2027 Recruiting Thread

Bison13

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I actually think they were squarely in the mix for Spell. You don’t visit a place that many times unless you are interested. The coaching change may have changed the course with him, but he certainly gave PSU every opportunity to seal the deal. I’m guessing NIL was a major factor too.
Yes but i think he was the only RB on that list that they actually wanted. Same with Taylor and the WR
 
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psuslu

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This is false. I see no evidence of Franklin bots. I see anti-Franklin bots (who've been around for years) and I see whatever-PSU-has-right-now-bots, but I don't see anyone deifying Franklin. I see burgeoning Campbell-bots, and he hasn't even done anything yet. I see people who ignore reality and facts, and then claim reliance on rankings to justify and promote a recruiting eventuality. Then I see those same people turn around and denounce other rankings, and defer to the coaching staff, when it makes that recruit look better.

"What, am I supposed to go against rankings?!? Pshaw!"
"Well, look at these rankings, which say the opposite of what you claim"
"Obviously, these folks know more than the rankings ... listen to them!"
And then, when "those folks" generally don't support a contention (via offers, or lack thereof), these folks say to ignore even that, and only trust in one particular person.

Can't we just be reasonable?
Of course there are Franklin-bots and I don't think it fair to paint most with a broad brush. Most posters gave Franklin his praise for what he had accomplished at PSU. I think most believe if JF was not so stubborn and "thinking he was always right" we may have played in and maybe even won a championship. I think that is where the vitriol lies for JF. As to recruiting, I said it in an earlier post JF was a good recruiter but not great or elite. I don't trust any ranking service. An ex-mailman heads up Espn rankings and no offense to anyone on this site or others, but what is their background to suggest they can evaluate football talent. I respect the work that Greg, Ryan put into evaluating players more then most but understand that it is only their opinion. I believe offers as the final arbiter most but when coaches show the ability that Campbell has to take players with "so called" lessor talent and make them better I begin to trust that coach's eval abilities. By the way I think JF had that ability with lower rated players as well he just had a hard time translating that to 4/5 stars.
 

LMTLION

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I actually think they were squarely in the mix for Spell. You don’t visit a place that many times unless you are interested. The coaching change may have changed the course with him, but he certainly gave PSU every opportunity to seal the deal. I’m guessing NIL was a major factor too.
We took a big L with a Spell. We gave him market rate as one of the top recruits in the country, Kraft found addt’l NIL money for Spell specifically. And we still lost the bidding as Georgia went ridiculously high to beat us. Day 1 starter in college and projects into NFL 1st round pick. I normally don’t agree with your doom and gloom, but that was an unfortunate loss. We have ac actual market rate offer for Sesay as well. Hopefully that’s enough.
 
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LB99

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We took a big L with a Spell. We gave him market rate as one of the top recruits in the country, Kraft found addt’l NIL money for Spell specifically. And we still lost the bidding as Georgia went ridiculously high to beat us. Day 1 starter in college and projects into NFL 1st round pick. I normally don’t agree with your doom and gloom, but that was an unfortunate loss. We have ac actual market rate offer for Sesay as well. Hopefully that’s enough.
I don’t normally agree with your endless cheerleading, but thanks for the response.
 

LMTLION

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I don’t normally agree with your endless cheerleading, but thanks for the response.
I have not been this optimistic about PSU football since 2017 season, and then the collapse vs OSU happened that year, with the crazy loss to msu to then immediately follow. That bad loss to OSU helped define the rest of Franklin’s tenure, with the ND loss cementing it.
 

