Guess K tricked yet another kid into staying

LineSkiCat14

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Tre Jones will be a below average nba point guard...why would he go pro? He would be going late second round at best and probably go straight to d league.

Probably because he should strike while the iron is hot. There is a very real chance that if he stinks it up for a 2nd year, he might go undrafted.

That's why all this is weird, and it's still worth noting that he hasn't fully returned. He teased Duke fans, and I'm inclined to think he DOES come back.. but that's not a forgone conclusion. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't at least try the combine and such.
 
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Agree with some this is good news. Would rather Dook have him than Hampton. Hampton is much better. Dook about has a full roster and it's not that scary.
 

Col. Angus

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They hired agents and actively stated they are not returning via tweets

Hiring an agent doesn’t mean you can’t come back anymore. Saying you’re staying in is different. I didn’t know they said they were for sure staying in.
 
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F Dook. I'm not worried about them anymore. If they couldn't take that team to the FF what would it take 5 baby Jordans? I mean they had Zion, they had 1, 2 and 3 and didn't even make the dam FF. The team that beat them (Should have been 2nd rd UCF) got blasted the very next game. Coach rat is withering away and this year ending as it did after the most overrated team in history should hurt and change them forever.
 

kyjeff1

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You do not know with any certainty what is said and to whom.
Um, I know for a fact that Cal has said many times that he sits down with these kids and tells them where they are at and what he feels they should do. Some kids take to his advice and some don't.

That's what I said, I never said I knew what Cal literally told each kid.
 
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Cardsstink

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F Dook. I'm not worried about them anymore. If they couldn't take that team to the FF what would it take 5 baby Jordans? I mean they had Zion, they had 1, 2 and 3 and didn't even make the dam FF. The team that beat them (Should have been 2nd rd UCF) got blasted the very next game. Coach rat is withering away and this year ending as it did after the most overrated team in history should hurt and change them forever.

Last week’s loss was brutal for their program. Absolutely brutal.
 
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Last week’s loss was brutal for their program. Absolutely brutal.
I think the rat boy will be a shell of himself for the rest of the way. I mean if you couldn't get Zion the 1, 2 and 3 players plus Jones to the FF what would it take? I read something where K was going to change up his recruiting, but you know he isn't. He is stuck in the rinse and repeat until he retires and he isn't as good at it as Cal. You saw how they played without just 1 player in Zion. Can you imagine if we had Zion this year after going 30-7 without him? Rat boy is washed up.:D
 

Cardsstink

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I think the rat boy will be a shell of himself for the rest of the way. I mean if you couldn't get Zion the 1, 2 and 3 players plus Jones to the FF what would it take? I read something where K was going to change up his recruiting, but you know he isn't. He is stuck in the rinse and repeat until he retires and he isn't as good at it as Cal. You saw how they played without just 1 player in Zion. Can you imagine if we had Zion this year after going 30-7 without him? Rat boy is washed up.:D

He doesn’t do much coaching anymore. He’s at the end and thought he could get all the talent and just roll the ball out. Duke missed a chance to add a couple of more titles. He’s tired. They are done.
 

Cardsstink

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He doesn’t do much coaching anymore. He’s at the end and thought he could get all the talent and just roll the ball out. Duke missed a chance to add a couple of more titles. He’s tired. They are done.

Correction: they missed a chance to get to a couple more F4’s. :joy:
 
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bucsrule8872

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Good move for him.

I think they get Hurt as well. Where else can he go to a high profile program and not have to play defense?

Duke next year:

Starters

G Jones
G Moore
F Hurt
F Carey
F Bolden

Bench

G Ellis
G O'Connell
F Baker
F White
F DeLaurier

K will play a 2-3 zone almost exclusively so he can play Hurt at the 3, Carey at the 4, with Bolden at the 5. Lots of length to shoot over in that zone. Jones and Moore will be very active at the top of the zone. Very disruptive and will get some steals in the passing lanes.

If Bolden leaves (transfers/G-League) or gets relegated to the bench, then they go more traditional with Ellis at the 2 and everyone else playing their natural spots.

Another good team. Lots of experience off the bench. Looks more like a typical Duke team with an experienced PG leading the way.

But not even close to as talented as the last two teams.
 
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He has been hypnotizing people since he was a small child.

 
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Cindog28

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The same goof ball fans who whine about Cat players wanting to go to the NBA are the very same morons who constantly rag on Cal saying he is a poor game coach and can't develop players. If Cal doesn't develop players then why should they come back? You can't have it both ways.... either Cal sucks or he prepares kids for the NBA.

God some of yall are too slow to even realize that you contradict yourselves and look silly.Do you even think? And BTW don't you think a year in the G League or whatever its called, where he kid plays and focuses on basketball only and has no time limits on how much practice and individual training might be better for their development that a 30 game college schedule?


