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Jamal Murray = Archie Goodwin 2.0

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Yeah, Cut-Nets is the worst. I agreed with zaytoven about something awhile back, he's probably not a troll but often has bad takes. Cut-Nets has to be a troll, I saw where someone suspected him of being a Memphis fan, that would make sense.
 
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ZaytovenCat said:
Much like another fellow freshmen and this team in general, Murray is very overrated. Outside of an exhibition game and 1-2 regular games he's shot like crap and he's turned into a turnover waiting to happen. At this point he's playing identical to how Goodwin played here.

Where's are those posters from earlier this year who said it was too early to worry about anything and that everything would be fine?

At this point I'm more looking forward to 2017 than April 2016 because we are a S16 team at best right now.
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Your a stupid ***...............Murray is only getting started will avg 20 by Feb
 
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ZaytovenCat said:
Much like another fellow freshmen and this team in general, Murray is very overrated. Outside of an exhibition game and 1-2 regular games he's shot like crap and he's turned into a turnover waiting to happen. At this point he's playing identical to how Goodwin played here.

Where's are those posters from earlier this year who said it was too early to worry about anything and that everything would be fine?

At this point I'm more looking forward to 2017 than April 2016 because we are a S16 team at best right now.
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Your opinion is a huge turd...flush it
 
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Murray reminds me more of...



Same height, similar weight. Could hit the 3 and throw down a highlight dunk now and then. Of course this guy was a 2x Champion and tournament MOP.

I think Murray will be fine. He has the right mindset and motivation from what I can see. I'd be more concerned about Skal. He's like Wiltjer 2.0, except he can't hit 3's and he isn't quite as strong :cool:
 
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WindyCityWildcat said:
Murray reminds me more of...



Same height, similar weight. Could hit the 3 and throw down a highlight dunk now and then. Of course this guy was a 2x Champion and tournament MOP.

I think Murray will be fine. He has the right mindset and motivation from what I can see. I'd be more concerned about Skal. He's like Wiltjer 2.0, except he can't hit 3's and he isn't quite as strong :cool:
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To me that's a great comparison.
 
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No it's not, but I didn't throw out a ridiculous claim before the season was even over. Stats don't back your case now.
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Brandon Knight is my favorite guard Cal has had while here...but Jamal Murray is a better overall player. When he gets a couple trip Dub this year I'm gonna bump this thread to the top.
 
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ZaytovenCat said:
Much like another fellow freshmen and this team in general, Murray is very overrated. Outside of an exhibition game and 1-2 regular games he's shot like crap and he's turned into a turnover waiting to happen. At this point he's playing identical to how Goodwin played here.

Where's are those posters from earlier this year who said it was too early to worry about anything and that everything would be fine?

At this point I'm more looking forward to 2017 than April 2016 because we are a S16 team at best right now.
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Kyle Tucker ‏@KyleTucker_CJ Dec 12
Jamal Murray first player in UK history to make a 3-pointer in each of his first 10 games. Awful percentage, but that's something.
 
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ZaytovenCat said:
Much like another fellow freshmen and this team in general, Murray is very overrated. Outside of an exhibition game and 1-2 regular games he's shot like crap and he's turned into a turnover waiting to happen. At this point he's playing identical to how Goodwin played here.

Where's are those posters from earlier this year who said it was too early to worry about anything and that everything would be fine?

At this point I'm more looking forward to 2017 than April 2016 because we are a S16 team at best right now.
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Not to bash Archie, but you needed a 45 caliber pistol to get Archie to pass the ball, plus Murray is technically a senior in high school at this point in his career. The only fault I see in Murray is at times he drops his head going into the lane.
 
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It is always the players. If the players play well it is because of a great coach. If the players perform poorly, it is always because of overrated players. Maybe it is as simple as a player and system mismatch.
 
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And? Archie would get really hot at times also. Doesn't make up for the fact that he played like horse ish for the first half and for most of the year. One half doesn't make up for all the poor shots and turnovers he's had.

Now if he would play smart and more like what he did in the second half today then I would change my opinion but it has to be proven more than once.
 
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ZaytovenCat said:
And? Archie would get really hot at times also. Doesn't make up for the fact that he played like horse ish for the first half and for most of the year. One half doesn't make up for all the poor shots and turnovers he's had.

Now if he would play smart and more like what he did in the second half today then I would change my opinion but it has to be proven more than once.
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Your opinion is always pathetically negative, good call with this thread and even better trying to make yourself look good bringing it back while Murray makes you look silly.
 
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ZaytovenCat said:
Much like another fellow freshmen and this team in general, Murray is very overrated. Outside of an exhibition game and 1-2 regular games he's shot like crap and he's turned into a turnover waiting to happen. At this point he's playing identical to how Goodwin played here.

Where's are those posters from earlier this year who said it was too early to worry about anything and that everything would be fine?

At this point I'm more looking forward to 2017 than April 2016 because we are a S16 team at best right now.
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Hahaha!

That is all.
 
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ZaytovenCat said:
And? Archie would get really hot at times also. Doesn't make up for the fact that he played like horse ish for the first half and for most of the year. One half doesn't make up for all the poor shots and turnovers he's had.

Now if he would play smart and more like what he did in the second half today then I would change my opinion but it has to be proven more than once.
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That's what you call blithering.
 
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Making a negative thread about what a freshman will be before you have even gotten to conference play?
Wow..
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He is not better than Wall, and I don't think he's better than Knight right now either. 33 points or not.
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Knight and Wall supporting cast was a little better than Murray's. A lot better actually. we have zero inside presence. Murray will have to carry us if we stand a chance at the Turdbirds. Cal, why no zone?
 
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Goodwin after one season
14.1 ppg (good)
26.5% 3-point shooting (awful)
63.6% FT shooting (poor)
88 assists/101 TOs (poor)

Murray after 11 games
17.1 ppg (very good)
39.1% 3-point shooting (excellent)
77.8% FT shooting (very good-excellent)
32 assists/33 TOs (fair)

Knight After One Season
17.2 ppg (very good)
37.6% 3-point shooting (excellent)
79.53% FT shooting (very good-excellent)
159 assists/120 TOs (very good-excellent)
 
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