I was at the 83 game versus Clifton Community College. 24-11. F UC. They haven't beaten UK since December 1939. Why in the Hell would we schedule them?
UC as a Rival
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I remember the chatter before the game was that Yates might do that...and of course he did. I watched it on TV and it was one of the most frustrating things I've ever seen.It was actually 24-11. It was 11-7 at the half. Maybe you dozed off at the half.
Crap like this game and Dean Smith's b.s. "four-corners offense" are what brought the shot clock to college basketball. (Thank you Dean Smith for such an incredibly progressive contribution to the game.)
Cal’s last words to current UC coach.....
One-hundred percent true, John confronts this guy in Vegas, because he heard the guy was yapping. He confronts him. Cal approaches the coach and says something like, ‘Listen, I know what you’ve been saying -’
‘No, I haven’t been saying–‘
‘I know you did, I know you said what you said. I’ve heard it from enough people, but I want you to understand one thing. Yes, I am the type of guy who can come in at the last minute and take any player I want from you. You can spend your whole life recruiting a kid and at the end of the day, if I want him, I’ll get him. If we want him, we’ll get him. Don’t ever get that confused. Be appreciative every time I don’t come in and get your guy. Don’t accuse me of cheating when I do.
‘I didn’t say–‘
‘Yes you did say that. And it’s fine, but just understand, nothing stupid went on. It’s just that I’m me, and we’re Kentucky and we can come in and get that kid whenever we want.”
One-hundred percent true, John confronts this guy in Vegas, because he heard the guy was yapping. He confronts him. Cal approaches the coach and says something like, ‘Listen, I know what you’ve been saying -’
‘No, I haven’t been saying–‘
‘I know you did, I know you said what you said. I’ve heard it from enough people, but I want you to understand one thing. Yes, I am the type of guy who can come in at the last minute and take any player I want from you. You can spend your whole life recruiting a kid and at the end of the day, if I want him, I’ll get him. If we want him, we’ll get him. Don’t ever get that confused. Be appreciative every time I don’t come in and get your guy. Don’t accuse me of cheating when I do.
‘I didn’t say–‘
‘Yes you did say that. And it’s fine, but just understand, nothing stupid went on. It’s just that I’m me, and we’re Kentucky and we can come in and get that kid whenever we want.”
"Be thankful I don't take them all.".... was something I think Cal also supposedly said to Cronin.
I've worked in downtown Cincy since '94. If you think IU or Loserville fans are mouthy... you should hear the yap from Clifton U fans when they think they're 'good'. People I rarely hear from at work take timeout of their day to stop by my UK-decorated office to run their yappers when they think UK is 'ducking them' or that the bearcats are somehow a better team.
Playing them outside of having to play them in the tournament just gives them what they want. If they lose, oh well, no big deal, "UK was supposed to win". If they should somehow pull out a win, dear lord, they'd have a parade and act like they won the NC. I haven't had to deal with that in my entire life and I'd like to keep it that way.
I've worked in downtown Cincy since '94. If you think IU or Loserville fans are mouthy... you should hear the yap from Clifton U fans when they think they're 'good'. People I rarely hear from at work take timeout of their day to stop by my UK-decorated office to run their yappers when they think UK is 'ducking them' or that the bearcats are somehow a better team.
Playing them outside of having to play them in the tournament just gives them what they want. If they lose, oh well, no big deal, "UK was supposed to win". If they should somehow pull out a win, dear lord, they'd have a parade and act like they won the NC. I haven't had to deal with that in my entire life and I'd like to keep it that way.
Not using games from the 1940's in my argument though that does not mean wins regardless whenever they took place should be discarded just to make one's argument look more presentable. Just further validates my stance.Pleasantly surprised by the vote outcome. Maybe as a NKY resident I would like to see it more than others.
I will admit I am a Bengals and Reds fan so it would of been nice to see UK playing a local team in my area.
Anyways I will counter for those that say we dominate them it is a small sample size. Not sure using games from the 1940's count. Oh well BBN has spoken
Have met Cincinnati 7 times since the 80's and won 16 straight in the series. There are other teams we haven't even played 7 times total so not such a small sample size. We've played UConn/Arizona 5 times, Miami 4, Texas twice, FSU 8, Syracuse 11, UCLA 15 & Duke 21 total times compared to Cincinnati 38 times for some perspective. Played Cincinnati more than UNC, Michigan State and Kansas as well.
I'm also a Reds/Bengals fan and that does not make me want to play the Bearcats. Next!
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I say play but make them pick either a cat or a bear . They should not be allowed to have both .
Even though we play Louisville every year, Duke, UNC, Kansas & Michigan State "every few years" doesn't mean fans no longer enjoy still playing them and should all jump on board playing Cincinnati. Those teams except for Louisville are the blue bloods of college basketball, championship contenders practically every year and merit a rivalry with the winningest team in NCAA Basketball history. Like someone else mentioned, perhaps Cincinnati should become the best team in their city before trying to schedule a game with us.
As far as naming the schools I'd to like see before Cincinnati, got a long list. Gonzaga, Arizona, Villanova, Florida State, Miami, Texas, Syracuse, Baylor again, many more I could go on all day with. I'd love to play in state schools such as Western Kentucky, Northern Kentucky, Murray State.
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If we schedule them before December, we probably lose. Tough-minded bunch that can rarely beat Xavier for whatever reason and make the dance every year.
Why would we even entertain playing an insignificant city school as a rival? We already play one insignificant city school on the Ohio River. There is no good reason to play them other than the NCAA tournament if they are invited. It does nothing for our program.
Let UC play Ohio State every year, it may mean something to Buckeyes
Let UC play Ohio State every year, it may mean something to Buckeyes
If they won 1 out of 10 we'd never hear the end of it. Wouldn't give that bunch the steam off my piss.
I personally like playing different teams every year. The same teams gets old after a couple of years. I liked playing Virginia Tech because how many times do we get to play them?
I'd like maybe a home and home with Miami or Fl St. Maybe a game against Oregon/ Washington/ Minnesota/ Iowa St etc etc etc etc.
Use some imagination
I'd like maybe a home and home with Miami or Fl St. Maybe a game against Oregon/ Washington/ Minnesota/ Iowa St etc etc etc etc.
Use some imagination
Actually, one of the last teams I'd want UK to schedule.
UCONN is probably #2 on the don't schedule list.
UCONN is probably #2 on the don't schedule list.
My list would be:
1 Duke
2 Mich St
3 KU
4 UNCheat
5 NC St (selfish reasons)
6 WKU
7 IU (on our terms)
8 Villanova
9 Xavier
10 WVU
I think a Xavier v UK series would be fun. X is 9-3 vs UC in its last 12 games basically because UC does not guard the perimeter well vs X. X does not "need" UK because the Big East prepares teams very well for March. Guards win in March. The Big East is all about guards. X smoked Maryland and Florida St (both top 15 teams AP) in March last year because of the back court. X beat AZ because the Wildcats were soft inside. UK will never visit Cintas Center. It's a shame. Maybe someday. I will always respect UK's success but I think X would do just fine at Rupp Arena.
It would be a good game however, UK does not "need" Xavier either. They are a very good team, a change up in who usually is on the schedule but Kentucky is not scared shitless of anyone. Cal has taken his teams into Kansas, UCLA & North Carolina.Kentucky would have more success at the Cintas Center than Xavier would at Rupp Arena. Rumors of a series with Xavier have come up on KSR.
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