Are we in?
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I think we absolutely should be in but if we go 0-2 there will be some doubt on selection Sunday. And a lot could happen with the bubble the next 10 days, to say we are a 100% lock already is premature.
It comes down to asking in the 2 straight loss scenario, will the NCAA do something new by allowing a 1 road win team for the first time (1994 was 2 i believe?). It is only 1 factor of many - i think personally it shouldn't be a be all end all and we still "limp in" but agree with many posters here, win one more to avoid "sweating".
Weve got a big ten tournament to win. If Rutgers plays with this defensive energy and Myles, young and Mathis play like tonight, theres no one we cant beat.
If we are going to the tournament we need to run into it. Its road games from here on out. Play like PSU 2nd half from here on out.
If we are going to the tournament we need to run into it. Its road games from here on out. Play like PSU 2nd half from here on out.
Im saying one of the last 9s but I will have full update tomorrow. We are starting to get a reevaluating of conferences like the SEC and Pac 12...they simply are not that good...wins vs lower level of bubble vs these schools are really not that meaningful
Palm will move us to last 4 out, Lunardi has us moving back to bye list, but we should be higher, good lord we just beat #9. 99% of bracketologist will have us in the field. Palm is the holdout
I think this win should be enough, but need to see how everything shakes out. A win at Purdue puts us at possible 8 seed terrirtory
0 more wins = 11 seed
1 more win = 9 seed
2 more wins = 7 seed
Any more wins and you move the seed each time by 1 level.
1 more win = 9 seed
2 more wins = 7 seed
Any more wins and you move the seed each time by 1 level.
I think if RU does not win a game, they play in first 4 as the penalty for no road wins
We're not a lock. Plenty of crazy things have happened in other league tournaments. If we lose at Purdue and in the B10 tourney, it'll be a nerve racking selection day. It's moot though if we win at Purdue.
Palm only starts following after the conference tournaments and Lunardi is contractually obligated by ESPN to spew anti-Rutgers bias until the last possible moment.
I think the "9 line" seems right for us after tonight.
agree
going to compare everything tomorrow. Seriously if it wasnt for the stupid road thing we should be an 8....I mean seriously St Marys is a 8
going to compare everything tomorrow. Seriously if it wasnt for the stupid road thing we should be an 8....I mean seriously St Marys is a 8
Lunardi may dig deeper, getting out of the last 4 in line is huge though, we pushed Indiana into that grouping, I disagree with him, I think Indy and RU are basically the same right now as 9s and 10s.
also Lunardi will push their property....ACC, Big 12, and AAC....Big 10 is often crapped on. Palm likes to build up SEC and Big 12.
Definitely not a lock. We have one road win and a throwaway win. We can project that two losses still get us in right now but after each of these potential losses, perception changes along with our record, and it gets more doubtful. There are always teams that play themselves onto the bubble during their conference tournaments. Let’s win Saturday and prove we can win on the road. We can’t leave it up to the committee’s judgment.
Mikemarc
Now that we've won a game (and didn't lose out, as you feared), where's your head at?
I said the same thing on the Grease Truck Board. Denying us a bid after all we accomplished this year would be criminal. But putting us in the first 4 for our lack of production outside of the RAC is fair if we lose the next two.
great win. I’ve said all along though that we need another AWAY win. I’ve said Purdue is MUCH MUCH more important than Maryland game.
the win last night did give me a ton of confidence that we could win at Purdue. Didn’t think we could a week ago.
I swear the only people in the nation who don’t think we are already a “lock” are on this board or named Jerry Palm loL...
I will not say lock yet. I will say 80% and there is wiggle room for that to move upwards in the next few days before Purdue
We R a lock. Find at difficult to see who behind us is better and can make up so much ground. Guessing NCAA wants Texas for ratings and what not but who else... Purdue making a case I suppose... that's it. Don't see many bid stealers either other than maybe St. Louis which just would only knock an A10 team out.
We R in!
We R in!
Horrible take, as usual. "MUCH MUCH"??
Purdue is absolutely, 100% not more important than dominating a top ten team start to finish, while leading by 20 for significant portions of the game. The perception of Maryland in CBB is very, very good. That was our best win yet, and it came in the 2nd to last game of the season.
we’ve proven to the committee we can dominate top 15 teams from start to finish well before the Maryland game.
we have not proven to the committee we can win an away gene against decent competition. That’s why it’s much more important. We need to prove something to the committee.
You're just wrong. If you've "proven you can dominate top 15 teams" throughout the season, then you've proven you are an NCAA tournament team. Period full stop.
As to the road, you are focusing too much on the record, and not enough on the incredibly close margin of victory. Any committee member who is overly concerned about our road record will look and see that while we have not one, we have outperformed almost every other team by road margin of victory (loss).
Losses
St Bonnie -6
Pitt -9
#16 Michigan St. -12
#3 Illinois -3
#18 Iowa -5
#25 Michigan -6
#9 Maryland -5
#19 OSU -6
#24 Wisc -8
#20 PSU -1
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hopefully we’ll never know whether I was right or wrong because RU wins at Purdue. It’s a prediction. If I’m wrong so be it.
If RU doesn’t, well..sure, hopefully I am wrong!!
hopefully we’ll never know whether I was right or wrong because RU wins at Purdue. It’s a prediction. If I’m wrong so be it.
If RU doesn’t, well..sure, hopefully I am wrong!!
It's the difference between your "expected" winning percentage based on your efficiency metrics vs your opponents and your actual winning percentage.
No way is a B1G team going to be a first 4 play-in team. Going 0-2 would confirm we can't win away form the RAC and drop our scores. RU needs one more win ...or a lot of luck .
Amazing that if a ref called a moving pick on Harrar, or PSU missed the three, or Yeboah hit his last one that night, we are clearly IN and fighting for a 7 seed or higher. But because those things didn't happen, some think we might not deserve a bid. Really?Because of one possession at a top 25 team's house?
I agree with the view that the Purdue game is more important than the Maryland game. If I got to choose which game to win, it would be that. It accomplishes two things:
For one, it eliminates the potential of a two game losing streak prior to Selection Sunday. And winning on the road against a good team.
The Maryland game is/was less important.
Neil
For one, it eliminates the potential of a two game losing streak prior to Selection Sunday. And winning on the road against a good team.
The Maryland game is/was less important.
Neil
its a sorting tool not rigid down the list you are in kind of thing....its as flawed as the rpi was though
FYI you don’t play on the road in the NCAA tournament play at a neutral site.
True. I should have said we can’t prove we can beat decent teams away from the RAC. Which is where Tourny games will be played.