All Democratic Senators except 3 support infanticide

dave

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This seems to be a reoccurring thing with you. You say something ridiculous and then say people are putting words in your mouth. So what happens when you don’t pay your medical bills that rhymes with nothing?

I’ll let you clarify that statement and we can go from there, deal?
According to boomboom financial ruin. In reality not so much if you work with the provider.

It will be easier for you here if you just put words in my mouth so the debate stays in a manageable place your you.
 

CpEER

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Hard to believe a liberal would complain about the astronomical costs of healthcare because your lord and saviour barrack obama saved healthcare via the AFFORDABLE health care bill. I mean if you liked your doctor you got to keep them and as so many of your lib brethern have pointed out your insurance has not gone up at all.

Obamacare was a half step that was hamstrung by Republicans. I think any old libtard would tell you it didn’t go far enough. We will get there though. But in the meantime you get to keep telling that one story about when Obummer told you something that ended up not being factually correct. Because as well know...Republicans are super concerned about their president always telling the truth so help me god.
 

dave

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Some of us are intelligent enough to hold several different thoughts in our head and examine them for consistency and possible hypocrisy and relate them back to many other subjects that may arise during any given discussion.
I understand why you find it beneficial to pivot from a point where you support letting living breathing "day old potatoes "die to a point where you can try to paint anyone who disagrees with you to supporting an imaginary world where kids were held in cages.
 

dave

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Obamacare was a half step that was hamstrung by Republicans. I think any old libtard would tell you it didn’t go far enough. We will get there though. But in the meantime you get to keep telling that one story about when Obummer told you something that ended up not being factually correct. Because as well know...Republicans are super concerned about their president always telling the truth so help me god.
Oh. Republicans blocked it. So obamacare isnt available to anyone who wants it right now? Interesting.
 

CpEER

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According to boomboom financial ruin. In reality not so much if you work with the provider.

It will be easier for you here if you just put words in my mouth so the debate stays in a manageable place your you.

That doesn’t rhyme with nothing though. So what you meant was you would negotiate down your bill to something less than financial ruin because you had the audacity to go out have [insert medical condition/emergency] here.

What happens if everyone does that? Do you think that could maybe drive up health care costs for those that can afford it? Gosh...that sounds like the S word to me. Let’s soften that a bit. We can call you a Bartering Socialist. There. Better?
 
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CpEER

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Oh. Republicans blocked it. So obamacare isnt available to anyone who wants it right now? Interesting.

Hamstrung != block


Try and keep up. They are continuing to do so too. Hope you stick your individual mandate savings into a savings account in case you break your leg.
 

CpEER

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I understand why you find it beneficial to pivot from a point where you support letting living breathing "day old potatoes "die to a point where you can try to paint anyone who disagrees with you to supporting an imaginary world where kids were held in cages.

I don’t think anybody should be forced to keep day old potatoes living because “every life is precious”. I think that’s a personal decision between a family and their dr. Government need not to be involved just as with any medical procedure.

I wish I was just imagining kids being held in cages and being permanently separated from their parents but nope...that’s trunp’s America. Sad.
 

dave

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That doesn’t rhyme with nothing though. So what you meant was you would negotiate down your bill to something less than financial ruin because you had the audacity to go out have [insert medical condition/emergency] here.

What happens if everyone does that? Do you think that could maybe drive up health care costs for those that can afford it? Gosh...that sounds like the S word to me. Let’s soften that a bit. We can calm you a Bartering Socialist. There. Better?
They wont take your house. They wont take your car. Very worst case scenario you file for bankruptcy. That sucks but it isnt financual ruin.

Of course it drives up the costs for those who can afford it.

Who is doing anything about the actual costs of healthcare?
 

dave

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I don’t think anybody should be forced to keep day old potatoes living because “every life is precious”. I think that’s a personal decision between a family and their dr. Government need not to be involved just as with any medical procedure.

I wish I was just imagining kids being held in cages and being permanently separated from their parents but nope...that’s trunp’s America. Sad.
How many days okd can the potato be before someone intercedes for the interests of the baby. So far inside the womb and day old are fair game for a moms choice. When does the baby get a choice?
 

dave

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In Chapter 13, you pay them.
Under Chapter 13, you repay all or part of your debt through a three- to a five-year repayment plan. When you make the personal bankruptcy filing, you will also submit a repayment plan to the court. After submitting the plan, you should begin making payments to the court (who then pays your creditors). This is required even if your plan hasn’t been approved.

They wont take your house ir your car and you end up on a budget.

Not financial ruin.

Chapter 13 applies to people who make above the median income for their state generally.
 
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Under Chapter 13, you repay all or part of your debt through a three- to a five-year repayment plan. When you make the personal bankruptcy filing, you will also submit a repayment plan to the court. After submitting the plan, you should begin making payments to the court (who then pays your creditors). This is required even if your plan hasn’t been approved.

They wont take your house ir your car and you end up on a budget.

Not financial ruin.

Chapter 13 applies to people who make above the median income for their state generally.

Good to see you admit you were wrong...again.
 

Boomboom521

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According to boomboom financial ruin. In reality not so much if you work with the provider.

