Not that hard

I literally responded to a poster who brought up the West. He specifically mentioned Iowa and Wisconsin. It’s post #41 in case you missed it.

What do you guys see as Nebraska’s big advantage over other schools in the west?

 

[KingBlackshirt]

I literally responded to a poster who brought up the West. He specifically mentioned Iowa and Wisconsin. It’s post #41 in case you missed it.

What do you guys see as Nebraska’s big advantage over other schools in the west?

Money

 

[timnsun]

I know you dislike facts but care to stay on the discussion of the transfer portal? I responded to a poster who thought Nebraska should by pass others in the west. I think there is something to be said for Wisconsin, who develops kids and sends them to the NFL with a base salary expected to be $700k in 2022.

Kids that are going to go to developmental programs aren’t likely to jump ship if they are getting some money and half almost a 9/10 chance of making the NFL. Do you disagree?

I’m not sure 18 year old kids offered $500k now will pass that up for $700k 3-4 years from now… if I’m good enough for $500k now, I like my chances in 3-4 years to make 700k as well, giving me $500k more than if I went to Iowa or Wisconsin. Every kid who gets paid to play college football believes they’ll go the the league.

Just my thoughts.

Edit: and if I don’t make it to the nfl, I’m so glad I took the money as a freshman.

 

[KMcCant]

I wonder if some of these NIL deals include a clause regarding a % of any NFL signing bonus or future earnings?

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

I’m not sure 18 year old kids offered $500k now will pass that up for $700k 3-4 years from now… if I’m good enough for $500k now, I like my chances in 3-4 years to make 700k as well, giving me $500k more than if I went to Iowa or Wisconsin. Every kid who gets paid to play college football believes they’ll go the the league.

Just my thoughts.

Edit: and if I don’t make it to the nfl, I’m so glad I took the money as a freshman.

I agree with your example. I question whether or not $500k will be the demand or the norm for the types of recruits Iowa/Wisconsin get. I don’t think there will be enough money to have teams even half full of kids making $500k. It’ll be extremely interesting to see what percentage of kids make 6 figures from the start.

Then you run into what happens when $15+ million a year (just a random number) doesn’t result in more than say, 7 wins. Do people think it’ll continue to be worth their investment?

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Money

Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska are extremely similar in value and viewership the last half decade. Last year Nebraska had more viewers than the average of 2015-2019, as they played 6 top 11 viewed programs against Iowa’s 2. Wisconsin still had more viewers than the Huskers.

I point out viewership because a schools value isn’t really supposed to affect NIL but canvases supposedly will.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

FYI SWIowahawks is/has been one of the better hawkeye posters on here and one that actually you can have a decent conversation with

 

[3fingershomer]

FYI SWIowahawks is/has been one of the better hawkeye posters on here and one that actually you can have a decent conversation with

I might be mistaken, but they also may have a connection to Seth Malcom from Treynor.

 

[Headcard]

FYI SWIowahawks is/has been one of the better hawkeye posters on here and one that actually you can have a decent conversation with

False. He has done nothing but talk **** from day one. The next decent conversation will be the first. No different than any of the others.

 

[mikecanale]

Dude has four left to play with the Covid year. Number 18 DT. To compare, Vince Valentine was the #28 DT in his class.

I have a feeling this staff will be quite successful in filling the gaps in the DL for next season. At least two and maybe three portal additions would be my guess.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

False. He has done nothing but talk **** from day one. The next decent conversation will be the first. No different than any of the others.

Well maybe I have the wrong guy