What’s happening at IU with Langford May actually hurt UK. IU is a mess, Langford is not held accountable nor is he overly skilled...and yet he still will be a lottery pick. It reinforces that you don’t need UK, Cal, or accountability to make millions.
Any chance Wiseman flips?
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You know I have wondered if this might be it for huggy he’s sure not having any fun this year
As far as I know, Wiseman hasn't trashed UK
He's a young kid with a decision that is difficult made much harder because of a coach who needs Wiseman to validate the schools decision to hire him.
Sounds too late because of paperwork, but if the kid wanted to come to UK after seeing the landscape, we should listen. That's players first right?
He's a young kid with a decision that is difficult made much harder because of a coach who needs Wiseman to validate the schools decision to hire him.
Sounds too late because of paperwork, but if the kid wanted to come to UK after seeing the landscape, we should listen. That's players first right?
Was seriously thinking almost the exact same scenario as I was reading the comments. Oh yeah, hold him under 10 points!
Horse Hockey
Not sure how many times it takes of being wrong with your takes before you change your method but let's find out...
Must be three...
See I'm OK if a player has a change of heart. I get that they are 18 and don't make the best decisions. Totally understandable, which is why I'd be OK if Wiseman tomorrow said "Man, I made a mistake".
But, not if he waits until Memphis is totally in the can, because to me that says he's just trying to use Kentucky and take advantage.
He'd probably have to return the money if he did. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
I got where you were coming from. I responded in part to stop a few from spouting...(It won't work but I tried...)
There's nothing wrong with Wiseman's decision, it's his choice. But it's the easy way out. It's the familiar route. And it also shows he succumbed to pressure from Penny and family.
Kentucky/Cal don't need that mentality, unfortunately. He needs to get his team from A to Z in 5 months. He can't have players second guessing or not liking to hear the truth or being coached.
Wiseman took the route of least resistance, and I don't think we need that type of player.
247 still shows him as a hard commit with no NLI. I found it odd when I saw it earlier today.
Disagree. The easy choice is staying home, playing in front of your city and for your head coach who is going to let you do whatever you want. Playing for Kentucky was the SMART decision, but by no means the EASY decision.
I guarantee Wiseman thinks Memphis will be better than UK next year. Bamba actually believed he could win a championship at Texas . Stewarr probably thinks Washington will be the best team in the country next year. That’s just the way elite recruits think .
Exactly!!! These dudes don’t care about college glory. The only thing that matters is getting to the NBA.
Apparently you then you need to realize Cal has never achieved without a dominant center. Richards and Monty are not that.
[laughing] (Kind of like Bamba, Stewart, and Wiseman thinking they will dominate other teams like UK.)
I don’t think that hurts UK. Kids that are influenced by what you’re talking about don’t care about winning, or at least they care more about getting their shots. That’s not a mentality I want at UK.
I don’t think he cares one bit about where he plays. He chose the home school.
And yes it can. He can choose the more stressful situation and not care about the program in general.
Perhaps he wants to play in front of as many friends while he can.
Check out UK's one and dones in the NBA. Cuz has or had a custom built basketball court. Designed with UK logo. Just because they stay one year doesn't mean they don't care
I guess Wiseman decided that he wanted to spend another year playing "AAU" ball...
No matter WHO they have on their team, they won't be solid enough to contend on a national level.
They'll make some sportscenter top 10's, but I doubt they'll even win their ****** conference.
No matter WHO they have on their team, they won't be solid enough to contend on a national level.
They'll make some sportscenter top 10's, but I doubt they'll even win their ****** conference.
That is just dumb. The players are not surrounded by AA at every position.
Put them in a similar situation and they would.
Point being if he doesn't care then it can't be stressful. Playing in front of friends.. Cant knock that.. But it's not the "difficult" route then.
Personally, I don't think Memphis will care what he does.. This rides on Penny, not a 1AD player. He'll get all the touches he wants and free reign. Now, he can make that as stressful as he wants.. But don't think he will.
Kentucky wasn't going to be as familiar and it wasn't going to be as easy.
That's besides the point. James Wiseman had his shot to go to Kentucky, he milked his decision for all it was worth and made a huge production out of picking Memphis. In the meantime, Cal missed out on other bigtime recruits while waiting on JW to.make up his mind.
Too much time has passed now and Cal has moved on, he will not take a commitment from JW now. Plus, it doesn't matter, Wiseman signed his LOI as was stated earlier in this thread.
Oh, by the way, Cal most certainly has been successful without a dominant center. He went to the title game in 2008 and 2014 without a dominant center on either squad. He also went to the Final Four in 2011 without a dominant center.
Cal's teams are more dependent on great guard play.
Got any other brilliant takes?
It is all hypothetical. No one ever said he was backing out. But if he did, and if he wanted to come here, it would happen.
Who was the dominant Center on the 2008 Memphis team? Maybe you don't consider going to National Championship game achieving?
Sure. He would turn down the best player to prove a point. Had your chance no thanks.
Can't argue with you there :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
I do agree, I think Cal takes him in a heartbeat, but not neccesarily because he thinks it's 100% the right decision for the team. Cal still runs a business, and taking Wiseman back is a smart move. It's also another sure-fire 10-year NBA player he gets to attach his name too.
He's done it before. He has literally stopped recruiting lottery pick type players because he simply didn't like how the kids talked to their mother.
Don't believe me, look it up, he's stated it many times during interviews.
For the "he made his choice so screw him" crowd, then don't forget Herro was going to Wisconsin and Baker was going to California. I'm glad they are Wildcats now.
If Wiseman is clean and flips to UK, then great. He's a good player. Always want the best at UK.
Jmo.
If Wiseman is clean and flips to UK, then great. He's a good player. Always want the best at UK.
Jmo.