ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE LOSS

bradythegoat2

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I could play better defense than what these guys are putting forth of late... I'm 26 with arthritis in both my knees. It's not K. It's the effort. I think it's pretty evident they don't care about defense. We know K does.

On the other hand maybe you should go tell K to retire, and take over as the interim coach. You seem to know how to fix it.

Sorry everyone, I'm just getting really sick of "fans" on here claiming to have all the answers.

Never said I have the answers. I'm just stating what I'm currently watching with this team. We have the most talented team in the country but not the best. We also have the highest ceiling and are the favorites to win the whole thing if the defense can improve just a bit.
 

sheyduke

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Maybe if we gave more game balls to Carter and Grayson and Vrank they'd feel better and play better, but noooooooo. Everyone wants to give it to Bagley every time just b/c he is the best play in every game. Look at how Luke May plays: Maybe Jordan Tucker would have saved us yesterday, but he never got the chance! Duh!
Well since you put it that way Duke will just ride it’s five NBA draft picks to a first round exit which ain’t completely out the picture seeing as how most teams just have to use the same approach. Shoot well from three, play physical get into the lane or just use pick and roll and you got a fighting chance to beat Duke.
But hey what do I know, I’m not coach K or the team. I didn’t recruit every player to Duke, I didn’t start the season out saying this was a deep team to say we’re not deep or can’t put it together on defense.
 

hallside

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Never said I have the answers. I'm just stating what I'm currently watching with this team. We have the most talented team in the country but not the best. We also have the highest ceiling and are the favorites to win the whole thing if the defense can improve just a bit.

We also have 4 freshmen starting, and a starting 5 that never played as a unit until last semester. The 4 freshmen might be great offensively, but Gary seems like the only guy who took defense seriously in high school. Team chemistry is necessary for consistent team defense, and they are still trying to build that IMHO. The faster the better!
 

RanDEVILman

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To the guys saying K didn't coach in 15. I guess we didn't watch the same season. He specifically adjusted the way he had Okafor guard PnR after the Miami game. I remember they started 'icing' it and allowing Okafor to say back. I seriously doubt the guys just decided to do all that on their own.
Also, how can we question this team's offensive identity. It's the best in the country. Maybe they could run more PnR or any other set, offense, concept, but the offense wouldn't be ranked any higher. Duval can't shoot threes, what do you think teams would do to him on PnR they aren't doing right now?
 

bradythegoat2

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To the guys saying K didn't coach in 15. I guess we didn't watch the same season. He specifically adjusted the way he had Okafor guard PnR after the Miami game. I remember they started 'icing' it and allowing Okafor to say back. I seriously doubt the guys just decided to do all that on their own.
Also, how can we question this team's offensive identity. It's the best in the country. Maybe they could run more PnR or any other set, offense, concept, but the offense wouldn't be ranked any higher. Duval can't shoot threes, what do you think teams would do to him on PnR they aren't doing right now?

Well Okafor was still a sieve defensively on the pick and roll, regardless of this adjustment you speak of. This year, we're having trouble staying in front of our men and the players don't seem to understand the defensive rotations. It's a big issue right now but I don't think it will end up hurting too much.

This team has the highest ceiling of any in the country. With this defense, I see 12-6 in the ACC. Fix it soon and we're looking at 13-5 at worst.
 

tclark6

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Well #1 and #2 goes down! At least Ohio State fans know to act and didn't storm the court like they won a championship!!!
 

bradythegoat2

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I wonder if Mich St has the same pitch forkers we do, calling for Izzo’s resignation. How could they lose to Ohio St? Oh my something must be wrong.

Because OSU shot the lights out, including one guy dropping 28 (20 in the first half) and Mich St shot around 35%. **** happens in conference road games. Their not gonna be calling for Izzo's head since they just didn't bring it this game and their defense was fine - OSU just made shots
 

Dattier

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Because OSU shot the lights out, including one guy dropping 28 (20 in the first half) and Mich St shot around 35%. **** happens in conference road games. Their not gonna be calling for Izzo's head since they just didn't bring it this game and their defense was fine - OSU just made shots
Do MSU fans offer off-season workshops on how to not freak out after losses?
 
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RanDEVILman

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Well Okafor was still a sieve defensively on the pick and roll, regardless of this adjustment you speak of. This year, we're having trouble staying in front of our men and the players don't seem to understand the defensive rotations. It's a big issue right now but I don't think it will end up hurting too much.

This team has the highest ceiling of any in the country. With this defense, I see 12-6 in the ACC. Fix it soon and we're looking at 13-5 at worst.

I agree that Okafor was still rough and this team is struggling with rotations and PNR defense. I just think it's silly to say K isn't making adjustments or that he hasn't in x amount of years. We can disagree with the adjustment, fine. Or you can say the players are executing poorly. But saying that the coaches aren't coaching is out there. They make adjustments every year, then others adjust to them, then it goes again.
 

jojozbludevilz

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Its kinda hard to hear the questions being asked. So you’re not sure what he’s answering. He got a little frustrated at one point because of one reporter and dumb questions. He’s K. He has 5 rings. Until he starts making dumb moves like putting Robinson at Center...I’m cool with what he’s doing. Maybe some of these other armchair coaches would like to go to his office on Monday to give him some advice. 2nd loss and almost then entire board has turned into Guru Gary and thrown in the towel. Either be a damn Duke fan with the good and bad...or close your account and go to RR and THR to join those idiots. @pisgah101 this is not directed at you.


YES!!!