Well done,
 
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Good move for him.

I think they get Hurt as well. Where else can he go to a high profile program and not have to play defense?

Duke next year:

Starters

G Jones
G Moore
F Hurt
F Carey
F Bolden

Bench

G Ellis
G O'Connell
F Baker
F White
F DeLaurier

K will play a 2-3 zone almost exclusively so he can play Hurt at the 3, Carey at the 4, with Bolden at the 5. Lots of length to shoot over in that zone. Jones and Moore will be very active at the top of the zone. Very disruptive and will get some steals in the passing lanes.

If Bolden leaves (transfers/G-League) or gets relegated to the bench, then they go more traditional with Ellis at the 2 and everyone else playing their natural spots.

Another good team. Lots of experience off the bench. Looks more like a typical Duke team with an experienced PG leading the way.

But not even close to as talented as the last two teams.
They? That team sucks to me. Good luck.
 

MNantz

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yep except for Carey it will be the typical soft *** Dook team, the Rat Faced Bastard will have Carey flopping in no time and ESPN will start the season with them rated #1
 
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yep except for Carey it will be the typical soft *** Dook team, the Rat Faced Bastard will have Carey flopping in no time and ESPN will start the season with them rated #1
F em! The end is close for the Dookies. How could you be a top talent and see what rat boy dd with all he had and have any confidence in him. ESPN said the might have had the best team ever in college BB and they should have gone out in the 2nd rd. Coach rat is about ready for little rat diapers. Gracie isn't walking through that door. The rat was wrong to chase after Cal because he can't put a young team together like Cal. Imagine if we had only one of their top 3 in Zion. I think we could have gone 40-0. The rat is washed up. I no longer worry about Dook or KU. Hell, I am more worried about the SEC. Even if they get Hurt which they better pray they get another top 20 guy they ain't doing nothing next year. From there I think recruiting will drop off for them and rat boy will retire in the next 2-3 years. Bring in Wojo to finish them off.
 
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Don’t find him to be any better than Hagans, just had more talent around him to mask his obvious offensive deficiencies. Wouldn’t be surprised if this move hurts him.

Get ready for the defensive POY talk when in reality he is getting away with pushing, shoving, hacking, hand checking and holding.
 

Ben101er

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I hope Jones does stay. That may keep Hampton from going there, and he is better than Jones.
 

RoyKent

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Not a huge shock in that he was a late 1st round pick at best. But, I was hoping he didn't want to be the one left out (like Teague/Orton) and would still go.

Probably eliminates them for Hampton unless K can pull nonsense out of his butt again.

Will be interesting if they get Matthew Hurt. The down (relative for Duke) season that many thought may not happen next year.
 

caneintally

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Come on Tyler Herro...come on back as well.

Should impact the RJ Hampton sweepstakes as well.
Not sure why you would mention Herro when it is Hagans that this is similar to . Herro is a top 25 pick. Hagans , like Jones will be hard pressed to be drafted in the top 50. Herro is gone . I mean I guess a pig could fly but it is Hagans we should be worried about . He is the one who would be an idiot to leave.
 

Conn501

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The kid isnt an nba point guard and probably never will be. Hes making the right decision in delaying his overseas career. No problem with this at all. Crazy overrated player.
 
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morgousky

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Tre Jones will be exposed next year. He only looked as good as he did because of the players around him. He’s ok, good defense but actually fouls a lot. Next year he might not get the benefit.

Hampton won’t be at Duke now. He’s a ball in hands guy, no way it happens.

Hampton is a lot better than Jones. Another bullet dodged.
 
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Not sure why you would mention Herro when it is Hagans that this is similar to . Herro is a top 25 pick. Hagans , like Jones will be hard pressed to be drafted in the top 50. Herro is gone . I mean I guess a pig could fly but it is Hagans we should be worried about . He is the one who would be an idiot to leave.

Huh?? Bizarre response.

NBADraft.Net has Jones at #33, Sports Illustrated rated him as the #29 overall prospect, ESPN has him at #26 and the 3rd best PG in the draft.

Source: https://heavy.com/sports/2019/03/tre-jones-nba-draft-projections-mock-drafts/

And as far as value goes to both Duke and Kentucky if they both return next season, they are equal. Seems VERY comparable to me.
 

JordanJ21

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At this stage even with his shooting woes, Jones is a better all around PG than Hagans. Hagans has better upside due to his size and athleticism but Jones is a way better decision maker. I’ll be really interested to see what Hagans does now.
 
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JayCatz44

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Hagans will enter the draft IMO and should. I don't think he'll stay in it though.
 
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If Duke can't win with Barrett, Williamson, Jones and Reddish not to mention All American Bolden I'm not too worried about Jones decision to stay.
 
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