LB99

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I have not been this optimistic about PSU football since 2017 season, and then the collapse vs OSU happened that year, with the crazy loss to msu to then immediately follow. That bad loss to OSU helped define the rest of Franklin’s tenure, with the ND loss cementing it.
I want a team that not only competes in this conference, but wins it…routinely. I don’t currently look at the recruiting class and think they will accomplish that. You can’t deny that very few currently committed recruits have offers from OSU, Michigan, ND, Oregon, USC, Bama, etc. They don’t possess those offers, pretty much across the board. That’s disappointing. They also don’t seem to be able to get any of the top recruits from the traditional PSU recruiting foot print of PA, NJ, DE, MD, VA, or D.C. I also don’t understand the sentiment that they are getting kids to play “Iowa style”? Iowa football hasn’t won jack sh^t. Ever. They hang banners for making bowl games, even if they lose. That isn’t the goal here. If you recruit Iowa level players, then you can expect Iowa level results, which is 7-9 wins per year max. You can say our recruits are underestimated all you want, but their offer lists tell another story…or Campbell is a recruiting genius and far better than evaluating talent than any other coach out there. I hope you are right. As I said before, is sure feels like PSU took a big step forward in coaching and a big step backwards in recruiting.
 
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LMTLION

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Here’s an x post with a screenshot of the national recruiting analyst Brian Dohn posting that Wood has been our guy over Bourque.
 
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Patterson825

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Here’s an x post with a screenshot of the national recruiting analyst Brian Dohn posting that Wood has been our guy over Bourque.

Yeah probably after they knew they weren’t going to pay what Bourque wanted to try to save face. We got our TEMU budget QB
 

rigi19041

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I always wondered if Franklin put too much emphasis on "measurables" (ie "length", 40 yard dash times, ect), and not enough on whether a recruit was actually a good football player. Best example, i remember a lineman back in the early franklin years (Sterling Jenkins?) who was a huge, fast 5 star but for some reason was not even all-conference in high school. Never saw the field at Penn State.
Weak point.

When any school recruits 25+ players and has a roster with 125 players there are players at EVERY school that dont see the field.

Ironic that many fans want to get bigger.

How about you name a few smaller, slower lower ranked players we should go after.
 

PSUForever

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Great to have it official with Will Wood. I trust the staff. They prioritized Wood and got their guy. I really like his size at 6'2" 220 AND the fact that he is mobile with a strong arm. This commit should open the door for others to commit. Would love to get Taylor on board.
 

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Why are we fighting with each other? Shouldn’t we be fighting with the a$$ clowns on eleven worriers or the um dickheads?
Several posters in this thread are down on everything, every recruit , or target recruit. They are down on the present coaching
staff and swear the old staff was gettin' er' done. Not worth arguing with .
 

psu0408

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If we only hadn't started the stadium renovation project, had more NIL buy-in sooner, had more alignment, a new offensive coordinator, a new defensive coordinator, a new AD, and paid him more money after the ND loss, James Franklin would have won a national championship at PSU. Did I miss any other excuses?
 
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bdgan

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You don't know how things will play out. You already are assuming we will lose 4 -5 games each of the next two seasons. A lot of unknowns. None of us know Campbell and what he really can do.

As for firing BGJ, needed to happen when it did. Criticize that the search took too long, that is your perogative and complain that we lost some high end recruits that also is your perogative. I think no matter how seamlessly the firing and subsequent search went we were going to lose recruits.

I am very pleased we got Campbell. We did well to get him. Elko, Cignetti, DeBoer were never coming. We are doing pretty well in recruiting eastern guys. We should land Will Wood today who is from Mass. I think the RB we just got is from NJ. It is early days, excited for a new and refreshed day with PSU football.
I never said we would lose 4-5 games each of the next few years. I predicted 9-3 this year because of the Iowa State guys we brought over at QB, TE, WR, LB, etc. I even gave us an outside chance of 10-2. I think the bigger problem will be 2027 & 2028 because most of the Iowa State transfers are one and done. I know things can change fast with the portal but if I had to make a way too early prediction it would be 9-3 this year followed by a couple of 8-4 seasons. Yes, I think it will take a few years to get back to the top 10 unless things come together this year.
 

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Several posters in this thread are down on everything, every recruit , or target recruit. They are down on the present coaching
staff and swear the old staff was gettin' er' done. Not worth arguing with .
Exactly. I’m going to disengage as well because it’s not worth the effort as it is clearly mental health with some of them. We are way ahead of schedule and doing great.
 
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