Environmental Catastrophe in Ohio
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oh good acid rain....im sure mayor pete will get right on it, hes been busy dealing with racist roads
And what role should the Republican governor of Ohio play in this scenario? What a low-brow reflexive response to blame Pete for not saying something to satisfy you.... though we know that no matter what he said, you'd still share your angry white male grievance.
little sensi this morning tho eh? calm your tits you fat girl. its only the monday open cant go and crack the shts over the first joke about the biden admin circus. they have almost 5 full days to prove unaccountable and incompetent, there's gonna be a few more.
You should learn how to tag somebody and explain your reasoning for why I'm worse than you. What makes you superior to me?
Seems like something that a bipartisan Congress should be taking steps to prevent from ever happening again. Glad our politicians are focused on solving real issues like this instead of using it as an opportunity to rail against the Republican governor or the Democrat president.
Mayor Pete sucks but if he attempted to make a regulation to prevent this in the future, it would be tied up in court for years. Congress could fix it but will use it as a talking point instead. Sadly, most political observers will do the same. As someone who lives near a number of rail lines running to a major east coast port, I am genuinely terrified of the lack of regulation of our rail system.
little weird theres reports of dead fish and cattle over 100 miles from the site, the visuals are terrifying, yet theres not even local news covering it in the area. actually took a look at cnn msnbc and fox just now...not a word about it on their front pages. all covering the war on balloons. well msnbc had something about trump because i think his name is just locked in their headline text box - hes all they have. white house dgaf about the incident or the people there thats for sure. really hope fraggle rock is asked about it, shes always good for a laugh. the global warming loons are seemingly unconcerned by the air, land, and water being polluted. buttplug is out enjoying his 4 year paid vacation somewhere.
this admin is like a child that spills something all over but is afraid of getting in trouble...so they just dont mention it until someone notices and then starts throwing out every excuse under the sun for why it wasnt their fault and why they never said anything. you couldnt make it up, theyre unintentionally hilarious to see in action. tis unfortunate theyre also a wrecking ball to the country tho
this admin is like a child that spills something all over but is afraid of getting in trouble...so they just dont mention it until someone notices and then starts throwing out every excuse under the sun for why it wasnt their fault and why they never said anything. you couldnt make it up, theyre unintentionally hilarious to see in action. tis unfortunate theyre also a wrecking ball to the country tho
Yeah...you obvious didn't listen to mayor Pete's press conference that not only didn't discuss this, it was about white construction worker taking jobs from people of color. Great job Pete.
why not replace the white transportation secretary, the white president, the white chief of staff, or the mountain of white swivel chair generals and pentagon officials? little better paying than construction work, plus those jobs have absolutely no productivity expectations or require any actual ability. seems like a better deal
Honest question... Do you just make this stuff up? The CNN and Fox stories are from today... MSNBC is from several days ago, so fair enough there I gues.
After a train derailment, Ohio residents are living the plot of a movie they helped make | CNN
When Ben Ratner's family signed up in 2021 to be extras in the movie "White Noise," they thought it would be a fun distraction from their day-to-day life in blue-collar East Palestine, Ohio.
www.cnn.com
Worth reading:
www.levernews.com
Rail Companies Blocked Safety Rules Before Ohio Derailment
Norfolk Southern helped convince government officials to repeal brake rules — and corporate lobbyists watered down hazmat safety regs.
www.levernews.com
Honest question... Do you just make this stuff up? The CNN and Fox stories are from today... MSNBC is from several days ago, so fair enough there I gues.
After a train derailment, Ohio residents are living the plot of a movie they helped make | CNN
When Ben Ratner's family signed up in 2021 to be extras in the movie "White Noise," they thought it would be a fun distraction from their day-to-day life in blue-collar East Palestine, Ohio.
honest answer...wasnt on the front pages when i looked. if its not prominently displayed thats a problem, glad theres AN article you could dig up somewhere on their site. not really the point tho
YepWorth reading:
Rail Companies Blocked Safety Rules Before Ohio Derailment
Norfolk Southern helped convince government officials to repeal brake rules — and corporate lobbyists watered down hazmat safety regs.
Worth reading:
Rail Companies Blocked Safety Rules Before Ohio Derailment
Norfolk Southern helped convince government officials to repeal brake rules — and corporate lobbyists watered down hazmat safety regs.
dont need more rules, need actual accountability in the world for everyone.
train derails? whole c suite, heads of safety, train crew, anyone who signed off on it being safe for travel, regulators - all looking at fpmita prison time should the accident be through negligent actions or substandard mechanics.
apply this to every industry and government position. no more protecting congress from insider trading laws, libel, obamacare, or vaccines either. if you can force it on others its good enough for you. hell hold parents accountable for the people bring into society. if people were held accountable for things they assume theoretical responsibility of, but are never held liable for failures, why would they ever give a sht about they way their company does business?
Here we go… it’s all Trump’s fault. How did Hollywood know this was going to happen? Hmm
Oh hell yeah, if you're going to turn this thread into a white MAGA grievance-fest against the Secretary of Transportation, who did not derail the train, or light the chemicals on fire, we will rightly pass the blame around.
Like clockwork, Republicans **** **** up by deregulating a crapload of regulations that keep our air, soil and water safe and then when the **** hits the fan, it's the Democrats fault - somehow. Then when we want to put the regulations back in place, your side screams like bitches and remove them again when they get back into power - to placate their corporate overlords of course.
