A Word about this Message Board
- Thread starter MattJones
- Start date
This is part of it. Matt says he thinks the criticism is funny but it clearly bothers him or he wouldn't respond. Nobody likes to be criticized or disliked. Think Matt does blow off the goofey ones who are clearly over the top with their dislike but the other general feeling out there that he rubs a lot of people the wrong way does bother him like it would anybody and that's part of why he tunes in and reacts.
But Matt could go a long way in improving that by just not being so know it all in his approach. He is very smart and intuitive and is right in his perception of a lot of things, and not so much on some others, but what a lot of smart people like him fail to realize is people don't always care about how much you know and whether you're right all the time as much as they do how you treat people and how you come off. Modesty goes a long way especially in this state. I think deep down Matt is a good guy and real fan and like he said is more conservative on some things that you think, but just has that "I can't stand when someone seems ignorant or wrong about something and have to correct them now" impulse that gets him in trouble. That's okay when people you are dealing with are truly ignorant and obnoxious about it and need set straight. But not everybody is calling or writing to make a legal point and don't use precise language and aren't even trying to debate all the details of an issue. They are just trying to make a general point or share their thoughts. Most people understand that and take them for what they are, just a well intentioned person trying to chime in as imperfect as they may go about it. Matt has an impulse to want to correct everything anybody says and make sure he's set the ignorant straight and that just gets old.
The irony is you would think Matt would know this too! I think he actually does and just cant help himself and believes he wishes he were a little more patient or understanding of his audience, but its his impulse and something he has to fight. I think he want's to be more liked overall and that will have to be corrected to accomplish that.
Just my two cents worth.
Last edited:
I think you completely misunderstood Matt's intent. He was specifically saying he is NOT apologizing. That he believes his comments to be true and accurate. That is the opposite of one believing they need to apologize.
Now he did provide further clarification that he was not speaking to the board as a collective, but just a select few...and that he does believe they are "old idiots". I guess they know who they are?
I said some on here. I didn't say who and the thread shows it. If you truly read my post I was only referring to his initial generalized insult from his show then his multi paged paragraph trying to justify and minimize what he said. If you support him that's great. The thread start with an extremely arrogant, condescending and self serving "address" by Matt. If you don't see that then that's up to you but many posters did.
Don't the responses in this thread exactly prove Jones' point????
I don't agree at all with how JONES is handling this but you're out of Line. with Jedwar.
that's what I've been doing as well - sometimes longer. After the Wisconsin loss in 2015 I stayed away for two weeks.
You make a good point about those who only come out when things aren't going well.
and there is a question to pose to @MattJonesKSR
When DO you visit this board - is it after losses, recruiting misses, players leaving when they shouldn't? Do you also read when the general atmosphere is very positive? Did you come by after Kentucky beat the holy hell out of Arizona State last fall?
I think timing might be everything on this
The Old Idiots are the only ones offended by any of this. Of which, I'm not a part.
Go back and read the thread. His every post is praising Jones for something. My goodness.
I listen every day, don't always agree with MJ's comments but hey I don't agree with anyone 100% of the time. I wish he would be a little more diplomatic about interrupting people who have genuine comments. I get stopping the ramblers and the blowhards but a few are just being sincere and respectful. I like talking UK bball when there are no games. The forums and KSR are my only two resources.
That and get John Short a translator so we can understand him.
I am the Wendy's Post of the Day.
That and get John Short a translator so we can understand him.
I am the Wendy's Post of the Day.
Thinking the same thing.
I'm mostly upset that Magloire52 didn't answer my question on the political board back in 2003. The internets never forgets!
In all seriousness, I don't listen to Matt's show, just a long time lurker on his site. Big fan for the most part, and agree that most takes on this board are idiotic.
Why do you care if I give him props for doing what he does. Read the other Jones thread and then tell me I praised him in every post. I think it takes guts for anyone to leave a profession to pursue their true dream, not just him.
I'm 55 not sure if I'm old or not been told by others I'm pretty smart but have done my fair share of idiotic things. How ever when you say that most of a group are old idiots then you are swinging a broad paint brush that may hit people not in that category and even then it's an insult so getting a negative response is expected. Blindly defending someone because you like them regardless of what they say could be considered idiotic. Making such a generalized statement like Matt said is idiotic as well.
Last edited:
Agree KYFOSSIL.
I remember the "Magloire52" days. I was usually on the "Magloire52" side. I did not know at the time that he considered me and old idiot.
We all assume things all the time, but calling hundreds of folks old idiots is quite astounding. If you are going to be on public outlets you MUST engage your damned brain and not insult your market. How stupid from a Sales and Marketing perspective.
