Seventh Woods transferring from UNCheat

UK90

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Hope that doesn't mean they are landing another stud.

The "another stud" already landed. I'm guessin the Cole Anthony commit is the reason for this.

As for Woods, I remember back when he was only like 12 or 13 years old he was one of those kids who was being hyped on youtube as the next great SUPER DUPER STAR of the future. And, of course, he's turned out nowhere near that good.

The internet really does a disservice to those kids.
 
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Likely getting that grad transfer too--Keeling. Add him to Anthony and Harris, along with who else they have, time wouldn't be there.
 

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Woods came in at a bad time at UNC...

Joel Berry and Pinson just ate up all of the playing time his first two years...

Coby White comes in this year and upstages him...

Now another stud has come in..he got lost in the shuffle and maybe a new home will do him good. Like all 5 stars...they're used to playing and being the star. He not only wasn't the star from day 1....he wasn't even getting big minutes and fell off. That probably just killed his confidence.
 
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Reclassifications and grad transfers are going to kill the 4-star recruits at these big schools. Very interested to see what happens over the next few years.

If I'm a guy like Woods, I'm not sure I'd want to go to any of these bluebloods.. You'd have to be very underrated and have no growing pains, or else you're screwed. If I'm the 50th recruit, not sure I'd pick UNC (or Duke, or Kentucky) in our current state of college ball.
 

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Reclassifications and grad transfers are going to kill the 4-star recruits at these big schools. Very interested to see what happens over the next few years.

If I'm a guy like Woods, I'm not sure I'd want to go to any of these bluebloods.. You'd have to be very underrated and have no growing pains, or else you're screwed. If I'm the 50th recruit, not sure I'd pick UNC (or Duke, or Kentucky) in our current state of college ball.

Yep. You see a few guys every now and then that think they were rated incorrectly who are willing to take the chance (Poole, Matthews, etc), but when reality hits and they have to wait in line to play, they head elsewhere.
 

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His mixtape was the only one I’d put up with Wall’s. He also had a very impressive defensive mixtape. He looked to be the next pre-injury Derrick Rose. Seemed to have incredible drive and work ethic, too.
 
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Every team loses transfers every year . What you can't have is 3 guys transfer a year. That actually happens some places. UK losing 1 a year is par for the course and not a big deal in the least. It means you are recruiting well. This doesn't effect UNC much but they are going to be a 5-8 seed regardless .
 
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Yep. You see a few guys every now and then that think they were rated incorrectly who are willing to take the chance (Poole, Matthews, etc), but when reality hits and they have to wait in line to play, they head elsewhere.



And at a school like Kentucky.. Calipari has to show a bit of favoritism to a guy like Hagans, who was supposed to be a 1AD player. Cal's business model (for better or worse) is to get the top recruits and get them to the NBA. He can't afford to not play a guy like Hagans.. so the lesser recruits are stuck.

In terms of the team getting to the Final4, Hagans was not the best answer for us, imo. He probably should have been restricted starting in February, and more minutes should have been given to Baker and IQ, who could shoot (once they got going).

I'm not sure if this was part promise to Hagans, part to get Hagans going/not hurt his confidence, or maybe both... But either way, it tells a 4-star player "I'm never going to see time".

Really can't wait until 1AD is done with.
 
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And at a school like Kentucky.. Calipari has to show a bit of favoritism to a guy like Hagans, who was supposed to be a 1AD player. Cal's business model (for better or worse) is to get the top recruits and get them to the NBA. He can't afford to not play a guy like Hagans.. so the lesser recruits are stuck.

In terms of the team getting to the Final4, Hagans was not the best answer for us, imo. He probably should have been restricted starting in February, and more minutes should have been given to Baker and IQ, who could shoot (once they got going).

I'm not sure if this was part promise to Hagans, part to get Hagans going/not hurt his confidence, or maybe both... But either way, it tells a 4-star player "I'm never going to see time".

Really can't wait until 1AD is done with.
Nick Richards and Daniel Orton say hi. Along with Tyler Herro and SGA
 

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Nick Richards and Daniel Orton say hi. Along with Tyler Herro and SGA

Huh? I need more context. Orton is a weird case, he was never Cal's recruit.

Tyler Herro was a lesser recruit, who balled out. And a lot of fans wanted him to play. Calipari had to play him no matter what, he was at times our best player on the floor.

