Cal ruined this team.

AllBall

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I'd be more apt to agree if Diallo was playing and taking minutes. How does a kid who is not even getting/taking minutes negatively impact the team? He can't be anything but an upgrade to go against in practice, so what is the issue?

Or is it the fact that team is just lacking some pieces, plays a small 3 guard lineup with 1 shooter being relied upon to hit, and has a hole at SF, and a PF who has to masquerade as a Center and has limited and robotic post moves? The bench is bad, although I'd give Dom Hawkins some shoes next game instead of the ice skates or whatever the hell he was wearing that forced him to slip/fall on the court all night. Willis is an unmotivated, soft minded guy who is a good front runner. Humphries isn't a UK caliber player. Neither is Wynyard. Briscoe is a Slice recruit and plays like that. Some love that gritty, street ball, pound the ball into the ground and create a shot for myself game. I think UK is better with him scoring 8-10 a game and deferring. I also think they'll be better when he leaves. Others disagree.

Great coaches can have off years and I agree that Cal has done a poor job to this point with this team. They haven't shown a proven leader, yet he's taking trips/time off as if they can be trusted in the hands of a leader. UK isn't paying Cal to have Ulis coach the team or Briscoe. The Ulis coached team had worst results of any NCAA UK team under Cal. This one could surpass that unless he takes over and starts doing his job. That doesn't mean to yell/scream and try to make these guys into past UK greats. It means find a way they can play their best TOGETHER and adjust to coaching them that way--and force them to play that way. Or take people's minutes and stage away from them. But he's had a ****** year imo as a Coach to this point in terms of understanding this group isn't as elite as he may have assumed. And he certainly has done a lot of things away from the program that benefit him and don't benefit UK.

Do think he's understanding this program needs to move away from small ball and get bigger and he's recruited like it. My friend who has some insight mentioned that Cal privately thinks this group is too soft and he can't stand 2 players on the team. He may say publicly how much he "loves his team" but he's realizing need for size and toughness.
Cal chooses to play freshmen so don't complain we are young or not as physical. You are giving up 2-3 yrs of prime physical maturation and skill development.

How many times can the 5th grade all-stars beat a 7th grade team?
 

sa_hunt

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Would love to see one of you morons who believe Diallo is the reason behind our struggles actually post something logical in regards to this theory. Oh wait; there is no logical explanation for Diallo contributing to our struggles. Got it.
I don't necessarily believe Diallo coming has anything to do with it but there is for sure some logic in it being possible. When you bring in a 5 star stud who CAN play your position, even though they say he's not going to play, that may affect young guys. He is eligible to get playing time and some players may resent Cal for bringing him on early.
 

JimBR_rivals319758

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At the beginning of the season teams don't know how to play other teams. With our talent a hot start. Coaches learn and figure out how to defend you. Especially true in conference games. And Ky gets everyone's best shot. Let's see how these guys respond to adversity.
 

wromanp7

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At the beginning of the season teams don't know how to play other teams. With our talent a hot start. Coaches learn and figure out how to defend you. Especially true in conference games. And Ky gets everyone's best shot. Let's see how these guys respond to adversity.
Not that I disagree..

But losing to Tennessee, then to Kansas, and barely beating Georgia should have been enough adversity.
 

Mike-D

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Briscoe has been nothing short of terrible since 2017. He's not a leader. Leaders don't skip the hand shake. Dude can't leave here fast enough.
 
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EliteBlue

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I feel like he hurt the 2015 team with his insistence on pounding it in the post. I think the South Carolina game we played bad down low and he said he was going to tweak our inside game. From that point on our shooters started passing up shots and thinking about it too much. That messes with a shooter. I know there needs to be balance, and we also had KAT, but a team that had been on its toes and gutting people, seemed like they started playing on their heels more. I know it sounds crazy about a 38-1 team, but it is how I see it. That team was so good early but he messed them up.
It absolutely happened. And I've been saying the same thing about this team. The emphasis on pounding it inside and playing half court killed what this team was good at.
 