Except I didnt say that...I said the folks who constantly criticize me on here non-stop are "old idiots." And I stand by that...those that blast me consistently aren't exactly the ones that I feel need to have their feelings not hurt in response. Since I don't believe you are one of those, I wasn't putting you in the group.
Quite a long set of comments. Appreciate those of you who have said positive things. Had a great crowd today in Bardstown, including a couple of folks who said they post here.
54 years "old". Single dad of a 12 year old, and I work @ 60 hours a week.
Enjoy his website.
Don't listen to his show, but I rarely turn on the radio anyway.
Wouldn't vote for him if he ran for office.
He's a UK fan so he's OK in my book.
kay:
Enjoy his website.
Don't listen to his show, but I rarely turn on the radio anyway.
Wouldn't vote for him if he ran for office.
He's a UK fan so he's OK in my book.
kay:
42 yr old father of 8 here Matt.
I am alcoholic and I like to dabble in powder cocaine, not that hard stuff like crack.
I am criticizing you, because well, as a father of 8, I don't think you relate to my needs. It's hard out there and you're making it seem like all this stuff is just one big game. Son, when you get my age and have as many kids as I have, maybe you'll realize that things just aren't that easy and maybe UK sports won't be my cure to my problems, but just because you run a radio show doesn't mean that you know what's going on. wait till you have kids. maybe you will, maybe you won't. Time will tell, Matt. Just remember that
I am alcoholic and I like to dabble in powder cocaine, not that hard stuff like crack.
I am criticizing you, because well, as a father of 8, I don't think you relate to my needs. It's hard out there and you're making it seem like all this stuff is just one big game. Son, when you get my age and have as many kids as I have, maybe you'll realize that things just aren't that easy and maybe UK sports won't be my cure to my problems, but just because you run a radio show doesn't mean that you know what's going on. wait till you have kids. maybe you will, maybe you won't. Time will tell, Matt. Just remember that
Great post. Not even in reference to Matt Jones but just as a general "how to treat people" post.
How is this thread still going? Day two and people should have moved on by now. Sheesh. Go do something else. Go discuss recruiting. Go do anything.
Trying to generalize this board is a mistake imo. There is a little bit of everything from what I've seen. I'm in my early 30's and consider jones an old, arrogant idiot fwiw.
Passive way of saying "see, my comments didn't impact the following I have from Catsillustrated members".
You're not fooling anyone. You said something stupid, you realized it could impact your ratings. You thought about it, decided to come on here to explain yourself. You're pride wouldn't let you come out and apologize to anyone you might have offended, but your post made you feel like you did. Your ultimate goal was to explain yourself without apologizing and have people like JedWar say, "it's ok buddy". You accomplished that, but many of us see right through it.
I can assure you that this site is where I get all of my information. Your site is terrific, but it doesn't go over our heads that it's entirely out of political agenda when Ms. Tyler Thompson posts the video from Jimmy Kimmel discussing his child's heart problem. It plays right into ObamaCare and the agenda of the left. You don't think people know when someone is passively trying to push their agenda? Or how about when she posted on the morning after the election a video of the national anthem being performed "for anyone who needs cheering up". You think that goes right over our heads?
I used to listen to your show everyday. Loved it. But I don't anymore. And it's not because I think you push a liberal agenda via the show. I actually haven't heard you do it on the radio. It's because Tyler Thompson, and your website does. Being 100% honest. I loved your show. But I won't support it anymore because I don't want to support those opinions. Bruce Springsteen is my all time favorite musician. Haven't bought an album by him in years. Same thing. You might think, "big deal one person doesn't go to the site because they disagree with our views." Well I have news for you, there are a helluva lot of people just like me. It will catch up one day. Good day.
My UK message board fandom began about the same time UK hired BCG. I honestly didn't realize their was so much info/conversation online before then. I stumbled across KSR & CI (then known by CP I believe) quite by accident in looking for info on BCG. It has certainly been a learning experience for me.
I am not "old". Turned 40 this year. Don't do twitter or snap chat tho, so maybe not tech savvy. If I am being 100% completely honest, I used to read KSR everyday when I first started online UK lurking. At that time (2008) I think the site was very well done. Once I really started getting into Cat's Pause, I found myself less and less on KSR. My opinion is that those first few years before the breakout success happened and they didn't take themselves so seriously, the site and posters were very enjoyable.
At some point, at least for me, that appeared to change. I suppose that is what happens to anyone once they find their ultimate level of "success". I don't begrudge Matt that. I have zero against him personally or in any way really. As has been mentioned by a few others, my "listernship" and "viewership" declined based on my perception that he did treat fellow UK fans in a derogatory and condescending way at times. I get it. He has a radio show where he needs to entertain constantly. I couldn't do it. But, I also wouldn't do it if it meant that I had to talk down to people who were being genuine and not asking for it. There are some people who are asking for it and deserve it. Maybe it is hard to distinguish sometimes. JMHO. TIFWIW.