SGA rose to the top because Green couldn't. SGA was also severely underrated, as was Herro. Recruiting scouts missed on them, severely.
 
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And at a school like Kentucky.. Calipari has to show a bit of favoritism to a guy like Hagans, who was supposed to be a 1AD player. Cal's business model (for better or worse) is to get the top recruits and get them to the NBA. He can't afford to not play a guy like Hagans.. so the lesser recruits are stuck.

In terms of the team getting to the Final4, Hagans was not the best answer for us, imo. He probably should have been restricted starting in February, and more minutes should have been given to Baker and IQ, who could shoot (once they got going).

I'm not sure if this was part promise to Hagans, part to get Hagans going/not hurt his confidence, or maybe both... But either way, it tells a 4-star player "I'm never going to see time".

Really can't wait until 1AD is done with.

See, I've never bought into that. I always looked at it as Cal has to built a title contender from scratch every year. He has to play the guys who have the highest ceiling of getting us there.

Early in the year, Hagans/IQ/Quade were pretty indistinguishable. As Hagans showed himself to be our best shot at a title, Cal rode with him more. A guy like Matthews was clearly not as good as Briscoe in year one, but he didn't seem to accept that and left.

So the lesser recruits do get stuck, but it's because they're not as good and we don't have time to wait on a guy to grow. But it's not about ranking. Quade took a back seat to SGA because SGA was the better player, even if Quade was the 5-star McDonald's All American. Herro played over Quickley this year because he was better.

It tells the 4-star player who isn't very good that he'll likely be recruited over next year too, because Cal has to have the best guy he can get. He can't just let someone average inherit 30 minutes a game because they're a sophomore now. When you look at the guys we've lost, how many were actual losses and how many were guys that weren't as good as their ranking?

Now, none of that means it's how the kids themselves feel. They probably blame it on star rankings and not getting a fair shot and all that, because most people do blame their failures on someone else if they can. But I'm not sure it's true. At least it doesn't look that way to me.
 

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Cal go get this guy I like his game. Ole Roy didn't know what to do with him.
 

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I recall a Mickey Mitchell mixtape that practically had folks orgasming on their screens here.

How's he doing nowadays?


Yep, I remember him and remember wanting him badly. Did he go to Ohio State? Not sure why thats sticking in my head.
 

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See, I've never bought into that. I always looked at it as Cal has to built a title contender from scratch every year. He has to play the guys who have the highest ceiling of getting us there.

Early in the year, Hagans/IQ/Quade were pretty indistinguishable. As Hagans showed himself to be our best shot at a title, Cal rode with him more. A guy like Matthews was clearly not as good as Briscoe in year one, but he didn't seem to accept that and left.

So the lesser recruits do get stuck, but it's because they're not as good and we don't have time to wait on a guy to grow. But it's not about ranking. Quade took a back seat to SGA because SGA was the better player, even if Quade was the 5-star McDonald's All American. Herro played over Quickley this year because he was better.

It tells the 4-star player who isn't very good that he'll likely be recruited over next year too, because Cal has to have the best guy he can get. He can't just let someone average inherit 30 minutes a game because they're a sophomore now. When you look at the guys we've lost, how many were actual losses and how many were guys that weren't as good as their ranking?

Now, none of that means it's how the kids themselves feel. They probably blame it on star rankings and not getting a fair shot and all that, because most people do blame their failures on someone else if they can. But I'm not sure it's true. At least it doesn't look that way to me.

Good post. Obviously recruiting isn't black and white. On one hand you have guys like Herro and SGA.. on the other hand guys like Lee and SKJ. ANd on top of that every player has a different situation around them.

But it still leaves me wondering, why exactly did we not pull Hagan's back? Maybe Cal gambled on him, thinking he had to turn it around.

Cal HAS been burned so manyt imes by guys leaving early (or transferring), that he really can't wait for a 4-star to be starter-worthy. It sucks for a guy like Green, but he can't let top talent go by.

The 1AD system really creates too much roster uncertainty. Players aren't sure if the coach will bypass them.. coaches are afraid they might bolt. It's a Catch-22.
 

UK90

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Yep, I remember him and remember wanting him badly. Did he go to Ohio State? Not sure why thats sticking in my head.

Yeah, Mitchell went to Ohio State for one season, and then transferred to Arizona State. I don't know how he did after that. Probably not so well.

But, boy, our fans sure fell for his mixtape hard.
 
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