North Carolina Scandal Etc

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LadyCaytIL

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Lol the unc fans think only women's basketball and soccer will get hit because individuals arent named specifically. I suppose men's basketball and football were just named for sh*ts and giggles.

see in my rational world that I live in...... Basketball players are a part of the basketball team and the basketball team is a part of the athletic department ... so which world are the uncheat fans living in?
 
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carbonlib23

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they are bound by the rules of the NCAA because they are voluntary members. Filing an injunction may fall under different guidelines tho......

it's all about managing the fire...
 

Mark Gastineau

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Mark you would know this answer better than I
if i am not mistaken, schools can not bring a lawsuit against the NCAA
so i am guessing the only thing their lawyers can fight is the punishment.
Don't know for sure. I think if any lawsuit against the NCAA were to get filed, and I honestly doubt UNC is dumb enough to take that avenue, they would primarily be arguing that the NCAA is beyond its jurisdiction in this instance. But again, I think UNC would be absolutely foolish to open itself up to discovery, which would certainly happen if a lawsuit were filed.
 
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Untouchables22

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I'm hearing rumblings the New NOA is going to be released today...can anyone confirm???? Also thanks to Tom Brady today is the PERFECT day to release...all the sports networks will be doing wall to wall Brady coverage.
 

KyCat

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if its getting released today... that means UNC has had it for a week or two already .
I think it was released to UNC not released to the general public. I suspect it will be several days or even a few weeks before UNC redacts what it considers possible FERPA violations of naming students (wink/wink, nod/nod)
 

KMKAT

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Deflect-gate is what this should be called, and naming anyone defending the UNC cause. Its a long list of media, conference and school officials.
 

Spanish Radio

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I think it was released to UNC not released to the general public. I suspect it will be several days or even a few weeks before UNC redacts what it considers possible FERPA violations of naming students (wink/wink, nod/nod)
Speculation on the ncstate board is that UNC's attorneys have had the NOA and have just sent it to UNC. The redaction could have already taken place. UNC will not release the factual information today which is the proof used by the NCAA to bring the charges.

Who knows...If there is a 6th LOIC charge in there and it has the words "academic fraud" or the equivalent that will make UNC's liver quiver.
 

bigbluehomer

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Willingham & Smith (the professor, not the cheating basketball coach) are bringing the heat

Wow. Unless I'm mistaken, JS & MW haven't revealed names of the rank and file professors before. This along with the receipt of the ANOA today, or at least UNC's acknowledgement of it, appears to be a sure sign that the beginning of the end is upon us.

Nice job of laying out some of the wide swath of classes/departments that the fraud obviously involved. Can't wait to see the transcripts of the conversations. Jay and Mary bringing the heat INDEED! LOL!
 

LadyCaytIL

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There are a few people who have been saying UNC has had the new NOA for several days.... Those people obviously have good sources
 

KopiKat

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Kansas has already claimed 1993 "Co-Champion" status based on losing to UNC in the Final Four, and hung a banner near the Helms ones. That may end up being as close as Roy gets to keeping one.

sounds novel enough I can just about go along with it. Makes him very "needy"
 

mebeblue2

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Don't know for sure. I think if any lawsuit against the NCAA were to get filed, and I honestly doubt UNC is dumb enough to take that avenue, they would primarily be arguing that the NCAA is beyond its jurisdiction in this instance. But again, I think UNC would be absolutely foolish to open itself up to discovery, which would certainly happen if a lawsuit were filed.

if i am not mistaken (old age) with Penn ST. it was the State and not the school that filed the lawsuit
i agree, the last thing UNC wants is people testifying under oath
 
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KopiKat

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It doesn't work like that. The titles will just be vacated.

what do you mean it doesn't work like that? didn't you see what I typed? have you taken an actual look in the Dean Dome Rafters lately? You can make a national championship out of thin freaking air for crying out loud.
 

UK_Dallas

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Looks as though the RCC person punked us all and is a unc fan according to Twitter profile update.
 

UK_Dallas

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"regurgitated from a year ago" doesn't make sense if we're to believe that a 6th level 1 (LOIC) and an additional level 2 are included.
That guy has now been proven to be a fake. Nobody knows what is in the new one. Hopefully A49 wasn't using this RCC as a source.
 

LadyCaytIL

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That guy has now been proven to be a fake. Nobody knows what is in the new one. Hopefully A49 wasn't using this RCC as a source.

Even by the admission of RCC.... he's only been running this punk for a couple of weeks. So basically all the stuff where people think they know whats in the new NOA.... that stuff is bogus for right now.

SO lets go with what we do know... and thats the origional NOA... in which nothing should be touched on.... only added to... and with it ... UNC's azz should be grazz??? grass.. you know what i mean lol.
 

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Even by the admission of RCC.... he's only been running this punk for a couple of weeks. So basically all the stuff where people think they know whats in the new NOA.... that stuff is bogus for right now.

SO lets go with what we do know... and thats the origional NOA... in which nothing should be touched on.... only added to... and with it ... UNC's azz should be grazz??? grass.. you know what i mean lol.


Except this is kind of disturbing


[QUOTE="The AFRI/AFAM department created anomalous courses that went unchecked for 18 years. This allowed individuals within ASPSA (the academic support program for student-athletes) to use these courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men’s basketball and women’s basketball.”


Despite that language, though, the sports of men’s basketball and football weren’t charged with specific allegations of wrongdoing. And neither was anyone – head coaches, assistant coaches, academic support staff members – associated with those teams
.[/QUOTE]
 
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Except this is kind of disturbing


[QUOTE="The AFRI/AFAM department created anomalous courses that went unchecked for 18 years. This allowed individuals within ASPSA (the academic support program for student-athletes) to use these courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men’s basketball and women’s basketball.”


Despite that language, though, the sports of men’s basketball and football weren’t charged with specific allegations of wrongdoing. And neither was anyone – head coaches, assistant coaches, academic support staff members – associated with those teams
.
[/QUOTE]

The athletes apparently decided en masse to start enrolling in them and them pass the info along to each successive class, with the staff never knowing a thing about it.

Sounds reasonable.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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Except this is kind of disturbing


[QUOTE="The AFRI/AFAM department created anomalous courses that went unchecked for 18 years. This allowed individuals within ASPSA (the academic support program for student-athletes) to use these courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men’s basketball and women’s basketball.”


Despite that language, though, the sports of men’s basketball and football weren’t charged with specific allegations of wrongdoing. And neither was anyone – head coaches, assistant coaches, academic support staff members – associated with those teams
.
[/QUOTE]

Are the players who benefited not part of the basketball team? Since when did a coach have to be named or accused to hand down punishments ?

how does the NCAA punish just an athletic department? Do they suspend the secretaries for 2 weeks and the A.D. for a month? how would that work?


5 level 1 allegations against UNC.... but uh oh... they all disappear because the NCAA cant tag anyone on it specifically ?
 

nookam

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Punished for Rose and Camby, yet these cocksuckers always get the breaks. Duke and Kansas need punished too, tired of the obvious bias of Emmert led NCAA.
 

LadyCaytIL

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The UNC p.r. firm is desperately trying to get people to believe that punishment can not occur unless a coaching staff member was named personally. Dont believe that bull for a second. If people bought into that, it gives them an out because if the NCAA can let them go without a public back lash ... they will.

If UNC was so confident that nothing would happen.... then why delay this process in the first place?
 
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