North Carolina Scandal Etc

[wromanp7]

I'm not sure which is worse.. a coach knowing or not knowing.

At least if a coach did know it could be he that was orchestrating everything... Bullying, even.

But without knowledge? It's really just the university making the decision in a more global sense.

 

[RonEJones]

That RC dude pulled one of the best catfish trolls of all-time. Gotta give him his dues. With that said, I still hope there's enough in there to take down a few banners.

 

[rick64]

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article73736122.html

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

Manlishi's credibility took a hit on PP. The imposter duped him into passing on his bogus information as his own apparently.

 

[IdaCat]

Aligned???????

 

[Supreme Lord Z]

If a person really has inside info they want out then that is easy to do and no games are needed. When the half-information, puzzles, and semi-information is what you deal in, then you are just trying to create a narrative to make yourself look like an insider. See it all the time.

If you know something, say what it is. If you don't then shut up. No need for games.

 

[UK’98UK’00]

Sorry,not so computer savvy, but it's on USA Today

 

[preacherfan]

Sorry,not so computer savvy, but it's on USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ves-updated-notice-allegations-ncaa/83498002/

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

UNCheat dribbled out info to the NCAA, resulting in delays and refiling of allegations in order to run the clock out on Statute of Limitations.

 

[catdance]

"UNC again has 90 days to respond — which is often the point when schools self-impose penalties if they choose to do so".
I never heard that UofL had received their NOA. Did they?

 

[TruBluCatFan]

UNCheat dribbled out info to the NCAA, resulting in delays and refiling of allegations in order to run the clock out on Statute of Limitations.

Stature of limitations doesn't expire between NOA and amended NOA. It is stopped by the initial filing.

 

[IdaCat]

UNC released the new NOA.

LINK

 

[RoyKent]

Basketball isn't going to be punished...would bet a lot on it.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Here: http://3qh929iorux3fdpl532k03kg.wpe.../2016/04/NOA_Amended_042516_NorthCarolina.pdf

 

[hotelblue]

just a little hello.

 

[Montana81]

Ha ha wow. Congrats to UNC fans IMO. They are going to get off scott free.

 

[IdaCat]

:flush:

 

[MWes11]

Basketball isn't going to be punished...would bet a lot on it.

Pretty much all you need to know. Ridiculous.

Michael DeCourcy ‏@tsnmike 2m2 minutes ago
What's really weird about NCAA's amended notice to North Carolina is apparent withdrawal of "extra benefit" allegations re: aberrant courses

 

[wromanp7]

I've scanned the document and agree.
It's almost entirely women's basketball.

With all the evidence to the contrary I still think they get hammered. No way the world sits by and allows the committee and the university in this blatant collusion.

 

[Montana81]

Honestly I'm not surprised. It's open season now though. UNC showed everyone the blue print to getting away with decades of systematic cheating.

 

[IdaCat]

Dear Chancellor Folt:
The purpose of this letter and its enclosure is to provide the University of North
Carolina, Chapel Hill, with an amended notice of allegations. Please note that the
policies and procedures outlined in the May 20, 2015, notice of allegations and
corresponding cover letter still apply.

Not sure what this means ^.

 

[Barry MuCockinher]

I honestly cannot figure out how basketball wouldn't get any punishment!!! They played ineligible players who took fake classes. That in turn makes them academically ineligible, therefore all games played should be forfeited. Explain to me how this is different from Memphis playing ONE academically ineligible player and being stripped of that season! Anyone with a logical explanation of the difference between the 2, no jokes needed looking for an serious expla

 

[wromanp7]

Honestly I'm not surprised. It's open season now though. UNC showed everyone the blue print to getting away with decades of systematic cheating.

Except now NCAA is closing those loops.
UNC IBTL.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

It's not clear whether this is heavily edited by UNC. I don't see how the charges got LESS serious over the past year when all that happened was more violations reported by UNC-Cheats.

