2 more years ..
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I've been saying it, Frost's 5th year will be our year! We could very well go 5 consecutive years without going bowling, which is mindblowing.
No, Moos isn't saying that. Other than nattys, which we weren't in every year, but in the conversation, he's simply thinking Nebraska here.
As to the bb team, we've never had those aspirations, but a certain level of quality that he expects.
Both of which, are better than what weve had, and acceptable for Husker nation.
Now, we can head immediately to the cellar and get caught up in as many spider webs as some want, or take it as more a face value of the kind Moos wants to bring as a proud AD of a storied and proud program.
As to the bb team, we've never had those aspirations, but a certain level of quality that he expects.
Both of which, are better than what weve had, and acceptable for Husker nation.
Now, we can head immediately to the cellar and get caught up in as many spider webs as some want, or take it as more a face value of the kind Moos wants to bring as a proud AD of a storied and proud program.
Can we get a ruling if by 2 years he really means 2 years
don’t want to get caught out again thinking that when Frost said we would compete for the divisional title in year 2 and then watch out in year 3 this is what he actually meant when it now is clear to all that what he really meant was anything but we will compete for the divisional title in year 2 and watch out for year 3
are we talking human years here or will it turn out that Moos was really talking dog years and in reality it will be good decade plus.
don’t want to get caught out again thinking that when Frost said we would compete for the divisional title in year 2 and then watch out in year 3 this is what he actually meant when it now is clear to all that what he really meant was anything but we will compete for the divisional title in year 2 and watch out for year 3
are we talking human years here or will it turn out that Moos was really talking dog years and in reality it will be good decade plus.
With every passing admin and coaching staff I become less invested and more apathetic in the fact we arent a blip on the radar in the college football world. Basketball I can understand him saying Fred needs another year or 2. But football? C'mon man
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So Nebraska BB has never done anything ever - 2 more years needed. Nebraska football had a 3 year terrible stint prior to Frost coming - 4 years needed. Makes perfect sense.
Nebraska has really had it bad since about 2013. Just got worse as it went along. Restoring the roster to a quality roster is a feat.
2 years in basketball is almost an eternity.
Just about every non-succeeding program is going to say they need two years. Sorry, but this is unacceptable.
I’m ok with Moos’ candor. Not sure what else he’s supposed to say. Regardless of what we all think, his job would likely require him to fire Frost if he can’t turn things around in 4 years.
Doesn’t need to win a championship, but if things continued to tank, I’m not sure he’d have much choice left.
We have been and are on the brink of almost irreparable oblivion as far as having much chance to succeed ever if it doesn’t “start to happen soon”.
Between the situation Frost inherited and the continued attrition after he started, he’s really had a tough go of it. But ultimately, it’s his job. And a well paying job at that. Results are expected.
Having said all that, I’ll poor myself another cup of naive kool aid and chug away.
Doesn’t need to win a championship, but if things continued to tank, I’m not sure he’d have much choice left.
We have been and are on the brink of almost irreparable oblivion as far as having much chance to succeed ever if it doesn’t “start to happen soon”.
Between the situation Frost inherited and the continued attrition after he started, he’s really had a tough go of it. But ultimately, it’s his job. And a well paying job at that. Results are expected.
Having said all that, I’ll poor myself another cup of naive kool aid and chug away.
Stop paying attention to it. It’s like the elementary school election for president when a candidate promises Pepsi in all drinking fountains if elected.
If we win 6 this year and 7 next is that ‘turned around’? Would you fire him?
do you think Moos means 2 years for a bowl?
I kinda think it means that in 2 years we will finally have them running a bit scared in Ann Arbor and Columbus
If you think this isn't "sarcasm". I'm not sure you know what that word means.
"You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means" – Inigo Montoya
I must not have dripped the sarcasm enough.
Obviously saying we are 2 years away isn't really hyping anything up. Moos went from "everyone is going to fear us" to "just need a few more years" in no time.
This comment is Moos covering his own ***. He
Let’s start with the offense
show me another team in the nation with (at least) 9 returning starters on offense (which includes a 3 year starter @ QB, the complete starting o-line back, and their starting running back all back and tell me they shouldn’t be better. If depth is an issue on offense your telling me no one since last year has developed enough to contribute. Then that would truly be on coaching.
defense - 6 starters back. Completely new D line but our 2nd string is completely back and we have talented guys like Green, Rodgers, and Robinson who all should be ready to step up. Again, if not, that’s on development and that’s on coaching. LBs should improve with Jucos and the freshman class of last year and this year. If not, coaching. Britt and
Williams maybe two of the best Safety duos in the B1G if not the nation. Dismuke is also back and was a starter last year. And guys like farmer and Gates should make depth a non-issue. Corner is a little concerning but if Bootle slides back in, Newsome & Clark have good upside. There is enough talent @ CB to do well. Felt like I’m alone here but I though Chin really improved last year at the end. I’m not worried about the defense. It will be better
schedule
We will be the favorites in our first 7. All Non-conf games at home. If we go 7-0 & went 1-4 in our last 5, I’d be happy with 8-4 going to a bowl. I honestly think 9-3 is where we should be though. I think 6 or 7 wins would mean we lost to a team or two we should have beaten and that’s not a sign of things going into the right direction
My personal read is Moos is being honest with the basketball program and is being ultra conservative with the football team.