UKCatNnc

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Bam needs to learn to give the ball up. Players would not feed him because he rarely gives it up. He did once last night. Bam is also hacked continuously.
And the one time Bam passed the ball out to the wing we got a three. He lacks the basketball IQ for running the offense through him. When they collapse two or three on him he needs to pass it out and not try to make a weird abbreviated hook/slam dunky thing outside of reach of the basket. Go Cats!!
 

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I think that this is what happens when your create a culture of "everything is about the players," when it should be "all about the team".

Sometimes, you have very coachable players and have different upbringings, values, etc. and are team players. When those players come in, they work well in our program.

However, when you insert players that are not naturally team players, into this program with this culture, you encourage too much self-interest and they don't sacrifice themselves for sake of team or their points.
 

TheWyldKat_rivals45219

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Back in November and December we looked like the best team in the country. The guys were having a blast on the court. Now we look like an NIT team full of miserable players who spend most of the game arguing with the refs and each other.

I don't know what Cal did to them but i wish he had left them alone.
Defense defense defense, that's what has happened. If we can't make stops then we cannot get into transition. We are a transition scoring team mainly. We were playing much much better defense earlier in the year. Add in the turnovers and lack of effort, diving for balls, getting rebounds, and you have our current team.
 

wromanp7

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I think that this is what happens when your create a culture of "everything is about the players," when it should be "all about the team".

Sometimes, you have very coachable players and have different upbringings, values, etc. and are team players. When those players come in, they work well in our program.

However, when you insert players that are not naturally team players, into this program with this culture, you encourage too much self-interest and they don't sacrifice themselves for sake of team or their points.
Player's first is overblown.

Cal says players first to the cameras for recruiting but day to day it's la familia.

It's a two way street. UK and Cal put the players first that put team first. That's the message.

Now we see what happens when the effort doesn't match up.
 

Lukasz0brzut

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Briscoe can never drive baseline in the half court because he always runs into Bam posting up.

Honestly, Bam has shown that he can hit a free throw shot in rhythm. (As good as 66% of our guards) why do we never try to use him there, make the defense come out and allow for a drive instead of clogging the paint every time when driving from the wing.
 
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JeffEngland

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I'm tired of briscoe defenders. He only gets his stats from changing the way we play which screws our mojo up. When briscoe plays his way, it makes it hard for others. I'm not saying it's impossible to have him play well and us win. I'm saying when his stats look great no one else s do - typically.
Brisco gets a long rope because Cal is doing all he can to make sure he gets drafted. Nobody will convince me of any different. I honestly think that until Cal starts coaching like a coach who's main focus is to win games instead of getting people drafted, we are going to continue to spiral. He may have lost this team. I can honestly say, this team has not improved any any aspect of the game since the season started, may have regressed.
 

Raroyder

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We need to stop forcing the ball into the post. This has been a definitive change after December.

Post up basketball being a key to success is one of the biggest basketball myths of all time. As far as points per attempt goes, this year post ups get 0.79 points per shot attempt. Meanwhile, a corner three yields 1.29. A layup gets you 1.8 pts per attempt.

So why do teams attempt to score off of post up moves down low? "Because that's the way you play the game."

For those that don't like stats or analytics, just compare the last 3 seasons of Villanova Basketall with Georgia Basketball. That's all you really need to do.
 
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c0d0r123

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Do think he's understanding this program needs to move away from small ball and get bigger and he's recruited like it. My friend who has some insight mentioned that Cal privately thinks this group is too soft and he can't stand 2 players on the team. He may say publicly how much he "loves his team" but he's realizing need for size and toughness.

That's a pretty damning statement if true.
 

brianpoe

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improving bams draft stock more important then wins players first remember I like it when basketball ball was a team sport

Brisco gets a long rope because Cal is doing all he can to make sure he gets drafted. Nobody will convince me of any different. I honestly think that until Cal starts coaching like a coach who's main focus is to win games instead of getting people drafted, we are going to continue to spiral. He may have lost this team. I can honestly say, this team has not improved any any aspect of the game since the season started, may have regressed.