It will be easier for you here if you just put words in my mouth so the debate stays in a manageable place your you.
Can you negotiate down the cost of your medication? Can you negotiate with your provider about what will and will not be covered?
 

dave

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I’ve negotiated bills after coverage. I don’t know how you could’ve possibly done the other two, but I doubt anyone lies on this db
You can negotiate the cost of medicine by buying in bulk. You can shop pharmacies to get better prices. You can call drug companies and get discount coupons.
 

dave

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As far as negotiating what is covered you have to talk to your insurance company and jump through hoops but they may work with you. I got my insurance company to pay for me to go through test programs to determine better long term care for my condition.
 
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As far as negotiating what is covered you have to talk to your insurance company and jump through hoops but they may work with you. I got my insurance company to pay for me to go through test programs to determine better long term care for my condition.

Just read some damn books.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Under Chapter 13, you repay all or part of your debt through a three- to a five-year repayment plan. When you make the personal bankruptcy filing, you will also submit a repayment plan to the court. After submitting the plan, you should begin making payments to the court (who then pays your creditors). This is required even if your plan hasn’t been approved.

They wont take your house ir your car and you end up on a budget.

Not financial ruin.

Utterly stunning. And this is even with you this being light years better than your statement that NOTHING happens when you don't pay your medical bills.
 

dave

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Utterly stunning. And this is even with you being light years better your statement that NOTHING happens when you don't pay your medical bills.
Dont break your brain trying to come with with adverbs and adjectives. Its not financial ruin. That was the point. Sorry if that upsets you.
 

dave

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lol. Classic playground bully dave switching gears to "insults". Better than standing by those posts. Have a good one dave.
The best part of your responses by far is imaging that fat blowhard Bru breaking his like button on every one of your replies.
 
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The best part of your responses by far is imaging that fat blowhard Bru breaking his like button on every one of your replies.

It really bothers you.

 

boomerwv

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Because there is no nuclear option like that. Take a civics course.

Maybe you should take your own advice. The 60 vote requirement for closure is a senate rule, not a constitutional requirement. The majority could kill it if they wanted to; it's not a procedure that is limited to executive appointments.

So, maybe next time you start talking down to someone you should know what the **** you're talking about. Of course that would probably mean you never spoke again.
 

dave

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Maybe you should take your own advice. The 60 vote requirement for closure is a senate rule, not a constitutional requirement. The majority could kill it if they wanted to; it's not a procedure that is limited to executive appointments.

So, maybe next time you start talking down to someone you should know what the **** you're talking about. Of course that would probably mean you never spoke again.
Its cloture not closure. The next time you try to reply like a smartass little turd at least use the correct word. Moron.
 

dave

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Omg, pointing out a typo after you get schooled. You're a pathetic child
I didnt get schooled. Changing Senate rules is not just something you do for ***** and giggles unless you are Harry Reid. If t and s were next to each other on the keyboard I wouldnt have said anything but when you are going to correct someone with condescension its usually a good idea to check your spelling.
 

boomerwv

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I didnt get schooled. Changing Senate rules is not just something you do for ***** and giggles unless you are Harry Reid. If t and s were next to each other on the keyboard I wouldnt have said anything but when you are going to correct someone with condescension its usually a good idea to check your spelling.

No, you said there wasnt an option to do it, it is. And yeah, it's called a nuclear option for a reason, because you only use it when things are really bad. But if you think infants are being murdered en masse, that seems like the perfect example.

Btw, I generally use my phone to post, which comes equipped with autocorrect. And, no, I'm not going to proof read everything I post. You knew exactly that my post said, I'm not doing this for money or a grade

You want to talk about condescension? Maybe check yourself first.
 

dave

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No, you said there wasnt an option to do it, it is. And yeah, it's called a nuclear option for a reason, because you only use it when things are really bad. But if you think infants are being murdered en masse, that seems like the perfect example.

Btw, I generally use my phone to post, which comes equipped with autocorrect. And, no, I'm not going to proof read everything I post. You knew exactly that my post said, I'm not doing this for money or a grade

You want to talk about condescension? Maybe check yourself first.
Its not an option period.

Republicans all but a small few Rinos voted to protect the innocent. Dems, all but a few voted to take away the rights of the innocent. Life liberty and pursuit of happiness unless mom doesnt want you then tough ****.
 

Boomboom521

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Its not an option period.

Republicans all but a small few Rinos voted to protect the innocent. Dems, all but a few voted to take away the rights of the innocent. Life liberty and pursuit of happiness unless mom doesnt want you then tough ****.
I am always curious how many diehard prolifers married the women the knocked up, and their passion fighting against abortion matches their hatred of their lives and wives?

I admire the desire people have to protect life. But it’s just many of those same crusaders are fine with war, pollution, exploitation of third world nations, allowing death, disease, and famine all over the world. Donate massive amounts of money to overturn Roe, but never donate money to feed starving children.

My spiritual view of the world accepts abortion as a benign act. I can understand the viewpoint that sees it as a horror, but it’s always shrouded in hypocrisy.
 

dave

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I am always curious how many diehard prolifers married the women the knocked up, and their passion fighting against abortion matches their hatred of their lives and wives?

I admire the desire people have to protect life. But it’s just many of those same crusaders are fine with war, pollution, exploitation of third world nations, allowing death, disease, and famine all over the world. Donate massive amounts of money to overturn Roe, but never donate money to feed starving children.

My spiritual view of the world accepts abortion as a benign act. I can understand the viewpoint that sees it as a horror, but it’s always shrouded in hypocrisy.
If we ever go to war with a nation of helpless infants I promise to be against it. The french dont count.