2027 Recruiting Thread

TheWizardofCamelot

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Momentum building for 3* OT Ryan Robbins from Upper St. Clair in Pittsburgh and 3* DT Aniti Paiva from Utah.

Paiva seems like a Malloe special. Huge kid - 6'3 300lb JR. What Lynn likes in the middle.

Robbins is 6'7 280 himself. Recruiting services seem to have him underrated at this point because he has offers from and visited OSU and Indiana. Ironically, VTech was heavily recruiting him and his mom played basketball there. I watched Robbins play in the basketball WPIAL championships this winter in Pittsburgh and he was a monster, a double double machine. Great athleticism and movement for a kid that big. Size and genetics bode well.
 

LionsAndBears

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Him moving up the commit date good or bad for us?

The timing of this appears to be very favorable for The Good Guys. Gibson visited us a couple of weeks ago and I believe we were his last visit.

I have no inside scoop but in my 26 years of following PSU Recruiting...When a recruit makes a final visit and then sets a date for a commitment, they usually choose the last school they visited. However, he is from SC, so it'll be tough to pry him away from the Palmetto State.
 
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NOYDB

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That ranking is fool’s gold at the moment.
It might be in the end, but it’s not complete at the moment.

I believe most reasonable people will look at this and feel confident that the future is bright. The final ranking will be somewhere in the teens, as it will probably correlate with the NIL funding. It’s hard to be a top 5 recruiting team, when your NIL allotment is not a top 5 fund.

To me, the “real fool’s gold” is the fake excitement of some sorry *** posters on this site. It’s odd that some just point out negative **** or is just a passive/aggressive poster at most opportunities.
 

LB99

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It might be in the end, but it’s not complete at the moment.

I believe most reasonable people will look at this and feel confident that the future is bright. The final ranking will be somewhere in the teens, as it will probably correlate with the NIL funding. It’s hard to be a top 5 recruiting team, when your NIL allotment is not a top 5 fund.

To me, the “real fool’s gold” is the fake excitement of some sorry *** posters on this site. It’s odd that some just point out negative **** or is just a passive/aggressive poster at most opportunities.
As others have pointed out for some time now, it’s big business and nobody is above criticism. Coaches and players are paid a lot now. It’s fair to question things and have open conversation about it. Always drinking the kool aid and never taking any other approach doesn’t help. You may not like it, but everyone has their own opinion and they don’t all have to be the same.
 
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CyphaPSU

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Whatever happens with additional commitments and re-evaluations in the fall, I'll be content if we end up with blue-chip recruits in the double digits.
 
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LB99

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It is directional and demonstrates we are doing well. A number of our 3 stars will be reranked as 4 stars when all is said and done. This is Campbell’s first experience with recruiting the northeast and mid Atlantic with the big boys.
You think the class ends up in the top 6 in December?
 

LMTLION

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It might be in the end, but it’s not complete at the moment.

I believe most reasonable people will look at this and feel confident that the future is bright. The final ranking will be somewhere in the teens, as it will probably correlate with the NIL funding. It’s hard to be a top 5 recruiting team, when your NIL allotment is not a top 5 fund.

To me, the “real fool’s gold” is the fake excitement of some sorry *** posters on this site. It’s odd that some just point out negative **** or is just a passive/aggressive poster at most opportunities.
That is a very solid take. Campbell will have to turn top 15 nil funding into a team that can compete at the top of the sport. That is the challenge. We are just not at the level of an Oregon that can drop $3m on a high school qb (Mencl) and carry that cost for multiple seasons without negatively impacting the roster. Oregon just set the asking price for every 4 star QB in this year‘s class.
 
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LB99

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That is a very solid take. Campbell will have to turn top 15 nil funding into a team that can compete at the top of the sport. That is the challenge. We are just not at the level of an Oregon that can drop $3m on a high school qb (Mencl) and carry that cost for multiple seasons without negatively impacting the roster. Oregon just set the asking price for every 4 star QB in this year‘s class.
That’s fair, but this has been consistent since NIL started. PSU has been behind teams from OSU and Oregon in NIL from day one, yet PSU was still able to land some highly ranked blue chip recruits. Some didn’t have any problem blaming the coach for the losses, despite the big NIL discrepancy in the past.
 
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LB99

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In total points, yes. In ranking per player, no. We just picked up a recruit today, Ryan Robbins. A three star that OSU and Indiana were both recruiting heavily. He’s another one that will be four stars by the end of the cycle.
Perhaps you are right, but he is the 20th ranked overall recruit in PA and there are a handful of higher ranked OL prospects within PA that are going elsewhere. In total points, PSU may rank that high if they take an unusually large class, but as you said, per recruit rankings, I would be shocked if PSU is in the top six in December. It still feels like they are looking for diamonds in the rough. I don’t think that is a sustainable approach to success to compete for a B1G title and make a consistent playoff push. As I said, I will gladly eat crown on that. I hope this staff has a gift of identifying unnoticed top talent that many other top staffs seem to be missing.
 

LMTLION

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That’s fair, but this has been consistent since NIL started. PSU has been behind teams from OSU and Oregon in NIL from day one, yet PSU was still able to land some highly ranked blue chip recruits. Some didn’t have any problem blaming the coach for the losses, despite the big NIL discrepancy in the past.
Oregon has Phil Knight. OSU has better general fan and donor support of NIL. Indiana has Mark Cuban now. A number of schools in Texas and Oklahoma have big time oil money donors. We have decent NIL support, but we do not have a billionaire whale currently contributing to the football program. We do have Adidas money coming online over the summer, some of it that can be used on NIL.
 
