2027 Recruiting Thread

LMTLION

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Ignored may not be the right word but failed or underperformed could be the right label. Ever since Parker Washington we have not had a productive WR so that is 3 years. LB has been middling and we saw the collapse with Rojas going down. Not great depth. DTs same story, inability to get a good pass rush or make disruptive plays, average.
The insistence of featuring small highly athletic DTs plagued the defense throughout most of Franklin’s tenure. Mustipher was an exception (never the same again after the injury), but other than him it was mostly smaller athletic DTs. That style worked very well to beat lesser competition, but if stronger conference opponents wanted to run the ball down our throats nearly every down to put us away like Michigan in 2023 or Illinois in 2021, they could do so. We always feared in big games we would start wearing down in the fourth quarter. The twitchy guys are fine if paired with a large DT.
 

Alphalion75

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You don't agree that those who thought Freeman, Cignetti or DeBoer were coming here are "special needs" fans?
I think it's fair since I didn't specify an individual. In fairness (to your criticism) there are 2 or 3 here than qualify. So, I wear the guilt.
What I disagree with is the name calling. We can all have our opinions. Disagreement is no reason to label someone a "moron".
 

Marshall2323

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Does he not get a dozen years to find out?
Franklin won the conference in 3. I don't see HCMC getting more than that in this era of "college football." I'd like someone to wager that if "excellence at the highest level" and the "NC our fans deserve" are not achieved by year 12 that either will be at PSU.
 

bdgan

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Every school has a Addidas or Nike agreement. This does not set PSU above the top 10 spenders. Why would Addidas give PSU a better offer than it would be willing to give OSU or UM? Oregon is flush with NIke bucks.
It comes down to NIL money. PSU is not in the top 10. Perhaps not even 15. This was not the appropriate time to build luxury boxes. Too much on the landscape of college football is unsettled. The donations could have put more talent on the field.
Of course I understand that the every major school has an Addidas or Nike deal but the PSU deal was quite large. That might be because it's one of the newest. It's probably also because PSU has a top 10 fan base which should get them a better deal with outfits like Addidas than most schools.

I agree that I would have liked to see the $700 billion stadium redo scaled back to $500 billion with the other $200 billion going towards players. $200 billion would provide a lot of NIL money for a decade or so. Unfortunately I don't think it works that way. Donors would prefer to sponsor a facility with a long lifespan instead of an unproven player who will be gone in a few years. I also don't think it's legal. The university can only spend $20.5 million directly and I don't know the rules for direct donor payments to athletes. Besides, PSU doesn't have $700 million for stadium renovations. They're borrowing most of the money and expect to make it back over time with higher revenues from tickets, suites, and other events. I think they've "only" received $50-$100 million or so in donations (Misitano Family, Founders, etc) so the rest is being financed.
 

Roar More

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Of course I understand that the every major school has an Addidas or Nike deal but the PSU deal was quite large. That might be because it's one of the newest. It's probably also because PSU has a top 10 fan base which should get them a better deal with outfits like Addidas than most schools.

I agree that I would have liked to see the $700 billion stadium redo scaled back to $500 billion with the other $200 billion going towards players. $200 billion would provide a lot of NIL money for a decade or so. Unfortunately I don't think it works that way. Donors would prefer to sponsor a facility with a long lifespan instead of an unproven player who will be gone in a few years. I also don't think it's legal. The university can only spend $20.5 million directly and I don't know the rules for direct donor payments to athletes. Besides, PSU doesn't have $700 million for stadium renovations. They're borrowing most of the money and expect to make it back over time with higher revenues from tickets, suites, and other events. I think they've "only" received $50-$100 million or so in donations (Misitano Family, Founders, etc) so the rest is being financed.
Good news, my friend. The redo has been scaled back. It is now $700 million. ;)
 

bdgan

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What LB did we get that you are referring to? Bacon?
I think Bacon and Campbell are both a seniors so neither are part of a long term rebuilding plan. It would have been nice to have both players this fall because Rojas is the only other highly rated LB and who knows how he'll be after surgery.

My guess is that coach would have liked both players but he couldn't justify paying Campbell more than Bacon. There has to be some parity or you risk conflict between players.
 

bdgan

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There is a limit on how much those wealthy donors are willing to give. Money going to one purpose isn't going to another.
That's how I've felt from the beginning but the problem isn't that our stadium is too nice. It's that you can only get so much from the donors.