I agree. He’s already recruiting at Franklin’s level and he doesn’t even know the freaking region yet. I believe at worst case scenario there will be no drop off from the typical 9-4 longterm avg of Franklin with the potential to do better in big games. People don’t understand we are replacing 50 players (plus the graduating players) with the remnants of two different teams and players from outside the program. It is a very tall task and he’s handling it very well thus far.
2027 Recruiting Thread
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Agreed. Weird how Franklin averaging the #15 class was apparently elite recruiting while Campbell getting us into the top 15 his first class, after starting from nothing when he got here, is a failure. James Gang saying James Gang things.
Marshal and Rigi are hoping and praying MC fails.. they hate PSU and love BGJ. They both will disappear when things are going well, with an occasional negative post. But they will be posting full force when the first negative happens.
Also, any rational person knows that it's going to take Campbell at least a few seasons to transform the program the way he wants it, and most likely the 2026 PSU team at best will be a borderline playoff team if almost everything goes right; he wasn't going to come in and attract a 1991 caliber recruiting class overnight. However, I'm very pleased with what he's done so far.
I just want to see a tough team both physically and mentally that plays great fundamental football and is tough to beat, and just hope that some things fall their way. If PSU shows this in 2026, then Campbell's succeeding classes should be even better as well as the portal players because he's going to have a lot to sell, especially with the renovated stadium.
This class, FWIW, is tracking to be lower part of the top 25 (current rankings reflect "volume", with PSU having significantly more of their class already "committed")
CJF's recruiting was the same way - a large portion of it committing early, and was usually and often "top 5", until the rest of the programs started to fill out their classes. Everyone ends up with +/- 25 kids - so what matters is the average per kid. CJF would usually have average quality in the 12-18 range, but top 5 early on before things filled out nationwide. Current class is in 25-30 ish range on average quality (actually, just checked after latest commit, and PSU is 24th in average quality), but top 15 due to more early commits - it will, of course, matriculate down as others fill out their classes (depending on how many of the 10 remaining spots attract "blue chip" recruits).
That all said, high school recruiting is much much less important than it used to be.
The ranking could go up considerably based on a qb recruit; recruting rankings often are determined by the addition of a highly touted qb recruit. Even if the rest of your class is loaded with high quality players, your ranking usually won't be high if you don't recruit an elite qb. Hopefully, PSU is about to get somne good news on that front.
I want both so that some can debate them for the next four years. Maybe one can play against lesser competition and one can play against better competition.
That is my dream as well. I look forward to the future debates.I want both so that some can debate them for the next four years. Maybe one can play against lesser competition and one can play against better competition.
If you’re referring to the bowl game with Missouri/Ohio State game Ohio State had numerous starters due to injury or opt out.
Carson Hansen is actual 6’2” and will likely be half of the starting rb rotation at PSU. Rb is typically a shorter player profile but taller rbs can succeed as well.
This is pretty damning for Franklin and Danny O’Brien. You cannot force a gunslinger pocket passer to become a conservative passer run first QB. Landon Tengwell was correct in that video last year that Drew regressed after that first West Virginia game the rest of his career. They seem to put the handcuffs on him.
If that's all there is and Allar isn't permanently shell-shocked by the experience, then there's hope for him.
Unless PSU signs several high 4 stars and perhaps a 5 star, they will not be in the final top 10. Ratings are skewed by numbers and not quality. Since PSU will likely have one of the largest classes, their rating will be artificially inflated. Recruiting average players (88) isn't going to produce talent to beat (91). It's been the same for years. The "portal era" means nothing if you aren't securing the top talent from there, Bottom line, if you don't have the money to sign the blue chips....where will you get the cash to win the free agent frenzy, which is the portal? I don't know what I'm talking about, but I can decipher numbers. There are about 17 schools that have a higher rating per commit than PSU currently boasts.
My assertion is that if they continue to recruit at the current level.....which is similar to what Franklin achieved, the results will be similar. "Coaching them up" is for cheerleaders, because other schools have coaches too.
I fail to see how it's being butt hurt to insist that game changers are needed at several positions and they are currently not committed. Perhaps that will happen? Getting a commit from QB #7 and 80 nationally will be evidence of a foundation.
Anyone else who has been around for a minute love watching one person who has been nothing but a GD cheerleader the whole time still melting down over CJF being fired and now questioning the new staff who is barely in the door. What a GD hypocrite. Now all of a sudden the rankings are the end all after decades of trust the staff.
He also lost to BYU by more than 2 scores after leading by 14 at half. Wins and losses happen. Aren't you concerned that he brought those last 2 recruiting classes to PSU? If the Big Ten is really more competitive than the Big 12........I'm glad we don't play OSU or Oregon....
You aren't missing a thing. He is recruiting like PSU has recruited the past decade.
I'm good with it. Wins over top teams are exciting. The list of good teams he beat is impressive. I'm good with the players from Iowa State. It was situational, due to the coaching change. He brought two good QBs, two good TEs, two good LBs, two good receivers, a good DB, a good RB, two good WRs, a big DE, and some players that need development. There's talent to work with.
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Do you have a statue picked out?
I am thinking a 50' tall Johny Sakko giant robot with Campbell's face.
I'm not comparing Campebll to Saban, but what was Saban's record at MSU before he went to LSU and became a legend? It seems to me that Saban had a decent but unspectacular tenure at MSU, but then went to LSU and Bama and won, what, seven NCs. What I'm trying to say is that Saban probably always was a really good coach, even at MSU, but then he went to places that had more resources and talent than MSU and became what many refer to as the greatest college football coach in history.
Despite what many of you post, Campbell is going to have many more resources at his disposal t PSU than he did at ISU to become a better coach than he was at ISU, and he did a pretty good job there overall.
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