Exactly. I'm equally confused. I'm curious how reporting additional violations in men's soccer and the women's basketball suddenly wipes away all mention of football and men's basketball.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

If it says the previous NOA still applies...... that one still mentions football and mens basketball. Sounds to me like what UNC released today is focused solely on the new stuff with womens basketball that they threw into the mix

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Please note that the
policies and procedures outlined in the May 20, 2015, notice of allegations and
corresponding cover letter still apply.

I don't think there is much to read into that. I think this just pertains to deadlines to respond and the like. More procedural than substantive. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[TruBluCatFan]

Exactly. I'm equally confused. I'm curious how reporting additional violations in men's soccer and the women's basketball suddenly wipes away all mention of football and men's basketball.

Surely to God the NOA is just for the new allegations and the original NOA still stands on its own.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Yeah ... all 5 level 1 violations are on women's basketball and soccer huh?

 

[IdaCat]

I don't think there is much to read into that. I think this just pertains to deadlines to respond and the like. More procedural than substantive. I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, I'm no lawyer, but I think you are probably correct.

 

[dynastydreamuk]

I hate the NCAA, I hope this is just additional stuff, how could things come off the last NOA

 

[IdaCat]

Yeah ... all 5 level 1 violations are on women's basketball and soccer huh?

The shameless corruption on display is mind blowing .

 

[Montana81]

UNC has better lawyers than OJ.

 

[TruBluCatFan]

IMO, this amended NOA is really a supplemental NOA. The original NOA was 55 pages. I have a copy saved on my phone. All the allegations in the new one are additional allegations.

There is no way 55 pages of allegations were condensed to 12 after reporting new information to the NCAA.

If not the the Emmert will be playing his violin as the NCAA burns.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Guess we'll just have to wait for the NCAA to lay out the punishment to see if UNC redacted all info on men's bball and football.

I'd like to see the NCAA answer for their justification in removing anything from the previous NOA.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

IMO, this amended NOA is really a supplemental NOA. The original NOA was 55 pages. I have a copy saved on my phone. All the allegations in the new one are additional allegations.

There is no way 55 pages of allegations were condensed to 12 after reporting new information to the NCAA.

If not the the Emmert will be playing his violin as the NCAA burns.

you make a darn good point

 

[dynastydreamuk]

IMO, this amended NOA is really a supplemental NOA. The original NOA was 55 pages. I have a copy saved on my phone. All the allegations in the new one are additional allegations.

There is no way 55 pages of allegations were condensed to 12 after reporting new information to the NCAA.

If not the the Emmert will be playing his violin as the NCAA burns.

Exactly where did 43 pages go!!!!

Guess we'll just have to wait for the NCAA to lay out the punishment to see if UNC redacted all info on men's bball and football.

I'd like to see the NCAA answer for their justification in removing anything from the previous NOA.

We will all just have to wait and see

 

[Montana81]

IMO, this amended NOA is really a supplemental NOA. The original NOA was 55 pages. I have a copy saved on my phone. All the allegations in the new one are additional allegations.

There is no way 55 pages of allegations were condensed to 12 after reporting new information to the NCAA.

If not the the Emmert will be playing his violin as the NCAA burns.

Yeah that was my thought too. I'm more interested than furious at this point.

 

[uky8unc5]

IMO, this amended NOA is really a supplemental NOA. The original NOA was 55 pages. I have a copy saved on my phone. All the allegations in the new one are additional allegations.

There is no way 55 pages of allegations were condensed to 12 after reporting new information to the NCAA.

If not the the Emmert will be playing his violin as the NCAA burns.

Gulp...I hope you're wrong. The Raleigh News Observer isn't treating it as an addendum. But Dan Kane wasn't the reporter, so I'll hold my tongue until the King Kane gives us the accurate analysis.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Or the new one has all the old stuff in it and UNC just withheld like 50 pages in an attempt to make everyone think they are skating by.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Its not the full NOA, its the redacted NOA after UNC's lawyers got a hold of it. Some of you even posted jokes about how the NOA would be only 3 sentences long and not mention anything after the lawyers edited it. And now that that is exactly what happened some of you are freaking out. [laughing] Gotta love the internet.