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weatherbird

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Who exactly will be overtaking Duke if they lose to FSU at home...a Purdue team that just lost to Michigan? A Cincy team that just lost to UCF? A UVA team that has 9 losses already and plays UNC tonight? A ND team that has a NCSOS rank of 191?

Duke has already done enough to guarantee at least a 4 seed even they lose to FSU, @UNC and in the 1st round of the NCAAT.

A slip of the tongue?? Though you could very well be right.
 

Croswell

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Amazing how "Bracketology" can spark so much passionate debate when Lunardi has absolutely no clue who will be seeded where. He's good at getting the teams in the tournament right and nothing else.
 
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There's no way the committee puts Duke in a bracket with us and Kansas. As usual, they will end up with the easiest path to Phoenix. You can take that to the Bank of the Bluegrass.
 
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caneintally

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I'm high on being impartial and fair.

The fact is Duke has more quality wins than U.K. Don't let the homers on Rafters and the biased media cloud your objectivity.
LMAO . It's called eyes . If you have eyes no one would say Duke right now has a better resume then UK and no one does. Hence UK at 9 in the polls and Duke between 14-17. Duke as a 3 seed is laughable unless they win out . They ain't beating UNC at home and beating FSU is questionable. Duke isn't very good . They just aren't . They had an easy stretch and the one tough team they played was missing thier best post player . I would love Duke to be the 4 in our region but its not like we would ever see them as Duke is at best a sweet 16 team as they live and die by 3 pt shots and have no pg and no bench.
 

caneintally

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Amazing how "Bracketology" can spark so much passionate debate when Lunardi has absolutely no clue who will be seeded where. He's good at getting the teams in the tournament right and nothing else.
Actually he is great at who gets in and what seeds they get but he is horrible at placing them . Big difference. It is silly to look at match ups as that is too difficult to predict . Now saying so and so is a so and so seed is reasonable as Joey Brackets has a good track record for that . But as for what region and all that he doesn't.
 

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As long as they beat FSU, Duke should move up to a 3 seed and stay there even if the Devils lose @ UNC as long as they win one game in the ACCT.

Duke's resume is simply too strong to be seeded lower than a 4 even if they lose out the rest of the way.

If Duke does the unexpected and beats FSU and UNC this week, they will actually move up a 2 seed.

Even if they lose to UNC but beat FSU on Tuesday and win the ACCT, they will take Kentucky's 2 seed.

If Duke wins out all the way including the ACCT, they will get the 4th 1 seed in the South region.

I smell a whole lot of homer ********.
 

ukfan041

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As long as they beat FSU, Duke should move up to a 3 seed and stay there even if the Devils lose @ UNC as long as they win one game in the ACCT.

Duke's resume is simply too strong to be seeded lower than a 4 even if they lose out the rest of the way.

If Duke does the unexpected and beats FSU and UNC this week, they will actually move up a 2 seed.

Even if they lose to UNC but beat FSU on Tuesday and win the ACCT, they will take Kentucky's 2 seed.

If Duke wins out all the way including the ACCT, they will get the 4th 1 seed in the South region.
Hahahahaha.....f'n delusional!
 
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BourbonBalz

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Who exactly will be overtaking Duke if they lose to FSU at home...a Purdue team that just lost to Michigan? A Cincy team that just lost to UCF? A UVA team that has 9 losses already and plays UNC tonight? A ND team that has a NCSOS rank of 191?

Duke has already done enough to guarantee at least a 4 seed even they lose to FSU, @UNC and in the 1st round of the NCAAT.

A 9 loss team is NOT going to be a 2 seed. Get in touch with reality.
 
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Yeah I agree......I mean you got Arizona, Oregon, UCLA floating around the 2/3 line. To go West, it would be difficult unless we were like a 4/5 seed.
 

irishcat1965

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As long as they beat FSU, Duke should move up to a 3 seed and stay there even if the Devils lose @ UNC as long as they win one game in the ACCT.

Duke's resume is simply too strong to be seeded lower than a 4 even if they lose out the rest of the way.

If Duke does the unexpected and beats FSU and UNC this week, they will actually move up a 2 seed.

Even if they lose to UNC but beat FSU on Tuesday and win the ACCT, they will take Kentucky's 2 seed.

If Duke wins out all the way including the ACCT, they will get the 4th 1 seed in the South region.
Pure lunacy. Absolute lunacy.
 
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Sparkaces

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Yeah I agree......I mean you got Arizona, Oregon, UCLA floating around the 2/3 line. To go West, it would be difficult unless we were like a 4/5 seed.
Yeah, IF Gonzaga stays a 1 the power 5 team that gets a 4 seed in the West is going to be doing backflips.
 
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As long as they beat FSU, Duke should move up to a 3 seed and stay there even if the Devils lose @ UNC as long as they win one game in the ACCT.

Duke's resume is simply too strong to be seeded lower than a 4 even if they lose out the rest of the way.

If Duke does the unexpected and beats FSU and UNC this week, they will actually move up a 2 seed.

Even if they lose to UNC but beat FSU on Tuesday and win the ACCT, they will take Kentucky's 2 seed.

If Duke wins out all the way including the ACCT, they will get the 4th 1 seed in the South region.
As long as they beat FSU, Duke should move up to a 3 seed and stay there even if the Devils lose @ UNC as long as they win one game in the ACCT.

Duke's resume is simply too strong to be seeded lower than a 4 even if they lose out the rest of the way.