Meanwhile, the new MAGA Senator for Ohio, JD Vance, spent the last ten days going on FoxNews to own the libs and doesn't mention the accident until today, because attacking the other side over fantastical lies is much more important than the citizens of his state. This board knows this scheme well.
FYI, they determined that draining the chemicals from the train cars into pits and lighting them on fire was the best option to prevent a catastrophic explosion. You're mad at Pete for what? What is he supposed to do about the decision made by people who are more intimately involved? I see that all the board MAGAs understand the issue intimately, so maybe you should share your expertise with Pete directly?
You will see that I did not say a word about Buttagay at all. I am upset over this for the true environmental disaster that it is and am very dismayed that the news is not reporting on it which I guess points the finger at deep state control of all msm.
WTF?? Between this and all the food processing plants burning down in the last 12 months it almost looks like its something being done purposefully.
Train derailments happen all the time, it's just rarely reported on. If they wrote an article about every train derailment that occurred we'd be seeing multiple articles per day in the news - just in the US.
Your original post has a tweet that seeks to blame Pete for something that is not his responsibility and then the others piled on, so yes you did bring him into it. But in the past, whenever we had a transportation related incident, I don't remember you coming on here and screaming "Where is Coco Chow?"
The news is reporting on it because I've seen stories about it everywhere I look so maybe it's YOUR sources?? Interesting also that you're now an environmentalist LOL. How convenient of you to convert when you think you can blame a disaster on a democrat.
Nope. That just happened to be the tweet that reported the issue and I did not put it here with the idea to blast butt a gay...LOL!! He has plenty of lube I am sure and can handle the intrusion!
Come on Man!!
That area of Ohio is full of working class whites. No time for them. They don't rank high enough in the intersectional victimhood pecking order. Same thing happens when there is a mass shooting involving a black man pulling the trigger. It doesn't fit the narrative. There maybe some coverage but won't get near the coverage if it happened to an area populated by folks higher on the victimhood ladder. Playbook is too predictable.
Please show me where there have been larger scale chemical spills that require us to burn off dangerous toxins without any real understanding of what it might do the atmosphere and the environment around the area where many hundreds of thousands of people live, if not more. This is a ridiculous situation that has been handled ridiculously. And doing so it is expose people to potentially dangerous fumes without any real understanding of what the possible consequences could be. I say this keeping in mind that in addition to the federal government the governor of Ohio is helping manage this problem and he is a Republican. This is a non-partisan matter related to the overwhelming and competence of our government officials these days.
Dismissing it is just another train derailment is ridiculous. I'm sure you know that but it doesn't suit your agenda so you'll gloss over that fact I suppose. It's very possible due to your callousness over this issue that you're ESG rating could be dropped and therefore you will be no longer able to work in the United States.
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Buttagay now being bent over by others in his own community.....not literally. LOL!!
Pot-hole Pete is too worried about the skin color of construction worker's.
I didn't say any of that? I said train derailments happen all the time, since Growls posted an article listing 2 more recent ones (one of which was where a driver tried to beat a train across a railstop) and made a comment about how it all may be happening on purpose.
I'm not an environmental engineer and I'm not privy to the Ohio EPA and US EPA rules and regulations regarding how to handle vinyl chloride contamination. I do know that NS made a judgement call after consulting the Ohio EPA as well as their legal team for how to best prevent contamination. Will this end up being the correct call? I don't know, because apparently there isn't much data on long term effects when vinyl chloride is burned and inhaled/exposed to people.
edit: I do know that they set the material on fire because they thought this would be the best way to prevent the Ohio River from being contaminated. Source: my good friend from Clemson is on the team managing the clean up
Ok. Even this matter is politicized. Not saying by you though in this case. I read someone last night postulating these kind of derailments didn't happen when Trump was president. It's just so ridiculous because the president doesn't have anything to do with derailments on the railroads. Of course in this thread someone else tried to blame deregulation for these derailments which I also think is ridiculous. Is the old saying go to s*** happens.
I do look to our leadership for the response to these problems though. What people were saying about the response within our leadership structure was not comforting and made the whole thing seem very ridiculous. Hopefully it all ends up being ok. There's enough suffering right now and we don't need to add more.
Train derailments happen ALL the time - something like 1800 occur every year in the US. This specific derailment is a huge issue because 1. the material being transported was hazardous, but wasn't labeled or manifested as hazardous by NS, and 2. it occurred in an area alongside a major US waterway which could completely decimate the local ecosystem.
I have less issue with who's in office, and more issue with the big lobbying arm of major corporations owning all the politicians in office. This article https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/ does a good job explaining how they've been able to skirt around improving safety measures in order to keep costs down.
You had me at lobbying. My primary concern always in these things is that we have so little competence anywhere in the process. Like so many things we try to make a partisan matter, this isn't partisan. Too many government employees who don't know what they are doing. Too many people trying to shake things up to show why they were elected. Consistent and meaningful regulation coupled with consistently applied policies and standards would solve a lot of problems. We do have an incompetent government right now. I can understand if people think it's no worse than the last but we need to elect competent people and we need to purge the employment roles of permanent government positions. Truly, we need a dramatic restructuring of how we do things as a nation and that includes reorganization of all our departments combined with getting rid of people who are part of a lobby working at the upper crust of these agencies.