North Carolina Scandal Etc

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KopiKat

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There is some bad news, though.

Three “banners” likely aren’t at risk.

..… It could be a lot closer to 15, if some of the chatter is correct.

Yeah, that women's national title is coming down too. Never let it be forgotten that the biggest individual fraud in the history of organized sport, Marion Jones, played for that unc national championship basketball team. Too fitting. No other institution could have conditioned her for deceit crafts as well. Say what you will of Lance Armstrong. He never went to prison.
 
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Academic counselor, Philosophy lecturer, and sports ethicist Jan Boxill taught many such courses herself, including 160 in one eight-year period (see Cheated, p. 185.) But Boxill knew she was not alone. A longtime instructor with contacts all over campus and an iron will to help athletes, she also regularly leaned on colleagues in other departments to offer their own independent study (or similar) courses whenever select populations of athletes needed them. The assignments in these courses were presumably cooked up in a professor’s office with little or no input from the student (making a mockery of the very concept of the independent study), and in some cases the connection between “instructor” and “project” was so thin as to be non-existent. During one summer session an athlete emailed Boxill to find out the identity of the Geography instructor for whom he or she had written a paper. The unconcerned Boxill responded that “I’m calling to see if you can just send them directly to John Florin,” thus naming a key contributing partner to the UNC eligibility system over a period of decades. A neighbor and friend of basketball team counselor Burgess McSwain, Florin offered sections of Geography 95, “Topics in Geography,” every year, with athletes crowding in each time. They invariably got helpful grades. (One basketball player in desperate straits enrolled in TWO sections of GEOG 95 in a single summer session in the 1990s, making A’s in both sections.)
 

OldRed

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Willingham & Smith (the professor, not the cheating basketball coach) are bringing the heat
Wow! That is a real indictment of UNC**** if true. I have little doubt that it is all completely true. Any player getting two A's in same class in two simultaneous sessions should be immediately ineligible. How could that even happen? It sounds like the culture of corruption is pervasive and ingrained at UNC****************.
 

awf

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We say Co Coler.
When I lived in NC years ago the folks back up in the mountains called soft drinks dope. I was excited the first time my father in law asked if I wanted a dope. Being from the city I thought he was going to break out a big j-boy. WRONG!
 

neogeezer

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When I lived in NC years ago the folks back up in the mountains called soft drinks dope. I was excited the first time my father in law asked if I wanted a dope. Being from the city I thought he was going to break out a big j-boy. WRONG!
If we want the good stuff, we put bourbon in our cocoler.
 

awf

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With the corruption as deep as it was/is at UNC**** I have questioned for quite some time if this was only in one department? How many other faux classes were there? The present evidence shows that they were not exactly bashful about cheating?
 

Mark Gastineau

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Everyone in that thread is 100% confident that absolutely nothing will happen to men's basketball
I cannot wait to see them try and explain away the amended notice of allegations. Lot of idiots over there who never sniffed law school are all of a sudden legal experts and are sure that UNC has a viable case against the NCAA if appropriate sanctions are levied. What a riot.
 
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BBUK_anon

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Where has Ole tickle me Elmo been? Banned? I haven't seen his posts for a couple or few pages. I may have missed them or has he stated all he had to state? Same Bat time, same Bat channel....
 

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CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP) A person with knowledge of the investigation says North Carolina has received a new Notice of Allegations from the NCAA outlining violations connected to the school’s long-running academic fraud scandal.

This jumpstarts a case that has been stalled in a procedural limbo since August.

The person spoke Monday to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because UNC hasn’t made a formal statement about the second notice’s arrival. The person declined to comment on changes contained in this document compared to the notice sent last May.

That first document hit the school with five potential top-level violations, including lack of institutional control. UNC had 90 days to respond, but that process paused in August when the school reported additional information to the NCAA for review.
 

mebeblue2

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I cannot wait to see them try and explain away the amended notice of allegations. Lot of idiots over there who never sniffed law school are all of a sudden legal experts and are sure that UNC has a viable case against the NCAA if appropriate sanctions are levied. What a riot.

Mark you would know this answer better than I
if i am not mistaken, schools can not bring a lawsuit against the NCAA
so i am guessing the only thing their lawyers can fight is the punishment.
 

akaukswoosh

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The 'Inside Carolina' crowd thinks this is a day of celebration -- the day this becomes a scandal about women's basketball and soccer and Men's Basketball recruiting kicks back into high gear.

I guess we'll see.
That bunch has been in group denial for months and months.
 

akaukswoosh

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By Andrew Carter

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CHAPEL HILL
For months the long-running NCAA infractions case at UNC-Chapel Hill had been at a standstill while university officials waited to receive an amended Notice of Allegations from the NCAA. That wait is now over.

UNC on Monday confirmed receipt of the amended Notice of Allegations (NOA), which again details the results of the NCAA’s investigation into a scheme of suspect African Studies classes that benefited athletes in disproportionate numbers. The new NOA, like the first, wasn’t immediately released.


And so its contents, and how it compares to the original NOA that UNC received last May, remained unclear on Monday. The amended NOA will eventually be released publicly in modified form, after the university’s legal team redacts part of it.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article73736122.html#storylink=cpy
 
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KopiKat

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Ryan just reported a new NOA has been served to the cheats.

Good . . . this starts the process that will make us the 1993 national champs. Aligned for 9 user name too perfect.

Congrats also to new 2005 national champion Illinois and new 2009 national champion Michigan State.
 
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BBUK_anon

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Good . . . this starts the process that will make us the 1993 national champs. Aligned for 9 user name too perfect.

Congrats also to new 2005 national champion Illinois and new 2009 national champion Michigan State.

We can only hope...
 
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Good . . . this starts the process that will make us the 1993 national champs. Aligned for 9 user name too perfect.

Congrats also to new 2005 national champion Illinois and new 2009 national champion Michigan State.

It doesn't work like that. The titles will just be vacated.
 
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