Moos is just covering his own ***. In modern college athletics an AD is going to succeed or fail, (and get fired) based on how well the football coach he hired does. And so far Frost hasn’t delivered. So Moos has to deflate expectations.
2 more years ..
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Which sucks for the Moos. he was bought for the sole purpose to hire Frost. The Hoiberg hire should have just been the icing on the cake. Frost needs to start delivering.
Exactly. Moos comes in and gets 3 damn good coaches IMO. Frost, Hoiberg, and Bolt. Fred will get that team going next year and for sure by year 3. Football just takes longer since there are so many more kids to deal with. We were a dumpster when he took over. Just need to see a bowl game this year for sure and then build off of that.
I've lived in Nebraska for 60 years, got a degree from NU and have followed the Huskers since the days of Bob Churchich and Bob Gratopp. As long as they're filling the seats Moos can say whatever he wants. But once you get to be my age the ticking clock gets a little louder. So whatever they can do to speed things up would be appreciated.
If Moos wants to hang around and not retire (I'd be shocked if he doesn't in the next year or 2) I think he'll get away with hiring another coach if he chooses to. Having said that we've got Frost on contract for 7 more years so the only way the AD can get a new football coach is if Frost decides to quit, which knowing how prideful and arrogant he can be I highly doubt he will ever do. My guess is Moos will quietly exit before the football season in 2021.
why does this have to be the case?
Frank Solich was under contract and didn't quit
Bill Callahan was under contract and didn't quit
Bo Pelini was under contract and didn't quit
Mike Riley was under contract and didn't quit
all had significantly higher winning percentages during their NU tenure when compared to 2018-2019
You're kidding, right? Every coach who gets fired has time left on his contract and every coach who leaves for a better job has time left on his contract.
Frost will sink or swim in the next three years. I sincerely hope it's the latter but if it's the former, his contract extension won't save him. That's why I think most coaching contract extensions serve no purpose other than as golden parachutes. You can't tell me recruits or their parents take them seriously anymore.
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It is what it is at this point and right now it’s about taking baby steps. So making a bowl game for the first time in 3 years with the brutal schedule we have, is a indeed a monumental success.
do you think the university will mint 6 win commemorative coins so we can all relive this monumental success for generations to come?
maybe the bookstore will print shirts:
Love this logic.
Lets invert your comments and see what sentence it makes..."We were a dumpster when he took over because football just takes longer since there are so many more kids to deal with"
So Frost gets time because "Football just takes longer since there are so many more kids to deal with"...but the previous guy, who had a better record, is to blame and gets fired after 3 years...
So if it was a dumpster when he took over, is it a full blown dumpster fire now?
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Thats already taken, to fill teams empty trophy cases, please, go back to your team, this is boringdo you think the university will mint 6 win commemorative coins so we can all relive this monumental success for generations to come?
maybe the bookstore will print shirts:
Love this logic, that coach retires within three years, yet getting an ncaa record setting homer national champion coach,one that likely stays til his retirement, we shoulda passed.
You burning these boysdo you think the university will mint 6 win commemorative coins so we can all relive this monumental success for generations to come?
maybe the bookstore will print shirts:
Is reading hard for you? Imagine if someone just said it?
Now, if I'd said national championship coach, the onus changes, but hey, no ones stopping you from assuming things not said not meant, especially such a basic thing.
Or maybe re-read your post, and tell us if you really believe what you typed is discernible English.....
Shouldn't someone win a national championship as a coach before they get labeled a "national championship coach"?
Coming from you, just asking a non insulting husker question, though it is to me,about me, there may be hope for you yet.
I said he was a home bred national champion coach.
I think you're trying too hard to be a word nazi here.
Onus on champion, not coach. Don't they teach you such subtleties where you're from?
I like basketballs chances better than football. Look at the 2016, 2017, and 2018 recruiting classes. Very few hits or even players on roster. Those classes should be our upper classmen and they are a mess
Hence, you're also not a Nebraska fan like you claim, bonehead. Sal is dead, go big red.
I like Fred, I think he will get it done here. People need to give him more than a month to put a team together
So, you're a sunshine pumper that can't answer the question.
As far as your CU reference, I guess you're one of the nut cases that thinks I'm a CU fan. The folks that think I'm a Wisconsin fan, Iowa fan, Minnesota fan, and/or a UCF fan all might disagree with you, though....but don't be too hard on them. You're all the same kind of nut cases.
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"Love this logic, that coach retires within three years, yet getting an ncaa record setting homer national champion coach,one that likely stays til his retirement, we shoulda passed."
This is your post in question. I italicized the phrase we are discussing..
Didn't realize there was a difference between a "national champion coach" and a "national championship coach".
I'd refer to him as a "national champion player", since, you know, that's what he was when he won one.
No word Nazism involved here. Not sure you need to act like an arrogant *** when you're not speaking (metaphorically) very clear. You'll notice that the folks attacking me aren't even disputing my argument. That should be a clue.
Martinez, Honas, Williams, Taylor-Britt, Clark, and tanner? But look at the attrition no wr, no rb, lost a couple safeties. Still not a full class. U can’t argue especially the 2017 class was empty. Coaches are definitely under some pressure to develop underclassmen.
How many starters does the average class produce? 6 seems about right, if not a little high.
I didn’t say anything about ‘16/‘17. Those classes were undoubtedly busts.
So, if you cant figure it out, I suggest you take you poor intentions elsewheres. Troll is troll.
Other than wr, where the staff has addressed wr, the team is accruing depth.
The first class, its normal to have poor hit rates, especially in conditions where coaches have very little time, so the 2018 had starters, but the depth fell apart.
But last years class has been redshirted, and since people seem to not know this, I remind them.
Of the last two classes, I think 52 in total, forty are true frosh or redshirt frosh. Several jucos have also redshirted, and theres been three or four guys playing, Newsome,Wandale and Nelson come to mind, thats it.
So, this perceived unbalanced roster isnt unbalanced, other than at wr, where Chase, JD and McQuitty have either left or arent on campus, and since the numbers were extremely low coming in, its kept our numbers low.
Nothing to panick over, they'll just need to recruit more wrs in 2021 to reach balance.
The first class, its normal to have poor hit rates, especially in conditions where coaches have very little time, so the 2018 had starters, but the depth fell apart.
But last years class has been redshirted, and since people seem to not know this, I remind them.
Of the last two classes, I think 52 in total, forty are true frosh or redshirt frosh. Several jucos have also redshirted, and theres been three or four guys playing, Newsome,Wandale and Nelson come to mind, thats it.
So, this perceived unbalanced roster isnt unbalanced, other than at wr, where Chase, JD and McQuitty have either left or arent on campus, and since the numbers were extremely low coming in, its kept our numbers low.
Nothing to panick over, they'll just need to recruit more wrs in 2021 to reach balance.
Aspirations of playing for nattys is all it is, aspirations. tOSU out recruits us by a large margin and they are who we need to get through once we prove we can win the west. Wisconsin is not going to hand the rest to us. MN, Iowa and Purdue will continue to be formidable. Let's be realistic and have a goal of beating Wisconsin and Iowa first and getting to Indy before having pipe dreams of being in a national title game.
How many of the best coaches in college football needed 4-5 years to turn a program around? Almost all of them turned it around by Year 2-3. Even Bill Snyder got K-State to 7-4 in Year 3. Rhule turned Baylor around in 3 years, Campbell turned ISU around in 2 years, Fleck 3 years at Minnesota. If you don't show significant progress by Year 3, it's probably not going to happen. I can't think of any coaches who started with 3 consecutive losing seasons and still turned the program around later on.