Does Cal eventually deserve a banner in the rafters even if he fails to ever win another title?
Banner for Cal too?
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I mean....probably. We have a 100+ year history and only 8 titles. I’d assume all coaches that raised championship banner would also have their name in the rafters unless they brought shame on the university as well.
if we have a couple more entries then I’d be on board for having a single banner titles Championship Coaches: with each name and year. And then having a solo banner for Rupp or anyone with multiple a plethora of accomplishments like 5+ F4s etc. Under rules like that, a Tubby would get his name included in the championship coached banner but not a solo banner.
if we have a couple more entries then I’d be on board for having a single banner titles Championship Coaches: with each name and year. And then having a solo banner for Rupp or anyone with multiple a plethora of accomplishments like 5+ F4s etc. Under rules like that, a Tubby would get his name included in the championship coached banner but not a solo banner.
So we think everyone else gets up there with one until him? The way you worded that it's as if he has to do more than the others to get the same acknowledgement.
Yup, so does Pitino, and Rupp.
But Tubby doesn't. Honestly kinda ridiculous.
Maybe he should be up there, maybe he shouldn't. I don't think Rick should have his up there in the manner it was put up. Of course Rupp belongs there and I can see the case for Joe B with him being a player-assistant-head coach
Sorry if my wording was confusing. Not saying that he should be left out, just wondering if he has done enough to deserve one down the road if he never wins another title. Tubby doesn't have a banner up there yet either. Cal and Tubby pretty much fall into similar accomplishment levels as of now.
That is not a set criteria or Rick Pitino's name wouldn't be hanging there.
Both Cal and Tubby should be up there. In what kind of world is Rick Pitino in our rafters but Tubby and Cal aren't?
The banner is what the coach did AT UK. Neither Cal or Tubby have matched what Pitino did. if you disagree, explain.
Tubby and CAL both need and deserve a banner. Ridiculous while Tubby is still Coaching not to have him at RUPP and honor him with a Ceremony and Banner.
Yes he will, Tubby needs one as well. For his legacy as the first African American coach of UK basketball and his achievements on the court. Cal will get one for all the final fours, Runner-up, and title(s). Not to mention he coached like 85% of our pros now maybe even higher.
What?? Cal has done more than Pitino did. Four final fours, Runner-up, Title. That’s better than two finals fours, Runner-up, Title.
Good reply! I guess part of my reasoning is that Pitino had a probation team for 2 years and did one HECK of a job with those teams and then immediately took us to an E8 after probation. 5 out of 6 years, we finished in the E8 or better. Plus, no NIT or missing the tournament due to a horrible season. Cal deserves some negative points for a few of his coaching years.
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LOL Some of you are pretty dense to understand what Pitino did at UK.
Billy Gillispie is running down the hallway, maybe you can catch him at Porcino's.
Tubby is not in the same league as Cal. John has four final fours so far to Tubby's one. Honestly Cal has a better resume than any coach at UK except Rupp.
Tubby....one national title, 1 Final Four, 6 sweet sixteens, 4 Elite Eights, 5 SEC reg season titles, 5 SEC tournament titles, Zero NITs, Zero losing seasons.
Cal....one national title, 4 Final Fours, 8 Sweet sixteens, 7 EEs, 6 SEC reg season titles, 6 SEC tournament titles, One NIT, One losing season.
Stats beg to differ with "Not in same league" assessment. Tubby's resume is closer to Cal's in more areas than many realize.
Bottom line....one title a piece at the end of the day.
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I am a big Cal supporter but even I have wavered a bit more recently. In all honesty, Cal's losing season and an NIT year does have him slipping in the resume department. Hopefully, he can get us back to some E8's and FF's. If so, those 2 highly disappointing seasons won't mean much.
Very true, he wouldn't want the vote to happen anytime soon.
Yes he should have a banner in rafters just like Tubby should
Let Cal win 10 games again in a season and then we can revisit.
Let's get back to winning games again and not being political.
Let's get back to winning games again and not being political.
They should. Tubby would have won with class and integrity there just like he did at UK.
he definitely deserves a spot in the recruiters Hall of Fame if there is one.
A 9-16 record was such a glaring spotlight on his inabilities as a coach.
In a perfect world we could have Coach Calipari do the recruiting and then have almost any division one head coach during the actual games.
it’s just a poor predicament unfortunately.
Yes and the position he now holds at High Point reflects directly on how ambitious he has been since that gifted ‘98 championship. Let’s not play pretend.
That recruiting Hall of Famer is also in the actual Hall of Fame and is responsible for 4 banners (same as Pitino, more than Hall) that are hanging in RUPP Arena. He's handled himself with class, been a great ambassador for the university, and brought the program back to national relevance. If you don’t want to give him a banner that's fine. However, take down those of Hall and Pitino and never hang a banner for a coach again.
Let's not play pretend 98 was all Pitino's doing, either.
For anyone to say Tubby was "gifted" the '98 Championship is beyond ludicrous with how hard it is to win one. Nobody gets gifted anything. The talent level on the '98 team wasn't historically great. A very average team by FF standards especially when you consider all the great teams around the country that not only didn't win it, they didn't even make the FF.
Cal is already the 2nd best coach ever at UK if he doesn't coach another game and the situation he took over at UK and instantly fixed while making UK the hottest name in college basketball was nothing less than miraculous, even in comparison to the great job RP did in rebuilding the program.
Both coaches should be in the rafters and it shouldn't be a hard decision to make. I'd like to see Cal put Tubby up there. Bringing Tubby back to a thunderous applause and having his name raised to the rafters would be the right thing to do and also be awesome publicity for the program. Need to make a big show of it because it would be.
Cal is already the 2nd best coach ever at UK if he doesn't coach another game and the situation he took over at UK and instantly fixed while making UK the hottest name in college basketball was nothing less than miraculous, even in comparison to the great job RP did in rebuilding the program.
Both coaches should be in the rafters and it shouldn't be a hard decision to make. I'd like to see Cal put Tubby up there. Bringing Tubby back to a thunderous applause and having his name raised to the rafters would be the right thing to do and also be awesome publicity for the program. Need to make a big show of it because it would be.
No, one season doesn’t decide his legacy. But he does have some wrongs to right. Plenty here aren’t as enamored with everything Cal says or does anymore. He can now prove last year was an outlier. Last year was a major kick to his ability to have everyone defending him.
I do find it humorous that for the past few months the majority of the posters on this board seemed to want to run Cal out of town. I took heat for supporting Cal. Now, all of a sudden, we have a thread calling for a banner for Cal.
Would Tubby have a title if Pitino didnt hand him a loaded team that just came from back to back title games?
I think a coach who wins a title deserves to go up in the rafters, barring some scandal, etc. I also think you shouldn’t go up in the rafters until your coaching career is done.