He needs Bam out to make room for our incoming big guys!! Plus players FIRST...:))




Cal wants to win more than you 3 knuckleheads put together.

If you really do not know this then you havent been paying attention or refuse to accept reality.
 

steelecat

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Brisco gets a long rope because Cal is doing all he can to make sure he gets drafted. Nobody will convince me of any different. I honestly think that until Cal starts coaching like a coach who's main focus is to win games instead of getting people drafted, we are going to continue to spiral. He may have lost this team. I can honestly say, this team has not improved any any aspect of the game since the season started, may have regressed.
Do you really think Cal doesn't want to win. He has probably won more games than any other coach in college basketball since he has been here. Coaches are judged on wins and loses. Do you think he doesn't care about that. Wanting what's best for your player and your team are not contradictory things. Any good coach should care about his players and want to do the best he can for them.
 

WeepNoMore

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Back in November and December we looked like the best team in the country. The guys were having a blast on the court. Now we look like an NIT team full of miserable players who spend most of the game arguing with the refs and each other.

I don't know what Cal did to them but i wish he had left them alone.

Gotta disagree!!!

AAU basketball ruined this "team". Individual play is incompatible with team play! :sunglasses:

I suppose Coach Cal must take some of the blame for not reigning in the individual play early on when we were playing the cupcakes.
 

Burly

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Look I think the Dialo comment was a joke.
Cal has a flawed roster...We are not that good.
Downslide started with insistence to force ball to a very ineffective post man.
We have no bench & 2 of our guards can't shoot
If I'm him I start trapping in half court to get a up tempo and on offense we go to a spread even putting Bam in short corner and just attack and kick
 

UKCatNnc

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Brisco gets a long rope because Cal is doing all he can to make sure he gets drafted. Nobody will convince me of any different. I honestly think that until Cal starts coaching like a coach who's main focus is to win games instead of getting people drafted, we are going to continue to spiral. He may have lost this team. I can honestly say, this team has not improved any any aspect of the game since the season started, may have regressed.
That long rope, along with a clogged middle is hurting him more than it is helping him. Go Cats!!
 

mjj_2K

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We need to stop forcing the ball into the post. This has been a definitive change after December.

Post up basketball being a key to success is one of the biggest basketball myths of all time. As far as points per attempt goes, this year post ups get 0.79 points per shot attempt. Meanwhile, a corner three yields 1.29. A layup gets you 1.8 pts per attempt.

So why do teams attempt to score off of post up moves down low? "Because that's the way you play the game."

For those that don't like stats or analytics, just compare the last 3 seasons of Villanova Basketall with Georgia Basketball. That's all you really need to do.
I tend to agree with this. And honestly, I have to start to wonder if Cal is becoming Denny Crum/John Thompson in the early 90's. The game changes. Adjust accordingly, or suffer the consequences.

Cal loves bullyball, meaning bigger, faster, stronger guys overwhelming people, mostly in the lane and around the hoop. But this isn't a bullyball team. There's not enough size, Bam isn't a true post player, and the guards operate better in space (even Briscoe, because as much of a bull as he is, he still needs driving lanes).

Not to mention that the game as a whole is getting away from that style, exactly because of the numbers you posted. People get up in arms about a contested 3, but is it really any worse than a 5 foot turnaround taken right in the teeth of a double-team? Jump shots are not evil, they are necessary, and some of the most beautiful basketball on the planet consists of great ball movement leading to wide open 3 pointers. I question whether Cal believes that, and I wonder if he's behind the curve because of it.
 
