Fan disappointment with a recent 5 star recruit is a valid reason to stop recruiting premium talent. Solid take. Meanwhile, the "cause" of fan boy tears and temper tantrums, is busy carving himself a career in the NFL. BOO FN HOO.
I think we lose at Michigan and could easily lose to USC or at Washington. I predicted 9-3 but possibly 10-2 if Campbell can get the new team organized and avoid injuries. Those are pretty big "IFs" considering the team was 7-6 last year and is virtually starting from scratch with both players and coaches. I don't think my prediction is unreasonable.
Like no other P4 programs have coaching staffs that can "coach up" players. Explain this, what happens when OSU gets high 4 stars and 5 stars and they "coach them up?"
I don't see how the team is "starting from scratch." In addition to key retentions, Campbell brought 24 or 25 hand picked veterans from his ISU squad. They are all familiar with the scheme. I think that core and the schedule are the reason most are optimistic that this team will win 9-11 games barring a catastrophic rash of injuries.
That's not what I said. I said unless we do really well in the portal.
PSU did well in 2024 and preseason projection for 2025 largely on the strength of the 6th ranked recruiting class of 2022.
Why limit it to Eastern Mass? The PIAA and NYSPHSAA are "on fire" with the issue. In Pa. the legislature dumped the issue on the PIAA and in NYS the athletic association is the target of potential law suits from both public schools and "schools without boundries." I served on a recent adhoc committee meeting of the NYSPHSAA. At issue is the fact that in most states (many years ago) parochial and (private) schools were accepted as full members to their respective state athletic associations.
Joebots are people who once sat in a Beaver Stadium with a capacity of about 47,000 and about 4 decades into Joe's tenure saw the same stadium packed with over 100.000 fans. Those who deny that this was directly tied to Joe's accomplishments are in the "special needs" fan catagory.
Typical gibberish from you. You have your redundant points you like to make and you make them whether or not they actually fit with what somebody else has said.
Yeah I need more hot takes from the local experts. “Will Wood is not good” lol
More redundant gibberish. Literally redundant as you already posted a response to this to two posts up from this one.
Don’t jump on me but I kind of wonder about Ohio State. Day has lost games, and he was on the hot seat a few years ago. He lost to a on paper inferior Indiana team. I kind of wonder if Cignetti would do better with Ohio State’s players.
Your points are good and reasonable. I will say though that Michael Robinson was a high 4 star recruit out of Virginia and a highly sought after dual threat QB prospect. He was rated the 5th highest dual threat QB in the country in his recruiting class. Unfortunately, he only got one solid year in the starting role because the team was so bad around him when he arrived to Happy Valley that his athleticism was needed elsewhere in the offense.
You re correct on MRob. I remember being at the Illinois game in 2001 when Zack Mills got injured and wanting Paterno to pull Mike s redshirt and play him because Matt Sennaca was beyond awful. Turns out it was a wise move as Robinson would most likely not have been around for 2005 unless he took a redshirt between 02-04.
We won’t know whether he will be a better game day coach until he actually coaches some games at Penn State. Your opinion is based on how many Iowa State games you watched?
My guess is Grunk wanted the chance to compete for the starting job this year which he sure wasn’t going to get with Campbell bringing in Becht. How much NIL money did Franklin pay Bourque and what percentage of VaTech’s NIL budget does that represent? Funny how many posters were whining about Franklin spending a disproportionate amount of his NIL budget on upperclassmen in 2025. The number of Penn State OL drafted in recent years contradicts your claim about the talent on the Penn State offensive lines.
Just curious since Campbell won zero championships and qualified for the same number of playoff games while coaching a decade in a weaker conference on what do you base your claim that he is likely to be an upgrade as a game day coach? Not trying to be a wise guy; just asking a legitimate question.
I just wish there was better talent on the roster at that time because he would have probably been a dynamic QB for several years. If I remember correctly, rumors were that MRob was leaning towards VT, but Michael Vick sort of persuaded him not to go there, which was self serving for the Vick family as his brother Marcus then committed to VT. VT’s loss was PSU’s gain. While MRob is revered as helping pull PSU out of the dark years and win a B1G title, Marcus was dismissed from the VT team a few years into his career for off the field issues.
And many of us have acknowledged REPEATEDLY that it was time to move on from Franklin while taking a hopeful but wait and see approach to Campbell without crowning him before he has coached a single game at Penn State or thinking that constantly criticizing Franklin months after he left somehow “proves” that Campbell is a better coach who will bring those Big and National Championships Krafty promised because that was what the fans deserved. As for Joe, he should have quit 10 to 15 years sooner (which I told my fellow season ticket holder back then), but he was the worst sacrificial lamb used to cover up the failures of many others that I have seen on my soon to be 74 years of living on this planet.
Precisely. Total amateur hour firing by Kraft. Instead of simply thanking Franklin for his service and saying it was time to go in a different direction, the clown issues a press release saying Franklin was fired for not meeting the Penn State “standard” of winning Big and National Championships (despite the fact that the last National Championship was in 1986 when Joe was coach and the last Big was in 2016 when Franklin was coach). Krafty then further cements his status as a fan boy by holding a press conference the following Monday by saying the fans “deserve” a Natty.
I think it’s in his record of beating top 10 teams, and teams with more talent. I posted those wins in a prior post. It’s not without basis to think those wins over better teams will carry over. Others may disagree, but that doesn’t make the optimist wrong. Just my two cents. I understand the position of those who are skeptical. There’s a basis for that position too.
Well said. I am optimistic, but skeptical at the same time. I agree with others who said they expect to see a more disciplined, prepared, and accountable team and coaching staff. This should help win some of those close games that we have dropped in the past several years. I am skeptical of competing at the highest level in the conference without playmakers at key spots. It may not be as big of an issue this year, as compared to future years, however, as others have said, hopefully, the portal can help them add necessary pieces going forward.
I need a Venn diagram to determine who hates who in this thread.
Agree. There’s basis for optimism and concern. 2026 could be a decent season. 2027 has some question marks that need to be addressed.
I'd hate to know, because I think we have never really seen it. OSU finally did win a national title under Day, it only took having the best talent in college football by a very large margin, and they still lost two games that year.
Is it just me, or is it hard to be labeled a flop unless you were a 5 star.
I hate people who make Venn diagrams
It’s better to have more higher ranked recruits. But there’s an individual aspect to it. If an individual comes in at 95% of potential, but another comes in at 80%, after coaching up, one guy will look about the same and the other will look much better. Again, I’m not saying there aren’t differences between higher and lower ranks, they aren’t always the whole picture. I think Cignetti coached players up. Day, not to the same extent.
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