I am not "old". Turned 40 this year. Don't do twitter or snap chat tho, so maybe not tech savvy. If I am being 100% completely honest, I used to read KSR everyday when I first started online UK lurking. At that time (2008) I think the site was very well done. Once I really started getting into Cat's Pause, I found myself less and less on KSR. My opinion is that those first few years before the breakout success happened and they didn't take themselves so seriously, the site and posters were very enjoyable.
At some point, at least for me, that appeared to change. I suppose that is what happens to anyone once they find their ultimate level of "success". I don't begrudge Matt that. I have zero against him personally or in any way really. As has been mentioned by a few others, my "listernship" and "viewership" declined based on my perception that he did treat fellow UK fans in a derogatory and condescending way at times. I get it. He has a radio show where he needs to entertain constantly. I couldn't do it. But, I also wouldn't do it if it meant that I had to talk down to people who were being genuine and not asking for it. There are some people who are asking for it and deserve it. Maybe it is hard to distinguish sometimes. JMHO. TIFWIW.
I say this with respect...if the fact that a person who runs a website (or radio show) has personal political opinions different than yours means you cant support them, then I don't know how you cheer for UK, which has coaches and players whose opinions are of a similar ilk. If you go through life believing that you will only interact with or "support" those with whom you agree you will either (a) wall yourself off to at least half of the country or (b) be naive as to just how many people disagree with you that you don't even know
As for the second point that there are a "helluva lot of people just like you"...that may be correct. But our site traffic has been consistent for the past 5 years and when I don't "stick to sports" our radio ratings actually go up. There is increased political polarization and those who (like you) seem unable to hear any view that isn't there own...but I think a response to that has been the increase of people who like civility and diversity of opinion...and don't take themselves and their opinions so seriously. That latter group is probably the basis for our audiences
As for the second point that there are a "helluva lot of people just like you"...that may be correct. But our site traffic has been consistent for the past 5 years and when I don't "stick to sports" our radio ratings actually go up. There is increased political polarization and those who (like you) seem unable to hear any view that isn't there own...but I think a response to that has been the increase of people who like civility and diversity of opinion...and don't take themselves and their opinions so seriously. That latter group is probably the basis for our audiences
If I want to hear someone's political views I'll actively seek them out. I don't want to hear them when I'm trying to listen to a show that's supposed to be focused on UK athletics. It's obvious you are using your show to set up a future political career. If you want to do that, fine, but you will turn people off eventually.
As for your really bad comparison to cheering for UK athletics... I have no problem that Cal or any other staffer is a democrat. They are entitled to their views. That's what makes America special. However, that doesn't mean I want to hear his input on right to work laws during his weekly radio show. I watch and follow UK to get away from crap like politics.
When you say "that's supposed to be focused on UK Athletics", that is simply false. It is our show...it is supposed to be focused on whatever we want it to be...most of the time it is UK Athletics...but sometimes it is movies, our lives, tv shows, the city, the state and yes, occasionally politics. If that isn't for you, then that is totally fine (although your posts are generally among the 20 or so on here that ALWAYS crush me no matter what...so regardless of the topic, I don't think it would matter what I say). I suspect there are some who agree with you and I have heard from them...BUT I have heard from a WHOLE lot of other folks who disagree.
Here is what diehard fans sometimes don't realize...as many of us as there are...there aren't enough to support the kind of show I want to do. To do what we do, which is beat ALL sports shows, every type of music and every station in the state in the ratings, it CANNOT just be sports. There simply aren't enough diehards to do it. Take this thread...235 posts right now with multiple people (me included) clicking on here multiple times to see the latest. Total number of clicks of the thread? 8,000....or about a quarter of the number of listeners we have listening on any given hour just in the city of Lexington. The reasons our ratings are good is because we get the casual fan who doesn't tune in "just to be focused on UK Athletics." That is by design
I know that decisions causes us to lose some people...I get it. All decisions do. But it causes us, on the whole to get more people than we lose. Most of those people don't post on message boards. I hear over and over that "one of these days this is going to cost you"...I heard that beginning in 2008 and still hear it today. Maybe one day it will cost us...or maybe something else will. Nothing lasts forever. However our formula of not "sticking to sports" is also a big reason we are in a position to be here to begin with
Wow, if you're offended enough by the random political posts on KSR to not visit it anymore despite the fact it is a website devoted to Kentucky basketball then I don't see how you even get on the internet. Yes, there's a random liberal post here and there, but who gives a crap.
This is a big part of what's wrong with our country now. We can't respect the fact that people have a different opinion than we do. We get all offended and quit going here and quit buying that because they don't believe the same way we do. And it's on both sides, conservative and liberal. No wonder this country is more divided than ever.