Let’s start with the offense
show me another team in the nation with (at least) 9 returning starters on offense (which includes a 3 year starter @ QB, the complete starting o-line back, and their starting running back all back and tell me they shouldn’t be better. If depth is an issue on offense your telling me no one since last year has developed enough to contribute. Then that would truly be on coaching.
defense - 6 starters back. Completely new D line but our 2nd string is completely back and we have talented guys like Green, Rodgers, and Robinson who all should be ready to step up. Again, if not, that’s on development and that’s on coaching. LBs should improve with Jucos and the freshman class of last year and this year. If not, coaching. Britt and
Williams maybe two of the best Safety duos in the B1G if not the nation. Dismuke is also back and was a starter last year. And guys like farmer and Gates should make depth a non-issue. Corner is a little concerning but if Bootle slides back in, Newsome & Clark have good upside. There is enough talent @ CB to do well. Felt like I’m alone here but I though Chin really improved last year at the end. I’m not worried about the defense. It will be better
schedule
We will be the favorites in our first 7. All Non-conf games at home. If we go 7-0 & went 1-4 in our last 5, I’d be happy with 8-4 going to a bowl. I honestly think 9-3 is where we should be though. I think 6 or 7 wins would mean we lost to a team or two we should have beaten and that’s not a sign of things going into the right direction
All of the last wagon-folk just fell off and the Panini hold outs just fell off Into the abyss.
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Upward trajectory (6/7 W’s)= plenty of turnaround to not fire him.
I was more referring to losing seasons and no upward trajectory.
4 years of losing seasons in a row under Frost (compounded with prior losing seasons) is basically inexcusable no matter who the coach is or what the schedule looks like.
It would be the death of the program... and we’re more or less on life support right now.
Critical times here in husker land.
There’s no reason why it’s not “possible” to meet that goal in 2020.
I agree with a lot of this, but until the team starts proving it, we’ll carry some skepticism.
Overall, I’m optimistic about the current trajectory based on recruiting.
The roster rebuild has been/currently is a monumental task. And we’ve had some tough breaks along the way with guys not panning out.
We stabilize the roster, and we stabilize the program. Then the coaches need to earn their keep with that development piece.
It’s go time.
Yep. I’ll keep supporting but I will believe it when I see it. Saw a lot of coaching ... ummm...game management type of concerns these past couple of years. Cuba Gooding Junior...”Show me the money!!!!”
My thinking is similar to Minnesota this past season... if we can win some early on, build some momentum, start believing in ourselves, we might win a few of those tough ones at the back half of the season. If we do that, I agree we can get to 9 wins... That’s what I would like to see.
Spot on the biggest thing with the players is they need to have early success, eventually the law of average will even out and we’ll start winning those close games
Im sorry I just dont see us beating all 4 of Purdue Illinois SDSU and Cincy. I'd be thrilled if we go 2-2 in that stretch. SDSU took Minnesota to the wire and Fickell is a great coach who has that program humming. Ive been saying 4 to 6 wins next year given our obvious liabilities at head coach and qb. I sure as heck hope we go 9-3 and will gladly eat crow but I just dont see it.
It’ll be a monumental success if Nebraska wins 6 and goes bowling this year.
Between having no WR’s on the roster now (and the two biggest needed players may not even qualify), coupled with a d-line that lost everyone and a stupidly difficult schedule. I’ll take just making a bowl game as a successful season.
Between having no WR’s on the roster now (and the two biggest needed players may not even qualify), coupled with a d-line that lost everyone and a stupidly difficult schedule. I’ll take just making a bowl game as a successful season.
Let’s face it, with the current state of our program, every year’s schedule is stupidly difficult.
Wow. Not even Iowa fans would consider 6 wins a success regardless of circumstances. These views along with the 2 more years talk are another step at setting the bar at Iowa.
First year Moos quote was something like "Jim Harbaugh and Urban Meyer are shaking in their boots or hiding under their desks right now" or something like that. Frost's quote was "you better get us this year cuz we gone be real dangerous in year 2".!
BOTH had me hyped out of my mind talking shidt to everybody for the first time since 2014!! Last year MOST of us the floor was 7 wins up to 10 wins easily! Moos said a successful season would be 6 wins.....we all thought he was crazy. We didn't even reach that bottom.
So I don't blame Moos for what he is saying now, he doesn't wanna run out of there and put his head on that chopping block again...
Agree, people tend to underestimate how important confidence and momentum are in sports. MN was a team last year that I think could have just as easily been a 7 win team. They were able to squeak out some of the close games at the beginning and used that momentum and confidence to go on a roll and have a good year. If Nebraska can get 6 or 7 wins those first 7 games, build some confidence I think we could win 3 of those last 5 and get to 9 or 10 wins this year. Iowa and MN I think both takes steps back this year. They both are very very winnable games, although some seem to treat them as if these are Ohio St level teams. Ohio St is the ONLY team I think we have no chance to beat this year.
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