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brianpoe

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Look I think the Dialo comment was a joke.
Cal has a flawed roster...We are not that good.
Downslide started with insistence to force ball to a very ineffective post man.
We have no bench & 2 of our guards can't shoot
If I'm him I start trapping in half court to get a up tempo and on offense we go to a spread even putting Bam in short corner and just attack and kick


I agreed with all of this until you said trapping... maybe in the half court but our pressure defense is really really bad.
 

turkeywildturkey

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Back in November and December we looked like the best team in the country. The guys were having a blast on the court. Now we look like an NIT team full of miserable players who spend most of the game arguing with the refs and each other.

I don't know what Cal did to them but i wish he had left them alone.

You're an idiot. Period.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Back in November and December we looked like the best team in the country. The guys were having a blast on the court. Now we look like an NIT team full of miserable players who spend most of the game arguing with the refs and each other.

I don't know what Cal did to them but i wish he had left them alone.

Not plating cupcakes anymore.
 
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Back in November and December we looked like the best team in the country. The guys were having a blast on the court. Now we look like an NIT team full of miserable players who spend most of the game arguing with the refs and each other.

I don't know what Cal did to them but i wish he had left them alone.

You're an idiot. Period.

 

dave5164

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These fair weather fans that says Coach Cal has ruined this team hasn't heard Coach Cal in the last 4 games. Coach Cal has said we need to get back where we were when we was playing great ball and winning by 25-30 every night. We were scoring 95-100 points a game and giving up 70 a game and looking great every game. Coach Cal has said number of times over past 4 games that we need to get back to those days we were playing great and everyone was saying we are headed to the Final Four and possibly a National Championship. There are a number of Top 10 teams right now going through the same as we are right now. In last 2 weeks we have seen Top 10 teams lose once or twice a week. Most of the great teams right now has 4 or 5 losses. We need to as a fan base not to give up on these young kids and not trashing these kids and Coach Cal. I will bet before March Madness Coach Cal has this team back to playing great basketball and ready to make another run in the NCAA Tourney and a chance at another Final Four and possibly a National Championship.
 

LineSkiCat14

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Mentally, from a work ethic standpoint, not the best bunch of recruits. I think Cal just whiffed on this one, nothing more.

I wonder if these kids, coming up and watching the last 7 Kentucky teams go to the NBA, thought this might be a gimme.

Cal does have to fix this going forward though. He needs to remember that he's paid to win games. Maybe vet these recruits a little more, maybe be a bit stricter. Loosen the leash for the reservers, and tighten it on the top recruits.
 

stoneycat_20

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Just came here to post it. Instead of letting guards free flow like they were, and Bam get what comes to him, Cal forced the issue and it disrupted everything.
Thank you..Ive said this x1000..No need to force the ball to Bam when he's not that great yet..He needs to rebound get put backs and play D..
 

morgousky

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Thank you..Ive said this x1000..No need to force the ball to Bam when he's not that great yet..He needs to rebound get put backs and play D..

I'm not sure about this. Right now you've got young arrogant players that don't want to listen. They want to run run run like it's an AAU tournament. We can't run like that in the tournament. If we try we'll be gone. We can't maintain trying to score 100 every night. Our defense isn't good enough and they won't play it while expelling 100% of their energy flying up and down the court.

He's trying to shorten the game up a bit and get Bam to be a high percentage threat. We will need it in the tournament because our defense isn't good enough to rely on low percentage shots.

I agree Cal messed with what worked at the time. But Cal knows they would be one bad shooting night from gone if Bam can't establish himself. So far Bam is a wuss and won't demand the respect or finish and create trust.

Cal simplifies the game too much too early sometimes. He shouldn't have waited this long to work them into it. But I don't think he realized how stubborn this group would be.

He's not gonna bend on this anyway. Another problem I have this season is Cal is letting another group "hikack" his squad and not listen. Put them on the bench. I'd applaud it for the first 5 minutes of the next game and I think 90% of the fan base would applaud it too.
 

UKCatNnc

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I don't know what's going on with Briscoe. He used to be a great finisher around the rim, now he's can't finish anything hardly.
Our opponents are clogging the lane and it is stopping our offense. Go Cats!!