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LMTLION

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Perhaps you are right, but he is the 20th ranked overall recruit in PA and there are a handful of higher ranked OL prospects within PA that are going elsewhere. In total points, PSU may rank that high if they take an unusually large class, but as you said, per recruit rankings, I would be shocked if PSU is in the top six in December.
We are taking an unusually large class - 30-35 after the very limited 2026 class, and again will have to hit the portal pretty hard in January. If you recall some of Franklin’s people remaining in the program after his termination told the commits in the 2026 class their deals are no longer good. We all want instant recruiting results with Campbell, but that’s just not going to happen with the financial realities and the fact he is just starting to build his relationships on the East Coast now. I think Campbell will do very well, but I’m under no illusion that it will happen immediately. I recall a month or two ago even Kiffin at LSU was trying to tell that fan base to give him some time to build a foundation.
 
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LB99

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We are taking an unusually large class - 30-35 after the very limited 2026 class, and again will have to hit the portal pretty hard in January. If you recall some of Franklin’s people remaining in the program after his termination told the commits in the 2026 class their deals are no longer good. We all want instant recruiting results with Campbell, but that’s just not going to happen with the financial realities and the fact he is just starting to build his relationships on the East Coast now. I think Campbell will do very well, but I’m under no illusion that it will happen immediately. I recall a month or two ago even Kiffin at LSU was trying to tell that fan base to give him some time to build a foundation.
I get your points and agree with some. However, Franklin is gone and is not involved in the 2027 class. Further, celebrating recruiting wins over Franklin at VT isn’t going to help beat OSU, Michigan, USC, or Oregon.
 

rigi19041

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It might be in the end, but it’s not complete at the moment.

I believe most reasonable people will look at this and feel confident that the future is bright. The final ranking will be somewhere in the teens, as it will probably correlate with the NIL funding. It’s hard to be a top 5 recruiting team, when your NIL allotment is not a top 5 fund.

To me, the “real fool’s gold” is the fake excitement of some sorry *** posters on this site. It’s odd that some just point out negative **** or is just a passive/aggressive poster at most opportunities.
It might be in the end, but it’s not complete at the moment.

I believe most reasonable people will look at this and feel confident that the future is bright. The final ranking will be somewhere in the teens, as it will probably correlate with the NIL funding. It’s hard to be a top 5 recruiting team, when your NIL allotment is not a top 5 fund.

To me, the “real fool’s gold” is the fake excitement of some sorry *** posters on this site. It’s odd that some just point out negative **** or is just a passive/aggressive poster at most opportunities.
Sounds like the same excuse Franklin used to make.

Hoops was last in the B10 in funding. Chambers got screwed. 20 win season and he gets fired.
 

Marshall2323

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That ranking is fool’s gold at the moment.
Exactly. I use 24/7. PSU's average recruit ranking is 88. There are two dozen schools that are getting commits with a higher average rating. PSU currently has 12 commits, which temporarily skews the team rankings ....and if PSU recruits 30 players it will continue to be artificially inflated in comparison to a school that signs 22 or 24. There is to date, no spike in the quality of commits PSU is getting compared to the past.
Insisting that 3 stars will eventually become 4 stars can be applied to every 3 star signed at any random school.
But it is amusing that some are finally acknowledging that PSU is hindered by its paltry (by comparison) NIL budget.
I thought Kraft indicated that there would be an increase in NIL and assistant coaching salary pools?
Ohio State had 4 players drafted in the top 11. "Excellence at the highest level," for PSU might haunt Kraft.
 

Marshall2323

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I get your points and agree with some. However, Franklin is gone and is not involved in the 2027 class. Further, celebrating recruiting wins over Franklin at VT isn’t going to help beat OSU, Michigan, USC, or Oregon.
Actually 24/7 has VT's average recruit ranking slightly higher than PSU. So if we are being honest and fair, they are recruiting essentially the same type of athlete at this juncture.
 

pendal1

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Question:

If we can continue to lament our lack of NIL. o_O and the overall poor quality of our recruits, why can’t we continue to obsess over Franklin? Why only partially drag these discussions down when we can rub each other’s nuts in the dirt, at least virtually?

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Agreed. I blame Pegula for our NIL woes. He's so selfish.
And Franklin can jump in the lake. In a year he'll be extorting VTech for a raise.
 
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psuno1

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Oregon has Phil Knight. OSU has better general fan and donor support of NIL. Indiana has Mark Cuban now. A number of schools in Texas and Oklahoma have big time oil money donors. We have decent NIL support, but we do not have a billionaire whale currently contributing to the football program. We do have Adidas money coming online over the summer, some of it that can be used on NIL.
PSU has Pegula, Hershey's, Sheetz, Wawa etc- Kraft need to get these big fish for NIL and quit crying poor and get these guys on board.
 

LB99

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PSU has Pegula, Hershey's, Sheetz, Wawa etc- Kraft need to get these big fish for NIL and quit crying poor and get these guys on board.
Exactly. Largest Alumni Association in the country. More CEOs than any other school. Distinguished alumni in all walks of life. There’s zero reason to not be competitive in the NIL game. That sounds like a lazy excuse for the athletic department.
 

RyanSnyder

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2027 Boston College commit. Has ties with Savon Huggins. No offer from PSU yet, but a notable visitor from yesterday.

 

RolexKong

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Exactly. Largest Alumni Association in the country. More CEOs than any other school. Distinguished alumni in all walks of life. There’s zero reason to not be competitive in the NIL game. That sounds like a lazy excuse for the athletic department.
And is trying to fund a $700 million stadium renovation. There is only so much money people will give away.

BTW, the CEO measure is crap.
 

BobPSU92

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That one stings…a lot. In state kid who reportedly had interest in PSU for awhile and goes to powerhouse Prep. Very disappointing.

Apparently, he isn’t worried about oregon’s dwindling enrollment. Surprising. I thought that would be a deal breaker.
 
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