You could make a case that Duke was better without Giles, Bolden and Tatum.
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You could make a case that Duke was better without Giles, Bolden and Tatum.
For the people not happy with Zona as the 3 would you rather us jump Baylor on the seed list, go South and have UNC as our 1?
Any place we go is gonna be tough
Any place we go is gonna be tough
Duke is not beating UNC at their place. It's Senior night.. UNC is gonna get a good portion of the calls. Allen is hobbled, Does Coach K need another back surgery? .. Not in the cards.
And I wouldn't be so sure about FSU either.
And I wouldn't be so sure about FSU either.
You could make a case that this board is better without KU fans...
As long as those losses aren't bad for the Blue Devils, they aren't really going to hurt them. What matters is getting quality wins and Duke has plenty of opportunities to do so.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/DUKE/UK
UK has 4 top 25 RPI wins while UK has 2 top 25 RPI wins.
Duke has 9 top 50 RPI wins while UK has 6 top 50 RPI wins.
Kentucky has the advantage in SOS over Duke right now (#13 vs #22) but with Duke playing FSU (RPI #12) at home and UNC (RPI #3) on the road this week and U.K. playing Vanderbilt (RPI #48) at home and Texas A&M (RPI #86), Duke will overtake U.K. in the SOS metric as well by week's end.
Don't be fooled by Lunardi, Duke and Butler are in much better shape than the biased media want you to think.
I'm high on being impartial and fair.
The fact is Duke has more quality wins than U.K. Don't let the homers on Rafters and the biased media cloud your objectivity.
At the end of the day losses still hurt. You have 7, probably more to come.
And I love how you think the media is biased against you. No, it's that THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE SEEDED. Just because you're given a #2 seed, doesn't mean those guys got it wrong.. no, instead, they just didn't factor in the usual bracket nonsense the NCAA goes through with Duke.
And I love how you think the media is biased against you. No, it's that THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BE SEEDED. Just because you're given a #2 seed, doesn't mean those guys got it wrong.. no, instead, they just didn't factor in the usual bracket nonsense the NCAA goes through with Duke.
It's not just Lunardi tho
http://bracketmatrix.com/
The consensus sees Duke a 4 seed. Not saying they can't jump to 2 but lets be honest about where everyone is at currently.
Duke has more top 50 wins because they had more opportunities to achieve those top 50 wins. You have to look at the whole picture
A Duke fan talking about the biased media? I'm in the twilight zone.
Biased media. Biased towards who? They have never been, and never will be, biased towards UK. They are though, biased as hell towards Duke every single year.
Duke has been castrated by the media this year for a single tripping incident by Grayson Allen while the KU Jailhawks haven't been criticized at all even though Carlton Bragg pushed a woman down a flight of stairs, LaGerald Vick was accused of domestic battery, Devonte Graham unlawfully drove a friend's car without the proper ID and Josh Jackson vandalized a car on KU campus property.
Why doesn't the media rake KU by the coals for these incidents? Truth is the Duke program is held up to an impossibly high gold standard.
[laughing]
Thank you Duke fan, for giving me some good laughs this Monday morning.
Thank you Duke fan, for giving me some good laughs this Monday morning.
It doesn't matter if Duke had more opportunities to get top 50 wins or not, the committee is given a sheet listing the top 50 wins, SOS and NCSOS for each team and they seed them based on that.
If Duke beats FSU tomorrow night, they will move back up to a 3 seed. If they lose to UNC, then they will stay a 3 seed but if they beat UNC on Senior Night, then the Devils will move up to a 2 seed.
I'm not trying to insert personal feeling in the matter, I'm simply telling you what the committee is going to do.
LOL, if we are afraid of Oakland, why even play in the tournament?
So, you started a thread talking about people being afraid of UL, a top 10 team, but you want to part of mid major Oakland?
Do you actually read what you post before you post it?
Two totally different teams now, KU wins that game easily if it were played today.
Duke just hasn't progressed as much.
Thought we were talking about the tournament and the favorable draw Duke gets every year put in the worst bracket. Not sure why KU is being brought up. If you want to talk about that cesspool of a program, go to their board.
I think everyone can agree that Duke is the darling of the media and NCAA.
Let me put it to you this way, coach K is not done pretending his back hurts.
Something tells me his back is going to "hurt" at least 3 more times this year.
If Baylor and the Cards end up as 3's I will take either of those matchups.
A single tripping incident? Really? Single as in one time? Are you stupid?
While it's true they favor big wins over losses they don't completely ignore losses either.
There's a reason why the consensus thinks they are a 4 right now
What about the bad losses duke has? NC state at home is looking pretty bad.
If Duke losses out they will still prob be a 6. Lose to FSU at home prob move to a 5, lose at Carolina prob no change, lose first round of tourney prob drop to a 6. It could be argued they are a 5 now, then they would be a 7.
I don't think we'll ever find out. Duke isn't beating UNC at home, they will fall to a lower ACC seed and will get bounced in the ACCT, maybe even before the semi's. Even beating FSU will be iffy.
If they happen to win these games, or most.. I'd love to see you show your face when they are still at a 3-4 seed..
If they happen to win these games, or most.. I'd love to see you show your face when they are still at a 3-4 seed..
Duke will be at least a 2 seed if they win out all the way. If you don't think so, then you're not in touch with reality.
If it's ANYONE ELSE, they need other teams to falter for that to happen. Being Duke, if they won out AND won the ACCT.. yeah they could be a #2 seed.. I thought you said they'd be a #1..??
Either way, none of this matters.. Duke lost to Miami and to Cuse, no reason to suggest they win out.
Valpo just lost to Northern Kentucky University... Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Who exactly will be overtaking Duke if they lose to FSU at home...a Purdue team that just lost to Michigan? A Cincy team that just lost to UCF? A UVA team that has 9 losses already and plays UNC tonight? A ND team that has a NCSOS rank of 191?
Duke has already done enough to guarantee at least a 4 seed even they lose to FSU, @UNC and in the 1st round of the NCAAT.
the duke guy writes the truth. if we win the rest of the way, i still predict that we get shafted and get a 4 seed. 2011 all over again.
The one that is not in touch with reality is the one that thinks duke can win out.
We'd have to lose a few more times to terrible teams for it to be 2011 all over again. Our record on the road was terrible that year.
Duke isn't even in the top 10 in RPI, or really any other meaningful, statistical measure, and has a sub 100 loss AT HOME. You're really objective. [eyeroll]