If Duke does the unexpected and beats FSU and UNC this week, they will actually move up a 2 seed.

Even if they lose to UNC but beat FSU on Tuesday and win the ACCT, they will take Kentucky's 2 seed.

If Duke wins out all the way including the ACCT, they will get the 4th 1 seed in the South region.
 

toonces11

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Any intelligent KU fan knows they lucked out in a plethora of games and are more realistically, a 3 or 4 seed. There's no way they are going into this tournament feeling great. I wouldn't be, that's for sure.
Yea---our resume just sucks. We did all that with Lucas as a our only big. If we are a 3 or 4, I hate to see where you seed UK
 

LineSkiCat14

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Yea---our resume just sucks. We did all that with Lucas as a our only big. If we are a 3 or 4, I hate to see where you seed UK

Nope, never said your resume sucks. You're a moron. Literally two sentences for you to understand and you couldn't even do that.
 

LineSkiCat14

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The fact is you were GIVEN a handful of wins and played in a conference that just doesn't care to compete. You should have another 2-3 losses, and because of those losses, be dropped in the seed line. Has nothing to do with Kentucky.. We earned all those wins, we didn't need our guard to walk to the hoop to score a game-winner or have an absurd amount of free-throws to end the game.

But keep believing "This is our year!".. Because it's worked so well in the last few years..
 
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toonces11

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Nope, never said your resume sucks. You're a moron. Literally two sentences for you to understand and you couldn't even do that.
I'm the idiot...... and you're insinuating we didn't earn those wins....but rather lucked out----thus making us not the overall #1, but actually a 3 or 4 seed. You couldn't be a bigger honk if you tried!!
 

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Yea---our resume just sucks. We did all that with Lucas as a our only big. If we are a 3 or 4, I hate to see where you seed UK
Our PG top 10 pick has not been 100% for weeks including against you guys. It's not like we have been at full strength all year either. And your freshman big kid played against Duke so it hasn't been only Lucas ALL year.
 
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I'm the idiot...... and you're insinuating we didn't earn those wins....but rather lucked out----thus making us not the overall #1, but actually a 3 or 4 seed. You couldn't be a bigger honk if you tried!!

I wouldn't say not earned them. KU won those games. And that's way better than losing.

But going forward, scoring margin has shown to matter. The fact they are only outscoring B12 opponents by .07 per trip should be alarming.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Unfortunately, Big12 officiating doesn't travel with you into the tournament, neither does AFH.. and you'll get bounced early by some lesser team while your fanbase says "How did we lose?!"..

Remember this conversation.. I'm giving you the exact reason Kansas underachieves in the tournament more than any other power school.
 

toonces11

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I wouldn't say not earned them. KU won those games. And that's way better than losing.

But going forward, scoring margin has shown to matter. The fact they are only outscoring B12 opponents by .07 per trip should be alarming.
Isnt the big 12 rated the best conference or at least number 2? We have had tough games against tough teams. Why would we be expected to blow teams out. We are 6 deep and lack big men. I'd say we handled our conference season very well.
 

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SIAP but, how does Duke a 4 seed play in North Carolina. Am I missing something here?
 
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Isnt the big 12 rated the best conference or at least number 2? We have had tough games against tough teams. Why would we be expected to blow teams out. We are 6 deep and lack big men. I'd say we handled our conference season very well.

You wouldn't expect them to put up numbers like Gonzaga is putting up in the WCC.

But KU isn't even 1st in their own conference in outscoring opponents. WVU is. And the Big 12 is great in that everyone plays each other twice once at home and one away so it's perfectly balanced.

You are right tho. They handled it well. That's why their resume is getting them a 1 seed in all liklihood. I'm just thinking going forward and chances in the tournament. Play a bunch of close games and eventually a team will knock you off.
 

toonces11

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Our PG top 10 pick has not been 100% for weeks including against you guys. It's not like we have been at full strength all year either. And your freshman big kid played against Duke so it hasn't been only Lucas ALL year.
Its b/c you have one guy that can shoot from the outside, you have 2 guys that play the four that cant guard their own shadow, and bam has little to no back to the basket game----thats why a guy like lucas,who isn't nearly as talented, can hold him to 3 buckets. Every team has injuries. We still beat duke hitting 2 3 point shots----very rare for us to go 2 -17. Duke either got lucky or just guarded the perimeter very well.
 
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toonces11

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You wouldn't expect them to put up numbers like Gonzaga is putting up in the WCC.

But KU isn't even 1st in their own conference in outscoring opponents. WVU is. And the Big 12 is great in that everyone plays each other twice once at home and one away so it's perfectly balanced.
Its tough playing an entire conference season without a back to the basket scorer. Im not sure why you are hung up on scoring margin. We had tough games this year-----seems like we played a lot of competitive games.
 

toonces11

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Unfortunately, Big12 officiating doesn't travel with you into the tournament, neither does AFH.. and you'll get bounced early by some lesser team while your fanbase says "How did we lose?!"..

Remember this conversation.. I'm giving you the exact reason Kansas underachieves in the tournament more than any other power school.
Big 12 officiating? Pretty sure ref crews alternate conferences and games all season------might want to check up on your big 12 officiating theory.
 
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Its tough playing an entire conference season without a back to the basket scorer. Im not sure why you are hung up on scoring margin. We had tough games this year-----seems like we played a lot of competitive games.

Again not debating what KU did, especially with a short bench.

Going forward tho, you still have those same issues. I'm not sure why you'd think that wouldn't be an issue going foward